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Re: Australia is burning down... [Re: dreamachine]
    #26397739 - 12/23/19 03:24 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't know about yall, but I'm pro-global warming...



Humans are due and in need of a massive disruption of standard operating procedure. imo




global warming isn't going to provide a massive disruption tho
it's just going to be a slow, tedious adaptation to new norms

it may force some more wars tho

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Re: Australia is burning down... [Re: koods]
    #26397743 - 12/23/19 03:27 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

We got thousands of frogs and toads here in the jungle of hawaii. Was a trip when we first moved here hearing them at night.



Imagine listening to that every night. At first it was kind of hard to fall asleep to, but now it's like white noise and i dig it. I still have yet to trip at night when they're all singing; i imagine its going to be a gnarly experience.


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Re: Australia is burning down... [Re: Patlal]
    #26397747 - 12/23/19 03:30 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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The bushfires are out of control.  A town has been razed (or more).

It seems that no matter how we try to save the environment, the environment turns on us because of what we did to the environment.

Auustralia is importing fire fighters from other countries...

On the flip side, many dangerous spiders have been burnt.  So there's that...




What did the dinosaurs do to be punished by mass extinction?

We just have more media coverage of those events. The environment doesn't have feelings.


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Re: Australia is burning down... [Re: dreamachine]
    #26397748 - 12/23/19 03:30 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Australia is burning down... [Re: koods]
    #26397751 - 12/23/19 03:31 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Where you live?


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Re: Australia is burning down... [Re: dreamachine]
    #26397754 - 12/23/19 03:33 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Maryland about 5 miles from DC


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Re: Australia is burning down... [Re: koods]
    #26397764 - 12/23/19 03:40 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

You ever trip and just listen to them at night?


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Re: Australia is burning down... [Re: Tantrika]
    #26397772 - 12/23/19 03:43 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Tantrika said:
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dreamachine said:
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dreamachine said:
I don't know about yall, but I'm pro-global warming...



Humans are due and in need of a massive disruption of standard operating procedure. imo




global warming isn't going to provide a massive disruption tho
it's just going to be a slow, tedious adaptation to new norms

it may force some more wars tho




1st world perspectives.:elmo:
Just turn up the air conditioning.
And make sure the wars are over there.


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Re: Australia is burning down... [Re: koods] * 2
    #26397773 - 12/23/19 03:43 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I built a little pond in my backyard, and they started fucking in it and now every summer there are frogs crawling all over the house. They really like hanging out inside the rings of the aluminum ladder



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Re: Australia is burning down... [Re: koods]
    #26397778 - 12/23/19 03:46 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

You should change your avatar to this one 

lol

but yo have you tripped and listened to them? something tells me the closed eye visuals would be mad trippy along with the sound.


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Re: Australia is burning down... [Re: pineninja] * 1
    #26397837 - 12/23/19 04:08 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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pineninja said:
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Tantrika said:
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dreamachine said:
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dreamachine said:
I don't know about yall, but I'm pro-global warming...



Humans are due and in need of a massive disruption of standard operating procedure. imo




global warming isn't going to provide a massive disruption tho
it's just going to be a slow, tedious adaptation to new norms

it may force some more wars tho




1st world perspectives.:elmo:
Just turn up the air conditioning.
And make sure the wars are over there.




There are traditional communities suffering in my country as well (Canada)
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Canada, overall, is warming at twice as fast as the rest of the world on average, according to Canada’s Changing Climate Report, with the country’s average annual temperature having risen 1.7 C between 1948 and 2016. However, the North has been warming faster than the south, with the territories seeing a 2.3 C increase — three times the global average — during that time frame.



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The report links the warmer climate to increased fire activity, lakes and rivers freezing later and breaking up earlier, earlier peak spring streamflows due to earlier snowmelts, and an increase in permafrost temperature.

(In the Old Crow Flats, in particular, thawing permafrost has been linked to the loss of about 3,000 hectares of lake area between 1951 and 2007; as permafrost under lakes melts, the water can suddenly drain into the now-thawed land. The report notes that “catastrophic lake drainages in this region have become more than five times more frequent in recent decades.)



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Canada-wide, precipitation increased by about 20 per cent from 1948 to 2012, the report says, with the North, again, seeing a larger increase compared to the rest of the country (the report says northern Canada is believed to have seen a 32.5 per cent increase, although the confidence in the data is low due to a limited number of monitoring stations).



https://www.yukon-news.com/news/climate-change-affecting-northern-canada-faster-than-rest-of-the-country-report-says/

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For example, decreasing ice could allow increased shipping through Arctic waterways, including the Northwest Passage. While this may mean economic benefits for Nunavut, it can also raise the risk of oil and chemical spills. Increased land-use activities and natural resource development, together with population growth and an expanding economy, mean we must  plan to ensure environmental sustainability in the future.



https://www.climatechangenunavut.ca/en/understanding-climate-change/climate-change-impact

for me (classified as part of the West in this article)
https://globalnews.ca/news/5918981/climate-change-impact-across-canada/
longer growing season for crops, but more risk of drought weather and changes in rain patterns
this could mean that Canada will have to move to (ever technologically improving) vertical indoor or greenhouse farming for crops
but in that case, a loss of farmable land will likely be treated as an opportunity to urbanize new areas and receive larger immigrant influxes either from our own coastal and northern areas or other sinking countries

but even outside the first world, it's not going to be a massive global disruption
even the climate refugees that have to leave uninhabitable lands are going to be a slow continuous trend, rather than all of them collapsing simultaneously

there will be variations where some of the refugee numbers will be absolutely huge
but the system of pulling in refugees is becoming more efficient, whether the existing population wants it or the refugee population is prepared for the adjustments, or not

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Re: Australia is burning down... [Re: Tantrika] * 1
    #26397876 - 12/23/19 04:29 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

The intelligence you rely upon to solve these problems is the same intelligence that brought us here.

