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I hate liberals
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I know many who visit this site are liberals and don't want to piss people off. Although president Trump is guilty of quid pro quo, you fuckers have been out to get him since day one. You let the fucking media think for you and never dare to think for yourselves. So to get it off my chest, Fuck you!!!
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Anonymous #2
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Most people capable of rational thought have known donald trump was a piece of shit since seeing him on his tv show or hearing about his shady real estate activity, far before he began his red hat cult
stupid attracts stupid, and there's a whole lot of stupid in america so he's done quite well
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Anonymous #3
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Donald is a dangerous and stupid human being. He empowers the stupid in America.
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Anonymous #1 said: You let the fucking media think for you and never dare to think for yourselves.
It's fully shaped your perspective too muchacho.
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Anonymous #1 said: I know many who visit this site are liberals and don't want to piss people off. Although president Trump is guilty of quid pro quo, you fuckers have been out to get him since day one. You let the fucking media think for you and never dare to think for yourselves. So to get it off my chest, Fuck you!!!
The liberal of today isn't openminded or free thinking, they're victims of indoctrination and propaganda. Many liberals of today are intolerant, angry, uneducated and harmful relative to the true liberal of past generations. It's a real shame, liberal thinking is needed if done properly, but that's not happening now.
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Anonymous #3
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Seems like the usual young middle class white boy thread for old orange baby
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Anonymous #6
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The right has so much hate i am sicknof it so piss off. The left isnt spreading hate we feel bad for your dumbass and hope you will see reality. No one is completly happy with the gov. But this hate you have is a bigger problem by far. Its not just talk on a website or some video online its spreading to everyday life i had someone say they will kill me because i am a socialist . not a joke for real death threat. My friends dad hit his granddaughter for saying she doesnt agree with Trump. Yall are some violent dangerous and ahoyld take a look at yourself before u blame yhe left...
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Anonymous #3
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The right just wants power to hurt people, not help.
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Anonymous #7
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You idiot fuck left and rights need to wake up and realize the media is just being used to pit you guys against each other while our wonderful representatives that couldn’t possibly give less of a shit about your feelings if they legitimately tried piss away your cash that you slave away to try and hold onto for 2 seconds. Wake up dummies.
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Anonymous #3 said: The right just wants power to hurt people, not help.
The same with the left, power corrupts regardless of ideology. Only every example of human history illustrates this fact.
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Anonymous #6 said: The right has so much hate i am sicknof it so piss off. The left isnt spreading hate we feel bad for your dumbass and hope you will see reality. No one is completly happy with the gov. But this hate you have is a bigger problem by far. Its not just talk on a website or some video online its spreading to everyday life i had someone say they will kill me because i am a socialist . not a joke for real death threat. My friends dad hit his granddaughter for saying she doesnt agree with Trump. Yall are some violent dangerous and ahoyld take a look at yourself before u blame yhe left...
The left commits the same behavior, don't fool yourself.
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I do agree with that ita the rich bastards and corporations that are the problem and fighting eachother wont help asi said the right is violently supporting these people and of you dont think trump is a part od the problem or the conservatives in congress are totalitarians that fully aupport us getting fucked because they are paid for it . and yes not to say dems or the left is perfect there are plenty of shitty politicians to go around but that doesnt make it ok to support fucking trump.
Does the left do that i dont hear anyone i know on the left that supports violence or hatered. Except maybe wanting to eat the rich... Not aginst eachother or the right entirely with this totalitarian view . So no i dont think both sides are the same i hear the right use violence and threats almost every day now in my real life not online or tv and real life left says nothing like that nor do they condone it so thats not true that they are equal or the same . dont lie to me son
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The left hates anyone that disagrees with anything they believe in, there's no middle ground. The left wasn't always like this, it's a rather new development in this modern PC world. The intolerant left is a real thing today, follow the rules or get slandered with a label. People got sick of the BS and now Trump rules the land.
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Can't play for a team that's not in the game.
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Anonymous #8
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You’re absolutely right I’m not tolerant. I’m not tolerant of people that ignore science in favor internet conspiracy theories, I’m not tolerant of those that believe their religious beliefs should shape public policy, I’m not tolerant of racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic, assholes that inflict their ignorance on society. You keep claiming you want to make America great but no one will ever answer the question of when America was great for ALL AMERICANS. Not just wealthy, white men, because I don’t remember that time.
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You mean you can’t get away with wearing black face, using racial epithets, or being blatantly discriminatory without repercussions?
15, 20 years ago you could call someone the n-word and go about your day. Now you do it you’re getting recording, next it’s posted to social media, and then you’re getting escorted out of your workplace. Or maybe it’s women no longer willing to tolerate rampant sexual harassment.
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You people don’t know how good you’ve got it.
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Anonymous #9
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What do you mean "you people"?
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Anonymous #3
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Yes, we have a nice prison. It's still a prison though.
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You’re absolutely right I’m not tolerant. I’m not tolerant of people that ignore science in favor internet conspiracy theories, I’m not tolerant of those that believe their religious beliefs should shape public policy, I’m not tolerant of racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic, assholes that inflict their ignorance on society. You keep claiming you want to make America great but no one will ever answer the question of when America was great for ALL AMERICANS. Not just wealthy, white men, because I don’t remember that time.
Yet, the left ignores or makes excuses when the racism, sexism and homophobia comes from non-white people, why is that? You see, hating just white males and ignoring the bigotry of others isn't free minded liberalism.
Selective intolerance of others is exactly the thing you're blaming others for, but the vast majority of the left does it as well.
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Anonymous #8 said: You mean you can’t get away with wearing black face, using racial epithets, or being blatantly discriminatory without repercussions?
15, 20 years ago you could call someone the n-word and go about your day. Now you do it you’re getting recording, next it’s posted to social media, and then you’re getting escorted out of your workplace. Or maybe it’s women no longer willing to tolerate rampant sexual harassment.
I don't know when you think it was acceptable to call people the N-word, but it surely wasn't 20 years ago. It wasn't acceptable even 50 years ago. It was never acceptable to sexually harass women, it's just dealt with differently today.
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Anonymous #8
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When has the left ever condoned these ism? Conservatives have done a great job of deluding the definitions of racism, sexism, etc. Yet every extremist white group identifies themselves as Conservatives and have unnatural of anything considered Liberal. Before you trot out the old “Democrats supported slavery” keep in mind that party labels switched in the 60s. All those racist Democrats switched parties when LBJ supported Civil Rights Legislation.
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Re-read my comment
I’m not saying that the use of the n-word or sexual harassment was acceptable. But with the invention of social media more scumbags are being exposed and that’s what has Conservatives up in arms. It’s not so easy to talk and act reckless when your behavior can be exposed to millions across the world.
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Anonymous #8 said: When has the left ever condoned these ism? Conservatives have done a great job of deluding the definitions of racism, sexism, etc. Yet every extremist white group identifies themselves as Conservatives and have unnatural of anything considered Liberal. Before you trot out the old “Democrats supported slavery” keep in mind that party labels switched in the 60s. All those racist Democrats switched parties when LBJ supported Civil Rights Legislation.
