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ID Request Bay Area CA
    #26395856 - 12/22/19 03:47 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

ID request

Location: Wood chip bed in the SF Bay Area.  Took these from the same patch that I posted photos of in the CA thread the other day, but I'm having doubts as I'm not very experienced with woodlovers.

Slight discoloration along the edge of the caps, looks blue to me but stems seem to turn black where cut rather than the distinct blue I’ve seen in other photos.

No visible annulus

Discoloration on stems. Spore drops or bruising?

Spore print is in the works

I’m fairly sure these are cyanescens but I’m worried about galerina.






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Re: ID Request Bay Area CA [Re: shroomhunter222]
    #26395872 - 12/22/19 03:56 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Psilocybe cyanescens


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Re: ID Request Bay Area CA [Re: pyrolight]
    #26395879 - 12/22/19 04:04 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Psilocybe cyanescens





Any idea why they aren't bruising very much?  I picked specimens of all ages and different levels of dryness and there's very little obvious bruising on any of them


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Re: ID Request Bay Area CA [Re: shroomhunter222]
    #26395966 - 12/22/19 04:58 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It happens with some cyans.  I had a patch that didn’t bruise at all, but they were still potent


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Re: ID Request Bay Area CA [Re: shroomhunter222]
    #26395984 - 12/22/19 05:10 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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pyrolight said:
Psilocybe cyanescens





Any idea why they aren't bruising very much?




According to a recently published study, the bluing occurs due to an enzyme, so possibly there is
a variation in amounts of this particular enzyme which in turn determines the bluing reaction.
Alan posted a link to the study a while ago, and I just scrolled through it so don't take my word
here. I'll try to find the link so you can read for yourself.


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Re: ID Request Bay Area CA [Re: Anglerfish]
    #26396172 - 12/22/19 07:04 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Here's that paper angler is talking about: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/anie.201910175

Another really cool thing about that paper is how they propose that the oligomerized indole products are toxic to insects.


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Re: ID Request Bay Area CA [Re: breeg89]
    #26397233 - 12/23/19 11:18 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I was trying to post that on shroomery news but couldn't figure out how to keep the ad photos out, I always delete something important.

Edit: breeg, I saw that about it being insecticidal but spring tails don't seem to be affected by it, so I wonder if some insects have a natural immunity. I find it exciting that someone is actually studying the different molecules of Psilocybin and it's components, it's about time.


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