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murderlabz
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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: cronicr]
#26394794 - 12/21/19 11:16 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said: This has been how it goes though...colonize fine knot up then goes green lol
What if you say fuck it and skip the casing, is the green Ninja hiding in the casing layer?
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murderlabz said:
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cronicr said: This has been how it goes though...colonize fine knot up then goes green lol
What if you say fuck it and skip the casing, is the green Ninja hiding in the casing layer?
Maybe a side by side? I was gunna suggest the same. I say do a half and half.
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I wasn't casing anything prior
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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: cronicr]
#26394828 - 12/22/19 12:06 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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only one explanation, a significant other is sabotaging your work so you spend more time with them...
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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: Ziran]
#26394948 - 12/22/19 03:31 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ziran said: even the greats get mold/bacteria sometimes.



Lmao, may I ask why the greats are still using pf cakes??
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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: murderlabz] 1
#26395153 - 12/22/19 08:25 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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murderlabz said: only one explanation, a significant other is sabotaging your work so you spend more time with them...
Terrible tactic. This will just force on into the closet for even longer trying to fix the setback.
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ShamanBoof said: Lmao, may I ask why the greats are still using pf cakes??
Alright I hope we’re not gonna roast Ziran for posting about mold in a mold thread. Most people only put up photos of their best and cleanest stuff. Besides, Ziran collected and tested a shit ton of info to rewrite the PF tek so that new growers could have a better chance of success
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sporealchemy said:
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ShamanBoof said: Lmao, may I ask why the greats are still using pf cakes??
Alright I hope we’re not gonna roast Ziran for posting about mold in a mold thread. Most people only put up photos of their best and cleanest stuff. Besides, Ziran collected and tested a shit ton of info to rewrite the PF tek so that new growers could have a better chance of success 
Oh shut COP timer in the house! Sorry dude I didn't mean to criticize pf cakes..
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murderlabz
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ShamanBoof said: Lmao, may I ask why the greats are still using pf cakes??
Some of these folks are doing hardcore genetics work. PF tek is a great easy way to test spore germination and fruiting. It takes up little space you can pack them in a tub. If you germ on agar and do myc transfers you might of just isolated out what you was after in the 1st place. PF tek will all ways have it's place.
I commend cronicr for this thread. I think it's important to see failures to learn from. This shows he is comfortable with his vast skill-sets, much respect.
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murderlabz said:
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ShamanBoof said: Lmao, may I ask why the greats are still using pf cakes??
Some of these folks are doing hardcore genetics work. PF tek is a great easy way to test spore germination and fruiting. It takes up little space you can pack them in a tub. If you germ on agar and do myc transfers you might of just isolated out what you was after in the 1st place. PF tek will all ways have it's place.
I commend cronicr for this thread. I think it's important to see failures to learn from. This shows he is comfortable with his vast skill-sets, much respect.
I know, I know.. I've read about the UV thingy. I doubt this the case here. And I shall roast low performance shit wherever I see it.
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Some speculation....
Recently here in my city coco has been on back order where I normally pick it up. And I’m referring to the 5 kilo bricks not the pet shop bricks. They always have a full pallet at the local pet shop. And they have two locations both stores are always stocked with a pallet of 5 kilo bricks
Lately tho they’ve been on backorder for months. Likely causing many pet owners to have to pay double for coco or use a diff material for their pet enclosures. I’m sure many people have been waiting patiently just like me for the last few months at least while we pay more.
So, I go grab some from the hydro shop. He tells me that the coco quality has been going down. To grow herb in coco the EC needs to be low. Omni rated coco has a lower EC FYI. He told me some of the coco they’re getting is coming out at an unacceptably high EC level. Not to mention it’s all being bought up. He didn’t have any in stock that day.
The other store had plenty but I live in a bigger city.
Perhaps the coco is being bought up at a much higher rate with the increase in interest in peat moss alternative and pet used ect. Leading to a lower quality coco that hasn’t aged and been leached for nearly as long???
End speculation.
I think a microscope could help in a situation like this possibly, or make things even more difficult lol
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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: Raven44] 1
#26395622 - 12/22/19 01:25 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I still use cakes because cakes are great lol...most of all I'm not here growing drugs lol, I don't need freezers full of shit I just like to watch mushrooms grow and it keeps me sober I likely just had a bad batch of transfers, it really doesn't take much, open up one dirty plate in your sab n you can easily contaminate a few with a simple stumble.
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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: cronicr]
#26396171 - 12/22/19 07:04 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: Crackatoa]
#26396219 - 12/22/19 07:30 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Aren't PF cakes much more efficient than bulk grows? I mean yea you might not get 1000 fuckimg lbs of caps but a good amount for as much substrate as you put in those little tiny cakes.
Also who was talking about UV light that has nothing to do with using cakes to find the best genetics?
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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: gizmo1]
#26396228 - 12/22/19 07:34 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah of cakes have the best biological efficiency
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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: gizmo1]
#26396240 - 12/22/19 07:42 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Unbeknownst to myself I had decided to start growing trinch instead of mushies a few years ago. I believe I stopped at 20 before I called it quits, 20 green 66 qt tubs. I had had really great success for the longest time and didn't change anything and then all of sudden it was green city. I've been away for several years but some of these new to me teks have me interested. Unmodified tubs with coir only. Before I had modified tubs with 50/50. The jars would look fine and the tubs would always go green right after or towards the end of colonization. This time around I went a well reviewed vendor, and im following different teks to the .000 just like I did when I first started this adventure. I'm hoping for success, I wish I would of read this post 3 years ago, I lost faith in my ability, time to start with a clean slate.
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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: Grefa]
#26396279 - 12/22/19 08:09 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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i have a feeling there are often problems with what people consider "clean spawn"
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murderlabz
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We all know about temps, but cool read any how.
High temperature enhances the ability of Trichoderma asperellum to infect Pleurotus ostreatus mycelia
Results
To observe infection of T. asperellum to high temperature-treated P. ostreatus mycelia, the interaction between T. asperellum and P. ostreatus was investigated by using a dual culture test in the plates. After various temperature treatments, P89 mycelia resisted infection of T11 at different degrees. T11 was able to overgrow and sporulate over P89 mycelia. P89 mycelia grown at 28°C showed stronger resistance to T11 than those treated with 36°C and 40°C. After incubation at 36°C and 40°C, P89 mycelia were almost completely inhibited by T11 mycelia and covered by T11 conidia (Fig 1). By contrast, only a few mycelia on the edge of plates incubated at 28°C were covered by T11 conidia. It indicated that high temperature will reduce resistance of P. ostreatus mycelia to T. asperellum.
  
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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: cronicr] 1
#26396544 - 12/22/19 11:23 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said: Yeah of cakes have the best biological efficiency
I have seen cakes going well over 300% BE on multiple flushes.. I will always keep a bag of brown rice around. I would clone clusters from MS cakes & run my sectors from their in tubs. Seemed to work well & cut my time, space & energy usage to desired genetic traits in master slants.
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