Does the left address racism against whites by blacks and Hispanics? No, some even suggest you can't be racist against white people. Does the left address sexist and homophobic non-white cultures? No, Islam and others get a free pass. Look at rap music in the African American community, it's full of sexist, homophobic and racist language, yet not a word.
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I’m not saying that the use of the n-word or sexual harassment was acceptable. But with the invention of social media more scumbags are being exposed and that’s what has Conservatives up in arms. It’s not so easy to talk and act reckless when your behavior can be exposed to millions across the world.
Everyone knows it's a new world today and I wouldn't suggest conservatives are up in arms about it. Look who's getting busted more than anyone today, it's famous people like Harvey Weinstein, Charlie Rose, Matt Lauer, Jeff Epstein and many others. So it really doesn't matter if your liberal or conservative, everyone gets busted.
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They've done research and conservatives score higher on disgust sensatvity. So avoidance is still an attachment.
Liberals are more open minded and educated. Conservative propaganda preys on the weak.
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Liberals are more open minded and educated. Conservative propaganda preys on the weak.
Liberals should be more open minded than conservatives, but today that isn't the case. Being open minded doesn't mean you fall into line on every issue to defend an ideology, but that's what most liberals do today. Just regurgitating what your college professor is spewing isn't being open minded or thoughtful.
Liberal propaganda also preys on the weak and that's happening more than ever today and Trump Derangement Syndrome is a perfect example. Liberals used too care more about the facts and evidence, again that's no longer the case today.
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Anonymous #6 said: The right has so much hate i am sicknof it so piss off. The left isnt spreading hate we feel bad for your dumbass and hope you will see reality. No one is completly happy with the gov. But this hate you have is a bigger problem by far. Its not just talk on a website or some video online its spreading to everyday life i had someone say they will kill me because i am a socialist . not a joke for real death threat. My friends dad hit his granddaughter for saying she doesnt agree with Trump. Yall are some violent dangerous and ahoyld take a look at yourself before u blame yhe left...
The left commits the same behavior, don't fool yourself.
absolutely they do
it doesn't excuse the conservatives that fall under this category but the left, even though they mask themselves as the party of love and acceptance, is every bit as hateful as the right
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Anonymous #11
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Can't people just see that this whole dem vs lib bullshit was orchestrated by the powers that be and carried out by the media just to divide us? Divide and conquer. While we're fighting, they're quietly sneaking out the back door with all our rights and money.
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Anonymous #12
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If I'm being completely honest as a liberal, I don't really think trump has been that bad as president. In fact, in terms of international politics, I think he's been pretty good. Not necessarily great, but pretty good.
My main complaints with him have to do with stuff that he's said that I find highly inappropriate or dangerous. Like him joking about trying to stick around as president after his terms are up, or building a dynasty that lasts forever. It's not very likely that he'll do either of those, but just saying those things as president is very dangerous. At the very least, it sets a bad precedent. Presidents shouldn't even joke about stuff like that because at the very least it normalizes it and makes it easier for worse people down the road to say the same things and mean it.
Despite what you may think about liberals, I'm also concerned about him degrading the dignity of the presidency and about his morality and the example he sets more generally. When republicans would make arguments about the dignity of the presidency or the examples the president sets (for example when Obama was around) I took those arguments relatively seriously. I may not have agreed that certain clothes set a bad example, but the idea more broadly that the president should set a good example and that the position itself needs to be carried with a certain amount of dignity I took pretty seriously.
And now I guess I have to throw all of that away because it turns out that the republicans talking about that stuff didn't really believe in any of it to begin with. Trump does cray shit and the republicans are totally silent. Which is just weird, because like they made me take the whole thing really seriously when apparently they don't give a damn about the morality or dignity or even the basic decency of the presidency. And I do give a damn about it, but it just feels like the whole situation is backwards somehow. I'm arguing for morality and decency and the religious right is not? What gives?
I also don't like how much he has courted people on the far, far right which has emboldened and empowered racists and nazis. But that might have happened anyway with or without him. Still, I'm not crazy about his support or courting of people on the far right.
I was not actually against him from day 1. If you went back in my posts, you'd find I supported him for a while after he became president.
I also oppose the impeachment. I'm sure a lot of other democrats (including some politicians) feel the same way, but a lot of them are afraid to say anything about it. I'm sure republicans know how that feels these days. I'm sure there are a lot of real conservatives who are horrified by some things trump has done or said, but don't feel like they can speak out about it. This whole impeachment thing is AOC's fault. If she hadn't pushed for it, no one else would have done it. She really backed the party into a stupid corner there.
Sorry for writing a book for this post.
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It's ok - liberals love you
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Anonymous #12 said: If I'm being completely honest as a liberal, I don't really think trump has been that bad as president. In fact, in terms of international politics, I think he's been pretty good. Not necessarily great, but pretty good.
My main complaints with him have to do with stuff that he's said that I find highly inappropriate or dangerous. Like him joking about trying to stick around as president after his terms are up, or building a dynasty that lasts forever. It's not very likely that he'll do either of those, but just saying those things as president is very dangerous. At the very least, it sets a bad precedent. Presidents shouldn't even joke about stuff like that because at the very least it normalizes it and makes it easier for worse people down the road to say the same things and mean it.
Despite what you may think about liberals, I'm also concerned about him degrading the dignity of the presidency and about his morality and the example he sets more generally. When republicans would make arguments about the dignity of the presidency or the examples the president sets (for example when Obama was around) I took those arguments relatively seriously. I may not have agreed that certain clothes set a bad example, but the idea more broadly that the president should set a good example and that the position itself needs to be carried with a certain amount of dignity I took pretty seriously.
And now I guess I have to throw all of that away because it turns out that the republicans talking about that stuff didn't really believe in any of it to begin with. Trump does cray shit and the republicans are totally silent. Which is just weird, because like they made me take the whole thing really seriously when apparently they don't give a damn about the morality or dignity or even the basic decency of the presidency. And I do give a damn about it, but it just feels like the whole situation is backwards somehow. I'm arguing for morality and decency and the religious right is not? What gives?
I also don't like how much he has courted people on the far, far right which has emboldened and empowered racists and nazis. But that might have happened anyway with or without him. Still, I'm not crazy about his support or courting of people on the far right.
I was not actually against him from day 1. If you went back in my posts, you'd find I supported him for a while after he became president.
I also oppose the impeachment. I'm sure a lot of other democrats (including some politicians) feel the same way, but a lot of them are afraid to say anything about it. I'm sure republicans know how that feels these days. I'm sure there are a lot of real conservatives who are horrified by some things trump has done or said, but don't feel like they can speak out about it. This whole impeachment thing is AOC's fault. If she hadn't pushed for it, no one else would have done it. She really backed the party into a stupid corner there.
Sorry for writing a book for this post.
