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InvisibleInflaton
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First time DMT for 7 people * 6
    #26395975 - 12/22/19 05:04 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I'm visiting my hometown this week. Was in a friend's place this morning and we did a DMT extraction from MHRB. Got nice white cristals on the first pull, this is after only 20 min in the freezer, and 15 min blowing with an air dryer



In the afternoon I picked up my cousin and went back to my friend's. None of them had ever done DMT or other psychedelics, but I convinced them they should try this. My cousin called over a friend and my friend called four of his friends I didnt know. So we were 8 people in total including me, and 5 of which didnt even know what DMT was when they showed up, they had never heard of it nor done any psychedelic before. I was the only one with any experience so I started with a test dose of 25mg. Then everyone did 25mg. Reaction was pretty unanimous, everyone liked it but everyone thought that's too little and wanted to see more. So we did a second round with a breakthrough dose, and dosages ranged from 50mg to 75mg more or less proportional to body weight, we were 7 male one female.

Well, to my surprise absolutely everyone was mindblown in a very positive way, everbody totally loved it. We'd all take our doses in a room with some nice ambient music and lights, one person would hold the vape as the tripper would lie in bed and when the DMT run out the vape holder would leave the tripper alone. A couple of holdouts, seeing the reaction of the others that did it, decided to jump in and try it too. Everyone came out of the room with a big grin, and saying things like "I just cant believe this, I have no words". We finished all 700mg we extracted today in 16 trips. Everyone said they will extract themselves and do it again.

Looks like from today there are 7 more psychonauts in the world lol.


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Re: First time DMT for 7 people [Re: Inflaton] * 1
    #26395994 - 12/22/19 05:16 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Good luck to you-- let's see if you get arrested for being that guy that gave out illegal psychedelics to a bunch of complete strangers.


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Re: First time DMT for 7 people [Re: coAsTal] * 1
    #26396102 - 12/22/19 06:21 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

As usual, my opinion is more or less aligned with that of CoAsTal.  DMT is no toy, and as far as I'm concerned it's on par with a sacrament.  People will talk (especially new initiates), and their talk will have consequences.  I'd be VERY careful and circumspect going forward with regard to being publicly associated with providing patently illegal (Schedule 1 - VERY illegal) drugs to near strangers.  If law enforcement should happen to show up at your door, they'll charge you not only with possession, but illegal manufacturing and a host of charges relating to administering the drug to others.

I can't think of a faster way to get arrested.  :facepalm:  My hard and fast rule has NEVER been violated - "Never give, sell or assist any individual with manufacturing or taking ANY illegal substance - PERIOD."  That one rule has kept me from coming to the attention of law enforcement for 50 years.  Yeah, you read right.  FIFTY years.


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Re: First time DMT for 7 people [Re: Nature Boy]
    #26396680 - 12/23/19 01:57 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yall are crazy. Weed is schedule 1, too. There's OPSEC and common sense to guide most people clear of the law. You introduce some risks by sharing with other people, but it's not like heroin or meth. That's literally all the police care about in my city. If they hear gossip about psychedelics, that's very low priority. Think about how many people buy or sell acid, that can't be grown in a root and extracted by ourselves. The amount of people getting in trouble for it is like... less than .001% Obviously the risk is worth it to a lot of people or we wouldn't have entire forums about social psych use.

Nature Boy I think you just don't go out to the clubs or festivals to see how casually these substances are slung left and right these days. No one's OD'ing on freebase DMT so I think it's very safe to deal.


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Re: First time DMT for 7 people [Re: Icon]
    #26396706 - 12/23/19 02:30 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

As a matter of fact the legal risk to me was basically none. It was not my place, it was not my DMT. Even in the impossible and absurd circustamce that the police would have arrived with a court ordered search warrant (it was not in the US and the police cant break into a house only on suspicions) I could not have been charged for simply for being in a house where there is some DMT. This was in Spain and this is the legal status of DMT in Spain:

Sale to the public is prohibited due to its toxicity. Use and marketing is restricted to the manufacture of pharmaceutical specialities, master formulas, officinal preparations, homeopathic strains and research.


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Re: First time DMT for 7 people [Re: Inflaton]
    #26396707 - 12/23/19 02:31 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

And I guarantee you these people are going to talk, and spread the use of DMT big time around here :lol:


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Re: First time DMT for 7 people [Re: Inflaton]
    #26397152 - 12/23/19 10:30 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Inflaton said:
And I guarantee you these people are going to talk, and spread the use of DMT big time around here :lol:




That's what you maybe should be concerned about-- if each person talks to just one other person about it, you're quickly dealing with a couple dozen people that you have no idea about-- it's dangerous and risky to assume any or all of those people are on your page-- that no parents, zealots, or co-workers, or others wouldn't pounce on the chance to screw someone.

