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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26395214 - 12/22/19 09:07 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I've experienced, and have known others, personally, that have, psychosis from cannabis use.

That says a lot more to me than any study ever could.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26395223 - 12/22/19 09:17 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Any more details?

Psychosis is a very vague diagnosis.  It means outside the reality that others perceive.  It doesn't mean it's untrue.  Technically, Jesus and Buddha were psychotic.

In fact if that term existed then, they would of used that over trying to kill them.  It's a much more torturous method.

Cannabis is strong stuff, but people can become psychotic from alcohol or SSRI's just as easily.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
    #26395227 - 12/22/19 09:20 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Morel Guy said:
Any more details?



None that I want to take the time to type out. I just think saying that 'Weed psychosis is an overhyped exaggerated semi myth from a not very indepth study' is a dangerous untruth, given the fact that our mission is to be a 'harm reduction' based community.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 2
    #26395243 - 12/22/19 09:34 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Considering the current popular notion that cannabis is a harmless miracle drug and has zero negative effects on mental health, I think it's important to admit there can be negative impacts.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #26395250 - 12/22/19 09:38 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Well if being high is psychosis

They don't even have a good idea what psychosis is.  The only testable theory is the same since the 1950s, that monoamines are elevated.  The only other theory is weaker, that the brains immune system attacks the brain.

There's probably many causes of psychosis.  I do not find eating too much lsd and smoking strong cannabis the same as someones permanent psychosis.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26395256 - 12/22/19 09:42 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Trying to get agreement about psychosis is like trying to define depression. People often claim it's different for everyone.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26395267 - 12/22/19 09:48 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It seems like it's very difficult to separate from cultural values. Spend dozens of hours watching youtube conspiracy videos and blazing weed, and then open up to your friendly health care professional about what's on your mind. If the ideas you devote your time to absorbing are ones that sound crazy in our culture, talking about them will make you sound crazy.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #26395275 - 12/22/19 09:50 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

There are different diagnosis for different psychosis as there are different depression diagnosis.  There's very many estabolished differences.

My statement says that drug induced psychosis is not the same as natural psychosis.  The studies on cannabis psychosis are vastly over played.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: psi] * 1
    #26395280 - 12/22/19 09:53 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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psi said:
It seems like it's very difficult to separate from cultural values. Spend dozens of hours watching youtube conspiracy videos and blazing weed, and then open up to your friendly health care professional about what's on your mind. If the ideas you devote your time to absorbing are ones that sound crazy in our culture, talking about them will make you sound crazy.






I agree.  Psychiatrist like to think very highly of their view.  They are not open to subculture.  It's more about dominance than medicine.  Going to a psychiatrist always feels bad, they are not usually nice people and consistantly under state the side effects of what the prescribe.

If you have an imagination at all, you are psychotic to them.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26395319 - 12/22/19 10:13 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Psychosis is the new hysteria.  Just as hysteria was back in the day, psychosis is today.  Why not?  It's a multibillion dollar market.  Just create new customers with a diagnosis.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
    #26395356 - 12/22/19 10:28 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Cannabis , naturally leads to a perpetual state of stagnation , where procrastination , lack of motivation and poor social skills molds the psyche.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26395362 - 12/22/19 10:30 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Hysteria (often defined in such ways as "ungovernable emotional excess") is now frequently called "panic attack" or mania bipolar. What used to be called torpor is now called depression.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Northerner]
    #26395364 - 12/22/19 10:31 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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If you could turn back time, back to before you got involved with drugs and their hallowed insanities, would you? Would you choose a different path?

I used to think I wouldn't change a thing, but recently I've been wondering if I've been deluding myself my whole life. Been playing silly games and winning silly prizes. Maybe.





As far as using drugs go, no, i wouldn't change all that.  There are a few other things from that same period of time that i would change, though, one or two of them relating to drugs.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Tulipslave] * 1
    #26395396 - 12/22/19 10:44 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Im with jsb. I wouldnt change anything. If I did I would be a COMPLETELY different person today.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #26395472 - 12/22/19 11:41 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Hysteria (often defined in such ways as "ungovernable emotional excess") is now frequently called "panic attack" or mania bipolar. What used to be called torpor is now called depression.





You've obviously never experienced psychosis.  Mania is often psychotic, when it's not, it is hypo-mania.  I would think a panic attack is a form of psychosis, as it is removed from reality and in the realm of imagination.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26395532 - 12/22/19 12:18 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I can see why you would think this was my realization, but it was not. I have always been quick to answer this question with a resounding yes.

Here's the thing - I never said you had to do the literally countless thought experiments. That's not always productive. But just because you didn't do the thought experiment does not mean you can't assume there was at least a dozen things you would redo in the millions to billions of decisions you've made in your life.

I don't also agree just because you would do something different that you automatically regret that.

I am extremely content, that does not equal the same as saying I've never done anything I would redo.

As fo the mistake - I'll think on it. Though I understand you learn, the word literally implies error mis-take. Sure I don't believe I'd redo all the mistakes I've made because I've certainly learned from many - not have I learned from all of them? No


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Northerner]
    #26395555 - 12/22/19 12:30 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Not in a bad way , yes I would change a few things

I'm working on change right now


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: metalfaith]
    #26395594 - 12/22/19 01:00 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I am extremely content, that does not equal the same as saying I've never done anything I would redo.



It just strikes me from what you said earlier that because of a realisation you had, that you now feel it applies (objectively?) to all humans.

I dispute that. For, even though I have lived an incredible life, I'm sure there is much I could have done better... But would I have wanted to though? No, and a resounding one at that. For all the shit and the pain and the hurt, I really wouldn't want to have lived my life any differently. I really like the person that I am.

I'm definitely not the only one that feels that way; even if there aren't many that would stand hand on heart to share that sentiment.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26395654 - 12/22/19 01:50 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Hysteria (often defined in such ways as "ungovernable emotional excess") is now frequently called "panic attack" or mania bipolar. What used to be called torpor is now called depression.





You've obviously never experienced psychosis.  Mania is often psychotic, when it's not, it is hypo-mania.  I would think a panic attack is a form of psychosis, as it is removed from reality and in the realm of imagination.




When I read the definitions of psychosis, I certainly have. I've had serious difficulties determining what is real and what is not. I've also experienced false beliefs and delusions and have also experienced things other people have not.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #26395672 - 12/22/19 02:03 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

No. If I could make my mom/parents make better choices, yes. But, that would have made my choices different, so in thinking about that further, no. Everything has led me here to this point, and I am the most happy and contented I have ever been, ever! I have the best people around me as well. I'm so happy I could die right now and be OK.


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