Morality and decency are subjective, so I suggest you adjust to the politics of 2020 so that you're not left behind. Social media has changed the world and looking in the rear view mirror isn't going to serve much purpose.
Trump makes up the rules as he goes along and that's why he wins every time. He doesn't care what it takes because he has no limits.
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Anonymous #13
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Zappaisgod was the most conservative republican to ever grace the earth and he loathed Trump. He mostly based this on having knowledge as a NY businessman of the epic clusterfuck parade that was the Trump empire.
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Anonymous #14
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If a person that is infatuated with politics were able to tally up all the time they spent laboring over manufactured-for-your-consumption-and-parroting talking points, arguing their manufactured-for-your-consumption-and-parroting talking points with the alternate manufactured-for-their-consumption-and-parroting talking points, you'd realize that not only have you been completely neutered and rendered meaningless (because all that time amounted to nothing whatsoever but a waste of time) but that you've spent years on it when you could have been living.
There is no difference in masturbating over "political beliefs" and football-- your views have equal weight with both, and effect the outcome the same way.
Move on.
The parasites will do whatever they want-- don't waste your life following and infatuating over every move-- they're all the exact same club wearing the same jersey under their little "conservative" and "liberal" stage names.
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Op is a dumbass😂
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Anonymous #14 said: If a person that is infatuated with politics were able to tally up all the time they spent laboring over manufactured-for-your-consumption-and-parroting talking points, arguing their manufactured-for-your-consumption-and-parroting talking points with the alternate manufactured-for-their-consumption-and-parroting talking points, you'd realize that not only have you been completely neutered and rendered meaningless (because all that time amounted to nothing whatsoever but a waste of time) but that you've spent years on it when you could have been living.
There is no difference in masturbating over "political beliefs" and football-- your views have equal weight with both, and effect the outcome the same way.
Move on.
The parasites will do whatever they want-- don't waste your life following and infatuating over every move-- they're all the exact same club wearing the same jersey under their little "conservative" and "liberal" stage names.
A million +1's to you sir!!
I really wish there were more people like you in the world.
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Anonymous #6 said: The right has so much hate i am sicknof it so piss off. The left isnt spreading hate we feel bad for your dumbass and hope you will see reality. No one is completly happy with the gov. But this hate you have is a bigger problem by far. Its not just talk on a website or some video online its spreading to everyday life i had someone say they will kill me because i am a socialist . not a joke for real death threat. My friends dad hit his granddaughter for saying she doesnt agree with Trump. Yall are some violent dangerous and ahoyld take a look at yourself before u blame yhe left...
The left commits the same behavior, don't fool yourself.
It's mostly the right that engages in petty violence. There was an incident where someone who was registered as republican maced a woman and a few standing next to her. And rather than trump condemning this behavior he went on tv and stated he would pay for anyone's legal fees related to that kind of behavior. If that's not encouraging violence I don't know what is.
But rep and dems are both bullshit parties. Neither care about the average American. They care about what the money and the lobbiest tell them to. Because if your not a billionaire you can't get elected on your own money. And if you where a billionaire your interests would run counter to someone who makes $40,000 and has kids.
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Anonymous #17
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Yes yes, let the hate flow through you.
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Anonymous #6 said: The right has so much hate i am sicknof it so piss off. The left isnt spreading hate we feel bad for your dumbass and hope you will see reality. No one is completly happy with the gov. But this hate you have is a bigger problem by far. Its not just talk on a website or some video online its spreading to everyday life i had someone say they will kill me because i am a socialist . not a joke for real death threat. My friends dad hit his granddaughter for saying she doesnt agree with Trump. Yall are some violent dangerous and ahoyld take a look at yourself before u blame yhe left...
The left commits the same behavior, don't fool yourself.
It's mostly the right that engages in petty violence. There was an incident where someone who was registered as republican maced a woman and a few standing next to her. And rather than trump condemning this behavior he went on tv and stated he would pay for anyone's legal fees related to that kind of behavior. If that's not encouraging violence I don't know what is.
But rep and dems are both bullshit parties. Neither care about the average American. They care about what the money and the lobbiest tell them to. Because if your not a billionaire you can't get elected on your own money. And if you where a billionaire your interests would run counter to someone who makes $40,000 and has kids.
The left is just as violent if not more. That has nothing to do with Trump and his bullshit. People are responsible for their own actions, that applies to all people regardless of political ideology.
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It's mostly the right that engages in petty violence.
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Really, trump got elected on a platform of hate. Talking about how illegals are animals. That all Muslims should have to register. If anyone from the left had said that shit they would of been ran out of DC. So it's a little hard for me to believe that some liberal hippy is going to be the one going around trying to punch a bunch of MAGA hat wearing jokers.
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Really, trump got elected on a platform of hate. Talking about how illegals are animals. That all Muslims should have to register. If anyone from the left had said that shit they would of been ran out of DC. So it's a little hard for me to believe that some liberal hippy is going to be the one going around trying to punch a bunch of MAGA hat wearing jokers.
Yet, they did and still do.
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Really, trump got elected on a platform of hate. Talking about how illegals are animals. That all Muslims should have to register. If anyone from the left had said that shit they would of been ran out of DC. So it's a little hard for me to believe that some liberal hippy is going to be the one going around trying to punch a bunch of MAGA hat wearing jokers.
Yet, they did and still do.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/in-the-united-states-right-wing-violence-is-on-the-rise/2018/11/25/61f7f24a-deb4-11e8-85df-7a6b4d25cfbb_story.html
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Anonymous #18
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In my opinion Donald Trumps biggest crime is that he has not legalized marijuana on the federal level and all 50 states.
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Anonymous #16
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As I understand it no president can magically make anything legal or illegal. All they can do is sign a bill when it's given to them Without congress and the House of Representatives pushing a bill through the president can't do much of anything in that regard. And even if he did sign a bill legalizing cannabis on a federal level states are still able to enforce laws against cannabis. Just look at kratom or salvia divinorum federally legal but many states have laws against possessing either. I believe even if we legalized cannabis tomorrow on a federal level there would be quite a few Bible Belt states that would keep it illegal. Can't have all those darkies running around smoking reefers listening to jazz!
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Bernie Sanders said he would use executive order to legalize. Donald trump could do that but he has refused
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How do you figure theres bunches of cases of the rightwing violence its well documented aven that the right has had more terror atacks in the america than any middle eastern group. Also the right hates like this and seem unaware that the left is not like this in fact there a quote now i hear by many on the left " you can hate trump but not his voters" seems like the exact opposite of the right. So prive it where is this leftist violence besides some fight that broke out between protesters.
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Give me one example of the left getting violent, except that time when they got violent.
The left are blinded by novelty, they get mesmerized by it no matter how absurd it is. Rational thought however is apparently not novel enough for them to consider adopting into their daily practices.
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The left are blinded by novelty, they get mesmerized by it no matter how absurd it is. Rational thought however is apparently not novel enough for them to consider adopting into their daily practices.
The right are blinded by hatred, they get tricked into believing that anyone that doesn't believe and preach what they do are their enemy. A lot of them proclaim they are devote Christians but modern day Christianity is not supposed to be about hatred and judgement.