I wish you all the best, but that decision is not one most of us would endorse as responsible-- I'm saying this to you as a friend and to others that read this thread that might consider giving these things out to large groups of strangers.

There are huge numbers of people that thought they knew better that now have criminal records and lives that are wrecked because the complete strangers they assumed would be cool turned on them to save their own ass-- you have to keep that circle closed with people you know.

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Re: First time DMT for 7 people [Re: Inflaton]
    #26397571 - 12/23/19 02:03 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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......they had never heard of it nor done any psychedelic before. I was the only one with any experience so I started with a test dose of 25mg. Then everyone did 25mg. Reaction was pretty unanimous, everyone liked it but everyone thought that's too little and wanted to see more. So we did a second round with a breakthrough dose, and dosages ranged from 50mg to 75mg more or less proportional to body weight, we were 7 male one female.







They were all totally new to psychedelics and all of them thought 25mg was too little?...None of them were rattled or feeling a bit anxious from the initial intensity?

That is super surprising. I wouldn't think people with no experience with psychedelics would consider 25mg to be mild lol.

I don't consider 25mg to be a light dose at all, if vaped right that's enough to have me very far "out there" and I've actually had a "breakthrough" from doses around 25mg.



50mg to 75mg is quite a large dose...That's more than plenty to have me separated from my body & physical surroundings....What were some of the specific experiences that some of them had? Considering they were all new to psychedelics and taking large doses of DMT I can imagine some of them had to of had some pretty profound & mind-blowing experiences.

At least one of those people had to of been talking about some of the crazy shit they experienced lol.

No one was "rattled" or frightened at all? No one was caught off guard at how intense it is?





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Re: First time DMT for 7 people [Re: openmind] * 1
    #26397821 - 12/23/19 04:03 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, 25mg of properly extracted DMT has me tripping balls for a good 7 minutes.  It's another 10 minutes for the gradual return to baseline.  I can't imagine NOT being impressed with a 25 mg dose!


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Re: First time DMT for 7 people [Re: openmind] * 1
    #26398946 - 12/24/19 10:02 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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openmind said:
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Inflaton said:
......they had never heard of it nor done any psychedelic before. I was the only one with any experience so I started with a test dose of 25mg. Then everyone did 25mg. Reaction was pretty unanimous, everyone liked it but everyone thought that's too little and wanted to see more. So we did a second round with a breakthrough dose, and dosages ranged from 50mg to 75mg more or less proportional to body weight, we were 7 male one female.







They were all totally new to psychedelics and all of them thought 25mg was too little?...None of them were rattled or feeling a bit anxious from the initial intensity?

That is super surprising. I wouldn't think people with no experience with psychedelics would consider 25mg to be mild lol.

I don't consider 25mg to be a light dose at all, if vaped right that's enough to have me very far "out there" and I've actually had a "breakthrough" from doses around 25mg.

50mg to 75mg is quite a large dose...That's more than plenty to have me separated from my body & physical surroundings....What were some of the specific experiences that some of them had? Considering they were all new to psychedelics and taking large doses of DMT I can imagine some of them had to of had some pretty profound & mind-blowing experiences.

At least one of those people had to of been talking about some of the crazy shit they experienced lol.

No one was "rattled" or frightened at all? No one was caught off guard at how intense it is?

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Yes I was surprised of the homogeneous strongly positive reaction of everyone. We vaped 700mg in 16 trips. 8 of 25mg, and the second works out at 62mg average. Basically all that stuff of the pic above. But I must say they all were experienced drug users (everyone is a regular marijuana user and experienced with mdma, amphetamine, cocaine). Just never psychedelics.

The experiences were strong indeed. My cousin for instance was left speechless. When he came out and we asked how it was, he said... amazing. And asked for more detail he said: wait... I have no words. Was silent for maybe 5 or 10 min. And then he described his trip. He said he went through a tube and delivered in a huge space full of people. He stressed many times how big the place was and the inimaginable amount of people that was there. All packed really tight. He said he started travelling through the people, who were touching him. His arms didt let him advance so he tried to get into an aerodynamic shape and he the friction with all the other bodies was making some shhhushh sound. And the end he was lifted in front of a huge figure, didnt know if it was a real giant or a statue, who had three really bright rays coming out of his forehead (yellow, red, green). The rays became spirals and he went through them. Landed on a sort of corridor full of doors, what opened themselves suggesting you to go through. But if you tried to cross them, they'd shut close. You could only go through those you didnt look at. He also said he saw many colors that disnt exist :lol: and things he didnt know how to describe. His was probably the most colorful. Me myself have never had a trip like that and have taken up to 80mg :shrug: But funny because the corridor and the doors I have seen few times.

My friend has done one more extraction again today and wants to do changa. He thanked me for showing this to him and sent me a text saying "I love you man". He also said that he didnt smoke any weed yesterday, for the first time in years. :shrug:


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