Vertical planting and increased shipping sound just excellent though.

If you read the rest of the native people website you will see that they arent apl that positive about what's happening to them.


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Re: Australia is burning down... [Re: dreamachine]
    #26397892 - 12/23/19 04:35 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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You should change your avatar to this one 

lol

but yo have you tripped and listened to them? something tells me the closed eye visuals would be mad trippy along with the sound.




A year and a half until the cicadas return. This was 2004. It would be a challenging trip.



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Re: Australia is burning down... [Re: pineninja]
    #26397899 - 12/23/19 04:40 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Tantrika said:
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There are traditional communities suffering in my country as well (Canada)
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If you read the rest of the native people website you will see that they arent apl that positive about what's happening to them.




mhm

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pineninja said:
The intelligence you rely upon to solve these problems is the same intelligence that brought us here.

Vertical planting and increased shipping sound just excellent though.
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Yeah, and my statement was that we are just going to have more slow changes to the status quo

do you feel world governments are going to start revolutionary programs and stop climate change?

The natural world as remembered from my childhood is already vanishing,
it is nice to know there are programs like the youtubers who got together to fundraise to plant 20 million trees


Would really love if the story of Earth could be one where we live in harmony with Nature, and develop terraforming technologies we could use to green the rest of our Solar System
but, realistically, we are moving towards a barren earth with less biodiversity where we live in climate controlled bubbles
as we tweak those technologies so we can use them on the already dead planet of Mars

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Re: Australia is burning down... [Re: koods]
    #26397928 - 12/23/19 04:55 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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koods said:
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dreamachine said:
You should change your avatar to this one 

lol

but yo have you tripped and listened to them? something tells me the closed eye visuals would be mad trippy along with the sound.




A year and a half until the cicadas return. This was 2004. It would be a challenging trip.





lmao; is that you filming? that would be a gnarly trip for sure, not sure i could handle it being outside having cicadas crawl all over me... lmao; shame we dont get cicadas or lightning bugs here in hawaii, i should try and smuggle them in maybe... lol

though i do plan to trip to the coqi frogs soon; that should be trippy


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Re: Australia is burning down... [Re: koods]
    #26397948 - 12/23/19 05:11 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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The recent report that methane climate positive feedback in the artic has begun is dire. The top ten hottest years on record have all been in the past twenty years. Greenland’s ice melt this summer added a half inch to sea levels. What exactly do doubters doubt?




Doubt itself.


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Re: Australia is burning down... [Re: Patlal]
    #26398034 - 12/23/19 05:56 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

"Would really love if the story of Earth could be one where we live in harmony with Nature, and develop terraforming technologies we could use to green the rest of our Solar System
but, realistically, we are moving towards a barren earth with less biodiversity where we live in climate controlled bubbles
as we tweak those technologies so we can use them on the already dead planet of Mars"

This slightly contradicts this.

"global warming isn't going to provide a massive disruption tho
it's just going to be a slow, tedious adaptation to new norms

it may force some more wars tho"

You must excuse my confusion.


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Re: Australia is burning down... [Re: pineninja]
    #26398064 - 12/23/19 06:12 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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pineninja said:
"Would really love if the story of Earth could be one where we live in harmony with Nature, and develop terraforming technologies we could use to green the rest of our Solar System
but, realistically, we are moving towards a barren earth with less biodiversity where we live in climate controlled bubbles
as we tweak those technologies so we can use them on the already dead planet of Mars"

This slightly contradicts this.

"global warming isn't going to provide a massive disruption tho
it's just going to be a slow, tedious adaptation to new norms

it may force some more wars tho"

You must excuse my confusion.




We don't have the technologies yet, we won't have the technologies simultaneously
the implementation will be slow; it's going to be happening over decades
and for people already living their whole lives in cities, not much will change

those of us out in the country will have to adapt more, but it's not going to be stepping into a sci-fi future or anything
rapid urbanization in some areas and depopulation in others will occur first; managing the food and water resources for those areas will be handled as soon as possible
even with rapid global warming, we won't be at a point where we need to be living in bubbles for some time
and we certainly won't be having successful colonization of Mars before we can get the basic technologies working in the friendlier Earth atmosphere

but yeah, similiar to how Australia has the majority of the population on the coast,
and many of the urban and suburban dwellers are now facing the realities of fire that has likely been occuring in more rural/outback areas for 30+ years

Canada has our population along the US border,
and the fire belt is only just recently been getting close enough to more heavily inhabited areas to cause a stir
but despite the burning of Fort Mac a few years back,
little has changed about the oil industry in the area, and people have been moving back in because they want the money working there brings

https://globalnews.ca/news/5234350/fort-mcmurray-wildfire-3-years-later/




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Re: Australia is burning down... [Re: Tantrika]
    #26398166 - 12/23/19 07:36 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

How the hell do they have forest fires that far north? Isn't it cold as shit up there covered in snow most of the year?


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Re: Australia is burning down... [Re: dreamachine]
    #26398203 - 12/23/19 08:00 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Used to be


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