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I'm with you . Liberals are fucking stupid . Prob sell out their own parents to save a seal or some chimp or some other dumb bullshit . They are not Patriots and dont give a fuck about protecting the USA from countries dying to fuck us up. They're idiots . They'd hand over the keys and be surprised when Islamic states fuck their wives in the ass and kill their kids .
They just don't understand the sacrifices one has to give up to protect a family or a nation or an economy .
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They just don't understand the sacrifices one has to give up to protect a family or a nation or an economy .
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Republican Party/Democratic Party - two different sides of the same corrupt coin. Being that I do not affiliate myself with any existing party, I can see that people are blaming the "opposing" side when it is actually the government to blame.
The government loves this division. Groups that are divided are easier to control and even easier to manipulate.
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Anonymous #7
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I’m glad to see that occasionally someone gets it. This left vs right shit is like Hulk Hogan vs Macho Man and people buy it up like it actually matters. Anyone claiming to be left or right is an immediate red flag that this person is a fucking moron fully under the spell and lacks any amount of critical thinking. The same type of person who sucks up mainstream news like it’s milk from mother’s teet.
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I dont hate liberals I have friends who are I guess what you would call "classic liberals" but by today's standards their views seem centrist and even libertarian because of how far left democratics have become.
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In what way have the democrats been so far to the left mostly they seem pretty reasonable. I dont agree with alot of their ideas but i dont se why you say to the left so much like the word left for you is the same as fag or nigger it feels?
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maybe left is the wrong word but i dont know how else to describe their fascination with socialism , mass immigration ,promoting gender re-assignment in young children and suing doctors who try to talk kids out of cutting their dicks off. their blantant disregard for the 1st and 2nd amendment shutting down speeches on campuses making up bullshit like the gender pay gap. constantly race-baiting and trying to make the public believe that women and minorities dont have rights in our county
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Anonymous #6 said: In what way have the democrats been so far to the left mostly they seem pretty reasonable. I dont agree with alot of their ideas but i dont se why you say to the left so much like the word left for you is the same as fag or nigger it feels?
Democrats are godless , shallow , and mostly unpatriotic , they represent degenerate ideals and typically are like the group you join as freshman politics because you can be an idealist and really not have to deal with hard choices like protecting the nation from fucks who want to kill you .
A dem will want to talk it out with them and think it works in a world where everyone wants to fuck up this country nam style and lie to your face about it . Dems will be late to the fight when they realize other countries have been fucking with them the whole time, they'll ask for major handouts without contributing , they will want a fucked up form or communistic hybrid socialism ,basically compete 1984 control realized .
At least the republican war machine keeps these assholes from blowing up the goddamned country, keeps money here by not over taxing the rich because very low life dem wants a check in the mail every month so they can buy weed and do thug shit .
Fuck half of dems are after the second amendment to be abolished completely . They'd kill Jesus if they could , if you believe in that . Fuck them . All you have to do is look at the coup they have been trying to pull the last three years calling it liberty and democracy ,yeah fucking right .
Not all dems are like that no ,but they have a fucked up agenda , the major agenda for the future is coming from the axis of those few that stand together at every rally , what the fuck for ? Why is every past dem president structure supporting the other as to indicate that is the norm . They're planning a takeover . And you will get shit for rights . At least the Republican Party still has a few virtues , they don't kill babies and they don't take your guns and they don't over tax the wealthy because fuck if they leave then ain't no one going to have a job outside of fast food or some bullshit job . If you want a country like a ghetto and ruled by another country behind the curtain, by all means be a dem .if you want to fight for what people gave their lives for so you could a least carry a weapon to protect yourself or work with out being told what to work as or who for then be rep. Or maybe just be glad you have not had yourself aborted in the past because of how difficult rep has made it because of the value of life that most rep feel for conception . Instead of oh fuck I don't want to have a baby but I was just to childish and irresponsible to be a fucking grown up when I was fucking , so I'll kill the future whoever the kid would have turned out to be .
By the way it was the rep party who ended slavery , dems historically wanted to keep slavery, check out that fact .
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That's why I'm a Libra. Balanced centrist.
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Lol , that's funny
Calmed me down , I gotta get off this ASAP , gets me too worked up
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My pleasure. Be sure to rate me +5 shrooms. <------ There to the left.
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How many liberals do you need to cry you a river?
One, just one.
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The problem with your thought process.... is if I'm pro-healthcare for example.... you interpret that as me never having read the book 1984 + im a socialist communist asshole + only focus on utopian dreams that cant happen.
But..... if firefighters were privatized right now. And I suggested making them free..... could you use that same argument against me?
What you dont seem to grasp about 1984 is that the person involved is an exception. Almost all people on earth BELIEVE that 2 + 2 = 3. You couldnt convince them otherwise. So the reason I think you are stuck in 1984-type reality is that you cant separate that the addition of universal healthcare as something that could be just like cops or firefighters being added in.
Do you understand what I'm saying? You should view adding healthcare in a VERY similar way to considering if we didnt have firefighters and we added in firefighters. You can still disagree with healthcare if you want. But someone believing in it doesnt automatically mean they cant do math and have broken brains.
I reckon IF firefighters were pay in services that you dont get if you dont pay directly.... you would lose your mind at the thought of free firefighters. "SOCIALIST! If you want to be COVERED you need FIREDEPARTMENT INSURANCE like the REST of us!!!"
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One feels with the heart.
The other thinks with the brain.
The heart is best felt on cocaine and hookers.
Better to think with the brain.
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Yeah, there's a big difference between leftist and liberal I'm with you though, I don't hate anyone
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Yeah, there's a big difference between leftist and liberal I'm with you though, I don't hate anyone
I want free healthcare. Does that make me "leftist" or "liberal" to you? Am I on the extreme left?
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Yeah, there's a big difference between leftist and liberal I'm with you though, I don't hate anyone
I want free healthcare. Does that make me "leftist" or "liberal" to you? Am I on the extreme left?
It makes you neither leftist or liberal
If you're not mentally/physically disabled or elderly, then wanting something for free makes you lazy or a mooch that doesn't want to assume any responsibility to take care of your own self.
Do you think it's someone else's responsibility to take care of you?
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Yeah, there's a big difference between leftist and liberal I'm with you though, I don't hate anyone
I want free healthcare. Does that make me "leftist" or "liberal" to you? Am I on the extreme left?
It makes you neither leftist or liberal
If you're not mentally/physically disabled or elderly, then wanting something for free makes you lazy or a mooch that doesn't want to assume any responsibility to take care of your own self.
Do you think it's someone else's responsibility to take care of you?
Why do you think it's the military, police department, fire department, public schools, social security and Medicare to take care of you? Stop mooching off the US government and take care of yourself.
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Don’t Congress get paychecks and healthcare’s for life? I guess commie socialist policies are OK as long as you’re not an average American
If you take politics seriously, you’re a fucking moron of the lowest order. America is a banana republic and we’re all a bunch of pussies for allowing it.
