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InvisibleBoomer The Great
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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26397483 - 12/23/19 01:29 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I guess. Existence sucks.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Boomer The Great] * 1
    #26397491 - 12/23/19 01:30 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Sounds like you are just another cog in the machine.



I think the sad fact of the matter is that one becomes a cog in the machine the moment one pops ones head into this world and takes a breath.

Sure we can try and carve our own path, but there are certain facts about this existence, such as the fact that one needs to have money to survive, that are inescapable. There's a certain amount of conformity required, even  for the most die hard nonconformist.

I certainly don't think looking down on someone for being a professional or enjoying their career is fair or reasonable.

Why do you think you show such bitterness when someone tells you of their success?

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Boomer The Great said:
I guess. Existence sucks.



It most certainly does.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Boomer The Great]
    #26397492 - 12/23/19 01:30 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Awww, try to maintain at least, it's the least one can do. I get down too, but then I get down!:grin:


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26397500 - 12/23/19 01:33 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

There's a certain amount of conformity required, even  for the most die hard nonconformist.

Yep, especially to get to a level of comfort within the "system" for ones own well being. It's subjective.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Boomer The Great]
    #26397520 - 12/23/19 01:37 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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That doesn't sound like freedom. Sounds like you are just another cog in the machine.



Money can buy freedom, but most people develop more expensive tastes when they get more money so the effect largely cancels out.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26397523 - 12/23/19 01:38 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Well that post wasn't really specifically directed at his success. I was drunk last night and just got triggered by that word. More so referring to the corporate professionalism. It wasn't a personal attack on him. Sorry it may have come across like that.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Boomer The Great] * 1
    #26397547 - 12/23/19 01:51 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

No I get it man. I feel the same way. What makes it even suckier, at least when standing in my shoes, is that I have become one of those 'corporate professionals'. I've sold my soul to the very heart of the beast. And the longer I stay in it the more I wonder if I'll ever be able to get out.

I'm probably just being a drama queen about the whole thing; this lifestyle affords me some privileges which are very sweet and very hard to turn down, and I kinda got sucked into it without realising, but knowing I turned in to a representation of the thing I hate is a shitty feeling.

Thankfully I like myself, and I know my job does not make me who I am, so at least I've that to fall back on.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #26397549 - 12/23/19 01:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I'm probably just being a drama queen about the whole thing;

Agreed.:nursemaryjane:


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #26397560 - 12/23/19 01:57 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm probably just being a drama queen about the whole thing;




Yeah I feel this way too. I'm just being immature.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Boomer The Great]
    #26397579 - 12/23/19 02:06 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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That doesn't sound like freedom. Sounds like you are just another cog in the machine.




The goal is in fact the exact opposite of that. If you don't take responsibility for your own security in this world you will always be beholden to others.

"A wise man's life is based around fuck you."



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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: HarperLewis] * 1
    #26397591 - 12/23/19 02:12 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah that's true. My bad coming across as a dick. I wasn't trying to belittle your success. 

You guys could probably guess....I'm just in a shit situation right now. I know the only person to blame is myself. But no matter how much I tell myself that I still can't seem to get out of this rut.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Boomer The Great] * 1
    #26397601 - 12/23/19 02:15 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I know it sounds cliche, but push through, and it will be better.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: HarperLewis] * 1
    #26397603 - 12/23/19 02:15 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Cooperate professionals really only 'service' each-other.  For the vast majority of people that is only growing in population, being under served is all too common.

It's a system that serves itself, class warfare and all that.  The middle class doesn't even have that much hope in those at the upper middle class that are professionals.

Society doesn't value service over money and power.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Boomer The Great] * 1
    #26397619 - 12/23/19 02:24 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Yeah that's true. My bad coming across as a dick. I wasn't trying to belittle your success. 

You guys could probably guess....I'm just in a shit situation right now. I know the only person to blame is myself. But no matter how much I tell myself that I still can't seem to get out of this rut.




No worries man, we all have our ups and downs.

Acknowledging you are unhappy with the way things currently are allows you to work to change that fact. My post was referencing just that. I feel that in a lot of ways I wasted my early 20's and had to spend the last 5 or 6 years digging out of the position I had gotten myself into.

As much as this may sound like the punchline of an after school special, picking a better spot on the horizon and putting one foot in front of the other is all it takes to get there. Some of those steps will be big, and some of them will be minuscule, but they all add up as long as you are consistent in your efforts. You and your actions are capable of changing your life, for the better or for the worse.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26397652 - 12/23/19 02:41 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Cooperate professionals really only 'service' each-other

Hey now!


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26397700 - 12/23/19 03:07 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I didn't think that made any sense either, however I thought it better to let sleeping dogs lie on this occasion.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 2
    #26397727 - 12/23/19 03:19 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I think trex was pointing out that it can be taken as a sexual double entendre.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: psi]
    #26397745 - 12/23/19 03:28 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

PSI knows my sense of humour well!:grin: Plus, they put a pun in there, on purpose or not.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26397771 - 12/23/19 03:42 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I did.  For reflection on fault.

It's true however, that professionals are in a class all their own.  Society wasn't developed into a charity.  It's a 'me' society.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
    #26398370 - 12/23/19 10:03 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not entirely sure i chose the path(s) i've taken.  Sometimes life appears as a giant plinko board and i'm getting bounced around by the pegs ov disposition and syncronicity, falling under the gravitational pull ov expectation.  Free will becomes most apparent when its disconnect with conscious choice is realized.  Evolution often takes a reactionary course regardless ov desirous intention. 

Speaking solely ov drugs, i'm glad ov the experiences.  Perhaps i would discard my mdpv era as being the least valuable, but most everything else, even and especially my term with alcohol addiction, turned to be ultimately useful in realizing myself.  Not that there were'nt acute regrets and shamefulness that i can look back upon with a sharp twist ov the head starboard, but i'm at a point where i can just say "so mote it be".


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