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MrAnswerSeeker
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PNW psilocybe
#26395563 - 12/22/19 12:34 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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These weren't obviously azures or cyans, are they allenii? Wasn't sure but they feel special 
Habitat: Where does it grow? Northwest Oregon near coast. Woody debris covered hillside near sandy dune habitat. Unsure of what kind of wood it's growing from.
Gills: Tan/brown gills, not (or barely?) attached
Stem: 1"-2" long, 4-8mm diameter, thick, tan/white/blue with white collarish thing towards the cap? Doesn't seem like a veil, more of a odd growth/bend point? idfk, maybs it's a veil?
Cap: 1"-1.5" diameter, caramel colored when found, darkened after spore printing while also showing hygrophanous highlights. conical.
Spore print color: blackish, with maybe some purple tones
Bruising: Bruised blue on the stems, on the edges of caps.
Other information: Smells like mushrooms!
First day I found them. Left em, marked with a pile of sticks. Came back 2 days later. We basically the same. Came back 2 days after that.

Harvested 4 days after finding.
Took a couple mushrooms and colonized sticks and put them in a their own patch nearby but less out in the open. Gonna go back and see if the myc is jumping yet soon!

Close up shots.
Butts are a jumpin! (the small bits are minced brown paper bag, if anyone is curious)

Spore Prints:
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Very intersting! Nice find. I'm not sure what they are, my wild guess would be ovoids. I don't think these are allenii. I'm curious to see what others will say.
Nice job with the butts!
Edited by ZenZone (12/22/19 02:25 PM)
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Doc9151
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I'm not sure what you have but they are Psilocybe.
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Re: PNW psilocybe [Re: Doc9151]
#26395684 - 12/22/19 02:11 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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those look rad. I've never seen anything with veils like that before..
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Re: PNW psilocybe [Re: dnkronic]
#26395732 - 12/22/19 02:42 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Send photos of these to Allen. He might be very interested. Look kind of like my allenii but just a bit different...
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Those are some gnarly looking Psilocybes.
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BearaBeans
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Looks like some cross between an Ovoid and an Allenii. If I had to take a guess I would say they are just some beefy odd Allenii. Either way cool find!
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pyrolight
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Looks like psilocybe ovoideocystidiata. First time they’ve been found in a natural setting on the west coast as far as I know.
Really cool find! Post to mushroom observer.
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Doc9151
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Ps. allenii is where I'm leaning but a little more growing time would help maybe.
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pyrolight
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Quote:
BearaBeans said: Looks like some cross between an Ovoid and an Allenii. If I had to take a guess I would say they are just some beefy odd Allenii. Either way cool find!
Definitely not P. allenii; these have a pronounced annulus.
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Doc9151
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I haven't ever seen or handled Psilocybe baeocystis, could that be them by chance? Just throwing it out there.
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Re: PNW psilocybe [Re: Doc9151]
#26395863 - 12/22/19 03:49 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Doc9151 said: I haven't ever seen or handled Psilocybe baeocystis, could that be them by chance? Just throwing it out there.
Definitely not, nothing but P. ovoideocystidiata matches this morphology (at least none of the other species documented in the PNW)
Edit: sorry, I just read this over and I feel like I sound like an asshole. All I mean is that P. baeocystis seems very unlikely to me.
Edited by pyrolight (12/22/19 03:51 PM)
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Doc9151
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Quote:
pyrolight said:
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Doc9151 said: I haven't ever seen or handled Psilocybe baeocystis, could that be them by chance? Just throwing it out there.
Definitely not, nothing but P. ovoideocystidiata matches this morphology (at least none of the other species documented in the PNW)
Edit: sorry, I just read this over and I feel like I sound like an asshole. All I mean is that P. baeocystis seems very unlikely to me.
It's all good, appreciate you trying to be more courteous and I didn't think it would be a match, curious as to how it smells?
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Re: PNW psilocybe [Re: Doc9151]
#26395897 - 12/22/19 04:17 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Doc9151 said: I haven't ever seen or handled Psilocybe baeocystis, could that be them by chance? Just throwing it out there.
Baeocystis tend to be much darker and more fragile than these look IME.
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breeg89
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ovoid was my first thought too
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Doc9151
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Re: PNW psilocybe [Re: breeg89]
#26395997 - 12/22/19 05:18 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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If they are indeed Ps.ovoidiocystidiata I suggest you get a hell of a lot more woodchips for the flower pots, they will rip through that in no time. I put some in a a 50 gal pot in November and by June they had eaten everything, literally a 2" thick hollow mess. The entire center was gone and a 2" thick mycelial ceiling and walls is all that was left, never got the 1st fruit.
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Re: PNW psilocybe [Re: breeg89]
#26396014 - 12/22/19 05:29 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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breeg89 said: ovoid was my first thought too
My thought too. Looking through all the finds posted on MO they appear to be a species with a very variable morphology. I guess weather conditions - among other things - have quite some impact on their shape and size. But these should be posted on MO to get further opinions.
Nice find!
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They look yum. Cool find.
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Re: PNW psilocybe [Re: Stosch]
#26396535 - 12/22/19 11:07 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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The cap color is all wrong for ovoids imo. I think they might just weather beaten azurescens. The "annulus" might just be the stem growing weird from something falling on it, getting stepped on, etc. Knowing what they smelled like would help a lot. They could be ovoids though, the caps are weirdly shaped. Azurescens tend to be pretty evenly rounded.
Edited by Sk8nshram (12/22/19 11:11 PM)
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Quote:
Sk8nshram said: The cap color is all wrong for ovoids imo. I think they might just weather beaten azurescens. The "annulus" might just be the stem growing weird from something falling on it, getting stepped on, etc. Knowing what they smelled like would help a lot. They could be ovoids though, the caps are weirdly shaped. Azurescens tend to be pretty evenly rounded.

Looking at it closer the stems look more like azzie stems to me! Also were the stems hollow?
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