Fuck Washington and all of you who participate and support the bullshit that flows from it.
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Except none of those services are free when you have a job and pay taxes, so no, it's not mooching when I work to take care of myself and pay my own way instead of expecting someone else to
You should try it out, you know, having a job and paying taxes
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Healthcare costs are out of control. Free or not shit’s overpriced, and there’s times when people should get treatment even if they can’t pay. All that government shit is corrupt. They make the rules up as they go so they keep winning. I had a big brother growing up I know the hustle.
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You’re all a bunch of patriotic pussies fighting over who the biggest patriotic pussy is.
Bunch of fuckin idiots
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Bernie Sanders is going to save the world with more taxes
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I just can’t believe people still believe the show. It’s like a 40 year old looking you dead in the eyes and telling you wrestling is real.
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That is a reasonable reply, yes healthcare is overpriced. That's where we need to start. Lowering healthcare costs before we can give it away for "free"
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Bunch of fuckin idiots
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Bunch of fuckin idiots
But can you hang an American flag from your erect penis?
Great idea! That’s progress, hanging flags from our dicks. Seems like a natural progression from a bunch of idiots
Anymore ideas?
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I heard an unsubstantiated rumor that part of the reason healthcare is so pricey is because Medicare and Medicaid will only pay so much for a procedure forcing the entity that performs the procedure to write off the remainder of the balance they would normally charge. So the industry makes up for it with higher prices.
The more people on 'free' healthcare, the more expensive the procedures get for everyone else.
I haven't even bothered to look this up and not sure if all the healthcare changes in recent years have made things different.... so this may be worth ignoring.
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You should try it out, you know, having a job and paying taxes
Exactly, taxes equals some sort of social service. Why are the existing services paid with taxes acceptable, but health care isn't? There's no consistency to your argument at all.
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That is a reasonable reply, yes healthcare is overpriced. That's where we need to start. Lowering healthcare costs before we can give it away for "free"
Who said it would be free? Medicare isn't free, so why would Medicare for all be free?
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Things would look a lot different if the people who receive and control that tax money were held accountable with where it went. So much of it gets siphoned off the top it’s ridiculous and nobody ever gets in trouble for it. They don’t even hide that they’re doing it, they just say “nobody knows where it went”.
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The more people on 'free' healthcare, the more expensive the procedures get for everyone else.
I haven't even bothered to look this up and not sure if all the healthcare changes in recent years have made things different.... so this may be worth ignoring.
No, it actually becomes less expensive because there's cost controls and no profit motivation. Insurance racks in 20% of the costs just for being a middleman, get rid of those scammers and costs automatically come down.
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The more people on 'free' healthcare, the more expensive the procedures get for everyone else.
I haven't even bothered to look this up and not sure if all the healthcare changes in recent years have made things different.... so this may be worth ignoring.
Stop blinding believing everything republican conservatives tell you about Medicaid and Medicare. Stop blaming poor people on Medicare for all your problems. Medicare is a good thing because other the poor people on it would NEVER be able to afford insurance at all whatsoever. If they are poor then that’s means they are not going to have a good enough job that offers health care. Not every job offers health insurance and not every job offers good insurance in the USA!
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How come these outbursts are always super lacking in substance but all sound the same? There are left-wing idiots who can't think for themselves and right-wing idiots who can't think for themselves. It's really bizarre to watch from the outside. Idiots screaming at idiots.
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The more people on 'free' healthcare, the more expensive the procedures get for everyone else.
I haven't even bothered to look this up and not sure if all the healthcare changes in recent years have made things different.... so this may be worth ignoring.
Stop blinding believing everything republican conservatives tell you about Medicaid and Medicare. Stop blaming poor people on Medicare for all your problems. Medicare is a good thing because other the poor people on it would NEVER be able to afford insurance at all whatsoever. If they are poor then that’s means they are not going to have a good enough job that offers health care. Not every job offers health insurance and not every job offers good insurance in the USA!
Years ago I worked in medical collections. I know for a fact that hospitals had to and likely still have to write off a good chunk of Medicare and Medicaid bills because the actual cost of services is greater than the maximum M and M will pay.
The rumor part is that this setting of prices is part of why everyone else's healthcare is so expensive.
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Maybe because the majority lack an education? Or critical thinking? Or reading comprehension? Or patience, empathy, and consideration? Definitely self-reflection.
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Would you watch from the outside when debating whether or not alcohol should be legal?
What about if firefighters should be free?
A lot of us started from standing on the fence. I remember it well. Dont think youre some mystical force. Most fence sitters I've met think their shit doesnt stink and they are unique lol.
All it means is youre indecisive, a fool, or a dick.
(try not to get triggered, I am not having a go at you)
I just reckon that healthcare is a human right. I cannot understand how anyone can think otherwise. It is absolute madness that some people with lumps on their breasts dont get them checked to keep food on the table.
I reckon anti-healthcare people AND people with no dogs in the fight.... simply have never lived and worked in other countries. Youd laugh at america after a year in New Zealand. Guarantee it.
The RAREST thing abroad is a homesick american. The only thing we miss is the food and our family. The rest of the country can burn.
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Oh and just some information for you as a world traveler. If youre interested at all. I dont mean to sound arrogant. I am mainly just amazed at the info I have learned and am sharing the info. If you can manage to read my text in that way that would be cool. Understand if not.
I remember very clearly landing in Sydney on my first departure out of the US. I remember having this .... this.... accepting of reality that what reality was..... was intense heated political arguments about very important topics that could change everything in the country.
Then I landed in sydney and sat in the waiting area for a few hours watching the news. Two aussie blokes were fucking going AT IT. I still hadnt quite nailed the accent and I was just marveling at the "same old same old" style of news. And then it dawned on me what the two men were arguing about.
SHARK BUOYS. They were literally losing their fucking mind about Western Australia borrowing Shark buoys from over east to trial them to see if they save lives before investing to buy their own.
It was just such a tiny.... irrelevant.... "blah" thing to be arguing about. It reminded me of the thought of two mice fighting for a crumb.
Additionally..... do you know what the healthcare debate is in all the countries I've been?
It goes like this 99 percent of the time:
"AND THEN!!!!! The fucking LOW LIFE SCUM goes into the FUCKING HOSPO just because she has the FLU! Thats MY tax dollars at work!!!!!"
Imagine that. Imagine being upset about someone over using a healthcare INSTEAD of under using it.
For me as an outsider.... it makes me smile and laugh every time. And it happens a lot.
The way I see it is..... the rest of the world pretty much has "it" figured out. They are just battling for crumbs.
But hey..... there is no objective truth. The sky could be below us and I might be a dream. I can only speak what I think the truth is.
Sorry for the ramble! Drinking with some maoris having a blessed day! Yeeeeehaw. Texan in NZ!!!!
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That is a reasonable reply, yes healthcare is overpriced. That's where we need to start. Lowering healthcare costs before we can give it away for "free"
Who said it would be free? Medicare isn't free, so why would Medicare for all be free?
No shit? You should probably explain that to #24
What are the estimates for Bernie Sanders M4A brainfart? 34 billion a year? I'm sure Americans just have that laying around somewhere....
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That is a reasonable reply, yes healthcare is overpriced. That's where we need to start. Lowering healthcare costs before we can give it away for "free"
Who said it would be free? Medicare isn't free, so why would Medicare for all be free?
No shit? You should probably explain that to #24
What are the estimates for Bernie Sanders M4A brainfart? 34 billion a year? I'm sure Americans just have that laying around somewhere....
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That is a reasonable reply, yes healthcare is overpriced. That's where we need to start. Lowering healthcare costs before we can give it away for "free"
Who said it would be free? Medicare isn't free, so why would Medicare for all be free?
No shit? You should probably explain that to #24
What are the estimates for Bernie Sanders M4A brainfart? 34 billion a year? I'm sure Americans just have that laying around somewhere....
Yeah they do have it laying around. In the form of premiums and copays deductibles and out of pocket and shit.
Whats your health insurance per person work out to multiplied by 370 million? Where are they gonna pull that out of their ass from?
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Sure they do, that's why 20+ million Americans don't even have health insurance is because they can afford premiums, co-pays, out of pocket expenses, deductibles and shit
Most Americans don't have $2000 in their bank account, but yeah, let's tax everyone $10,000+ a year to maybe fund M4A. And then Medicare doesn't cover ears, eyes, teeth or prescriptions. I'm sure there's 34 trillion laying around somewhere to pay for this.....
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That is a reasonable reply, yes healthcare is overpriced. That's where we need to start. Lowering healthcare costs before we can give it away for "free"
Who said it would be free? Medicare isn't free, so why would Medicare for all be free?
No shit? You should probably explain that to #24
What are the estimates for Bernie Sanders M4A brainfart? 34 billion a year? I'm sure Americans just have that laying around somewhere....
I thought I edited this post, I mean to say 34 trillion over 10 years
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Most Americans don't have $2000 in their bank account, but yeah, let's tax everyone $10,000+ a year to maybe fund M4A. And then Medicare doesn't cover ears, eyes, teeth or prescriptions. I'm sure there's 34 trillion laying around somewhere to pay for this.....
Everybody is already paying for health care, we don't need to tax anyone at all. As far as the uninsured, we are already paying for them as well, it doesn't matter.
We are not going to spend $34 trillion, that's beyond stupid. It would cost that much if we didn't eliminate insurance profits. Insurance companies take money for doing absolutely nothing, that's coming to an end. Big profits are coming to an end, we're going to pay for health care, not shareholders.
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Conservative Republicans want to give tax breaks to the rich and take away health care from the poor. The rich already have money they don’t need anymore tax breaks. The rich are already rich. They don’t need more money. The poor don’t have money. The poor can’t afford health care and their jobs don’t provide them with health care. That’s why I support free health care for all. The rich can afford to pay for health care for all. They just don’t want too. Why? Because they are greedy. Not because it costs too much, but because they are greedy.
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Most Americans don't have $2000 in their bank account, but yeah, let's tax everyone $10,000+ a year to maybe fund M4A. And then Medicare doesn't cover ears, eyes, teeth or prescriptions. I'm sure there's 34 trillion laying around somewhere to pay for this.....
Everybody is already paying for health care, we don't need to tax anyone at all. As far as the uninsured, we are already paying for them as well, it doesn't matter.
We are not going to spend $34 trillion, that's beyond stupid. It would cost that much if we didn't eliminate insurance profits. Insurance companies take money for doing absolutely nothing, that's coming to an end. Big profits are coming to an end, we're going to pay for health care, not shareholders.
To think that every American plus every undocumented immigrant is going to have healthcare without taxes being raised substantially.... is beyond stupid
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Most Americans don't have $2000 in their bank account, but yeah, let's tax everyone $10,000+ a year to maybe fund M4A. And then Medicare doesn't cover ears, eyes, teeth or prescriptions. I'm sure there's 34 trillion laying around somewhere to pay for this.....
Everybody is already paying for health care, we don't need to tax anyone at all. As far as the uninsured, we are already paying for them as well, it doesn't matter.
We are not going to spend $34 trillion, that's beyond stupid. It would cost that much if we didn't eliminate insurance profits. Insurance companies take money for doing absolutely nothing, that's coming to an end. Big profits are coming to an end, we're going to pay for health care, not shareholders.
To think that every American plus every undocumented immigrant is going to have healthcare without taxes being raised substantially.... is beyond stupid
They won’t be raised, just evened out. Do you think billionaires should keep paying a smaller share than working class families?
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Most Americans don't have $2000 in their bank account, but yeah, let's tax everyone $10,000+ a year to maybe fund M4A. And then Medicare doesn't cover ears, eyes, teeth or prescriptions. I'm sure there's 34 trillion laying around somewhere to pay for this.....
Everybody is already paying for health care, we don't need to tax anyone at all. As far as the uninsured, we are already paying for them as well, it doesn't matter.
We are not going to spend $34 trillion, that's beyond stupid. It would cost that much if we didn't eliminate insurance profits. Insurance companies take money for doing absolutely nothing, that's coming to an end. Big profits are coming to an end, we're going to pay for health care, not shareholders.
To think that every American plus every undocumented immigrant is going to have healthcare without taxes being raised substantially.... is beyond stupid
The US already spends DOUBLE of what the 2nd highest health care system in the world does, we don't need to raise taxes at all. The money currently being spent will be used, in fact it should be substantially cheaper than the cost today.
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Ok, Stalin
Your Communism is showing
Yes, the health care industry shouldn't include making hundreds of billions off of working class citizens. That's what the rest of the civilized world decided many decades ago.
If someone has the money and wants private care, nobody is going to stop them.
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Why do middle class conservative republicans want to help billionaires? Those billionaires would never try to help you back they only care about their billions thats why so many people in the usa are poor right now because the rich hoard all their wealth and dont want to let the poor have health care.
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Did you give your paycheck this week to a homeless person?
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Epic troll anon #1 i dont think a single one of these sheep has noticed you posted this and never posted again.
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Most Americans don't have $2000 in their bank account, but yeah, let's tax everyone $10,000+ a year to maybe fund M4A. And then Medicare doesn't cover ears, eyes, teeth or prescriptions. I'm sure there's 34 trillion laying around somewhere to pay for this.....
Everybody is already paying for health care, we don't need to tax anyone at all. As far as the uninsured, we are already paying for them as well, it doesn't matter.
We are not going to spend $34 trillion, that's beyond stupid. It would cost that much if we didn't eliminate insurance profits. Insurance companies take money for doing absolutely nothing, that's coming to an end. Big profits are coming to an end, we're going to pay for health care, not shareholders.
To think that every American plus every undocumented immigrant is going to have healthcare without taxes being raised substantially.... is beyond stupid
They won’t be raised, just evened out. Do you think billionaires should keep paying a smaller share than working class families?
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Most Americans don't have $2000 in their bank account, but yeah, let's tax everyone $10,000 a year to maybe fund M4A. And then Medicare doesn't cover ears, eyes, teeth or prescriptions. I'm sure there's 34 trillion laying around somewhere to pay for this.....
Everybody is already paying for health care, we don't need to tax anyone at all. As far as the uninsured, we are already paying for them as well, it doesn't matter.
We are not going to spend $34 trillion, that's beyond stupid. It would cost that much if we didn't eliminate insurance profits. Insurance companies take money for doing absolutely nothing, that's coming to an end. Big profits are coming to an end, we're going to pay for health care, not shareholders.
To think that every American plus every undocumented immigrant is going to have healthcare without taxes being raised substantially.... is beyond stupid
They won’t be raised, just evened out. Do you think billionaires should keep paying a smaller share than working class families?
LOL, and how much did you pay in taxes last year?
$18,500~, but the wife and I file jointly. What’s your point?
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Did you give your paycheck this week to a homeless person?
Yeah, I didn't think so
The Billionaires would never give any of their money to anyone at all they are too greedy thats the problem thats why they need to be taxed, take that money away from them and bring it back into economy
Thats why Regan Economics trickle down effect never works, trickle down economics does not work because the billionaires are too greedy for it to work they horde their wealth instead of putting it back into the economy by spending it. they hoard instead of spending. Thats why the money needs to be taken away from the billionaires, by force, using the government.
They have been far too rich for far too long. Its time for our turn.
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When I give $5 to a homeless dude, it’s the equivalent of a billionaire buying him a 4bdr apartment overlooking Central Park...
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Did you give your paycheck this week to a homeless person?
Yeah, I didn't think so
The Billionaires would never give any of their money to anyone at all they are too greedy thats the problem thats why they need to be taxed, take that money away from them and bring it back into economy
Thats why Regan Economics trickle down effect never works, trickle down economics does not work because the billionaires are too greedy for it to work they horde their wealth instead of putting it back into the economy by spending it. they hoard instead of spending. Thats why the money needs to be taken away from the billionaires, by force, using the government.
They have been far too rich for far too long. Its time for our turn.
Look kid, it's time to come to terms that you'll never be a billionaire. Grow up and quit blaming your problems on someone else.
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You are the one who is supporting the billionaires not me. I want to take their money, you want to give them tax breaks.
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If he though he was gonna become a millionaire, why would he advocate taxing the rich?
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The working class never becomes millionaires anymore it’s because the billionaires are hoarding all the wealth
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Working class people convinced that having billionaires is in the own interest. Wow, talk about Stockholm syndrome.
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They promise to be nice to us and give us $8 an hour + we don’t need to worry about filling out any pesky benefits papers.
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Ok, Stalin
Your Communism is showing
(just out of curiosity and not to do with healthcare debate here)
What do you feel about taxes in the form of dollar amount costs? Things like registration on your car for example.
You paying 120 dollars for that registration is a significantly higher percentage of your income than a billionaire. But is it not meant to be effectively a tax?
Back to the healthcare debate though. I feel like when I say I am pro-healthcare the people I am talking to immediately get the belief that I havent looked very deeply into my position. That I am a fool. Things like that. And I guess I am forced to clarify this.... even if it sounds arrogant. But then the problem is I sound arrogant for saying "I have done research. I am not a fool."
So the position you put someone in with that precursor guarantees you victory. Damned if I do damned if I dont. I'm either an idiot or a narcissist.
I simply believe that healthcare is a human right in 2020. We have the means to make people healthy when they are sick. I get that the 2020 rationale in american culture is that healthcare is something you have to work for. I reject that premise.
By the very nature of me thinking we have the means to make people healthy.... I of course also think it is affordable. I think it would also benefit society greatly in other ways outside of just keeping people healthy. You would free up lower classes to do whatever it is they want to do. More could go to school or open a business or travel the world.
And then youve got benefits for the middle class. Someone wouldnt be forced to pick shit job A over good job B because shit job A has the super deluxe healthcare plan. And then once in that position you wouldnt have to stay until medicare kicks in.
But again all of these are just caveats. The thing I believe to be true. I dont know how to say it more simply.
Just like firefighters should be free. Just like cops should be free. I believe healthcare should be free.
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hunt or starve, survive or don't. learn a skill get a good job and pay for your own healthcare or die in a fucking ditch. it's survival of the fittest and if you can't make the cut then another man will wear your boots and fuck your wife.
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But be sure to obey the rules.
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What rules? I ain't got no munee. So wut do I need to follow da rulz fer?
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Pay for your own police, schools, fire department and military security. Stop mooching off other men.
If you can't afford it, too fucking bad. Don't call the police when someone tries to steal your property, learn to defend it like a man and stop mooching off of others to do it for you.
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Yeah! And share the wifey.
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Pay for your own police, schools, fire department and military security. Stop mooching off other men.
If you can't afford it, too fucking bad. Don't call the police when someone tries to steal your property, learn to defend it like a man and stop mooching off of others to do it for you.
Epic fucking post though that ass hat will come back with " i pay my 2000 dollars in taxes every year!" Which honestly if you think about it really puts a dent in the national deficit
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Free health care for all is probably the reason why Bernie Sanders will win the Presidential election of 2020. With this crazy corona virus going on EVERYONE is going to NEED healthcare. If poor people don’t have health care and start getting the corona virus then people with more money might start catching the corona virus from people without healthcare and it will spread even more. So people will vote for Bernie Sanders to help everyone get health care so we can get the corona virus under control.
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Ok, Stalin
Your Communism is showing
(just out of curiosity and not to do with healthcare debate here)
What do you feel about taxes in the form of dollar amount costs? Things like registration on your car for example.
You paying 120 dollars for that registration is a significantly higher percentage of your income than a billionaire. But is it not meant to be effectively a tax?
Back to the healthcare debate though. I feel like when I say I am pro-healthcare the people I am talking to immediately get the belief that I havent looked very deeply into my position. That I am a fool. Things like that. And I guess I am forced to clarify this.... even if it sounds arrogant. But then the problem is I sound arrogant for saying "I have done research. I am not a fool."
So the position you put someone in with that precursor guarantees you victory. Damned if I do damned if I dont. I'm either an idiot or a narcissist.
I simply believe that healthcare is a human right in 2020. We have the means to make people healthy when they are sick. I get that the 2020 rationale in american culture is that healthcare is something you have to work for. I reject that premise.
By the very nature of me thinking we have the means to make people healthy.... I of course also think it is affordable. I think it would also benefit society greatly in other ways outside of just keeping people healthy. You would free up lower classes to do whatever it is they want to do. More could go to school or open a business or travel the world.
And then youve got benefits for the middle class. Someone wouldnt be forced to pick shit job A over good job B because shit job A has the super deluxe healthcare plan. And then once in that position you wouldnt have to stay until medicare kicks in.
But again all of these are just caveats. The thing I believe to be true. I dont know how to say it more simply.
Just like firefighters should be free. Just like cops should be free. I believe healthcare should be free.
What you believe and what is reality are two very different things. I don't know how to say it more simply
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Ok, Stalin
Your Communism is showing
(just out of curiosity and not to do with healthcare debate here)
What do you feel about taxes in the form of dollar amount costs? Things like registration on your car for example.
You paying 120 dollars for that registration is a significantly higher percentage of your income than a billionaire. But is it not meant to be effectively a tax?
Back to the healthcare debate though. I feel like when I say I am pro-healthcare the people I am talking to immediately get the belief that I havent looked very deeply into my position. That I am a fool. Things like that. And I guess I am forced to clarify this.... even if it sounds arrogant. But then the problem is I sound arrogant for saying "I have done research. I am not a fool."
So the position you put someone in with that precursor guarantees you victory. Damned if I do damned if I dont. I'm either an idiot or a narcissist.
I simply believe that healthcare is a human right in 2020. We have the means to make people healthy when they are sick. I get that the 2020 rationale in american culture is that healthcare is something you have to work for. I reject that premise.
By the very nature of me thinking we have the means to make people healthy.... I of course also think it is affordable. I think it would also benefit society greatly in other ways outside of just keeping people healthy. You would free up lower classes to do whatever it is they want to do. More could go to school or open a business or travel the world.
And then youve got benefits for the middle class. Someone wouldnt be forced to pick shit job A over good job B because shit job A has the super deluxe healthcare plan. And then once in that position you wouldnt have to stay until medicare kicks in.
But again all of these are just caveats. The thing I believe to be true. I dont know how to say it more simply.
Just like firefighters should be free. Just like cops should be free. I believe healthcare should be free.
I simply believe that free beer is a human right in 2020. We have the means to make beer when people are thirsty. I get that the 2020 rationale in American culture is that beer is something that I have to work for. I reject that premise.
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I bet that sounded really good in your head 
You seem to be missing the crux of my rebuttal.
Cant you use this SAME line of rhetoric if Police weren't free and I was arguing to make them free?
"Wow you want police to be free? Next youll want free beer! What a dumbass! He just doesnt get it!"
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You seem to be missing the crux of my rebuttal.
Cant you use this SAME line of rhetoric if Police weren't free and I was arguing to make them free?
"Wow you want police to be free? Next youll want free beer! What a dumbass! He just doesnt get it!"
Poor kid, you live in a fantasy world inside your head, completely separate from reality
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Okay? And how would we scientifically prove which of us is living in this fantasy world? Is it possible you are the one living in the fantasy world? Or is it just me that could possibly be in it?
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Let’s see... Highest min wage in the country is in NYC($15). A shitty apartment will run you $1500. Add phone, internet, electric, gas - that makes it $2,000. $15x40h=600/week. Let’s say you’d pay only 15% in taxes (though reality is more like 20-30%) - you end up with $510/week or 2040 a month.
How much food, clothing, healthcare, etc. do you think $10/month buys? How many in-demand skills can you learn for free?
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Lowest minimum wage is in Louisiana ($7.25). A shitty apartment will run you $700. Add phone, internet, blah blah - that makes $1200. $7.25x40h=$290/week. After 15% tax, that’s $1,116.50 a month
How much healthcare can you buy for -$83.50?
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The USA is the RICHEST country on this planet. No country on this earth has more money than the USA. Don’t tell me we can’t afford health care for all. How many billions and trillions of dollars have we WASTED on multiple pointless wars on the Middle East. You are a liar if you say the USA can’t afford health care for all. Don’t you fucking DARE tell me the USA can’t afford health care for all.
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The problem is that Bernie wants free everything and he believes fast food worker's deserve 15$ a hour. Those job's are for uneducated young people. As soon as you raise min wages up like that the prices on everything goes up! He also rants about assault weapons and how he's going to ban them. He rants about how we have military weapons but in reality fully automatic weapons aren't available to the public. He also rants about how we need background checks when we've ALWAYS had strict background checks! He claims he's going to give us free college and that he's some how going to tax wallstreet. You watch we'll be the ones paying for it! If we do end up paying for it we'll be throwing money down the drain because college has a 30% success rate. He just seems to talk out of his ass. He knows he's full of shit when it comes to guns and he knows he's full of shit when it comes to the 15$ a hour bullshit. He's just telling young people what they want to hear to get votes!
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I actually think universal healthcare is a good idea but some of his other ideas are absolutely horrible. He's not going to beat trump so it really doesn't matter..
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Haha that’s such a stupid argument against min wage...”min wage jobs are for uneducated young people. If we raise it, ALL prices will skyrocket.”...then why would prices rise so much lol?
Think about it. If minimum wage only applies to high school students and entry-level people, why would raising it cause such massive price changes?
Either a lot of people are working at minimum wage, or raising it won’t effect prices by much. You can’t have it both ways...if you use logic, that is
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Think about it. If minimum wage only applies to high school students and entry-level people, why would raising it cause such massive price changes?
Either a lot of people are working at minimum wage, or raising it won’t effect prices by much. You can’t have it both ways...if you use logic, that is
Yes prices will go up! 15$ won't actually be 15$ anymore! It's common sense. What I should have said is that those jobs should be for young people! If you're over 25 and making min wage then it's time to stop being lazy and go get a skill! You're not supposed to raise a family working at McDonald's .. EMT'S, some cops, factory workers and many other important job's don't even make 15$ a hour! Do you really think a McDonald's worker deserves more than a EMT!? It's fucking ridiculous lol.
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I think they both deserve a raise. It’s impossible to survive on the current min wage, as I showed in this thread. It’s impossible whether you live in NYC where McDonald’s workers already get $15/h, or in the lowers min-wage state, where they make $7.25.
Btw, I’m in Brooklyn and prices didn’t spike much after NYC raised the min wage from $8 to $15.
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Btw, I’m in Brooklyn and prices didn’t spike much after NYC raised the min wage from $8 to $15.
Price's will go up if the whole country raises it! I'm not just saying that to be difficult, it's the truth! 15$ a hour isn't the same in Brooklyn as it is in Ohio. Min wage should be decided by the state not the federal government because the value of the dollar is different depending on where you live. You're not supposed to live off of min wage jobs! Min wage jobs are for people getting started without a skill! It will also harm a lot of small businesses.
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Ok, so imagine you’re poor. I know it’s impossible, but just try.
You graduated HS, and went to work. You start at min wage. Please outline how a McDonalds worker can gain in-demand skills in this situation. Remember, you’re poor. You can’t go to college, you have no spare time except the weekend, and your current job doesn’t allow you to save any (as I already showed).
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You graduated HS, and went to work. You start at min wage. Please outline how a McDonalds worker can gain in-demand skills in this situation. Remember, you’re poor. You can’t go to college, you have no spare time except the weekend, and your current job doesn’t allow you to save any (as I already showed).
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Take out 35k of student loans and go through the 9 month Hobart welding school. 25k for school and 10k to pay for rent and food. Get a part time job to help pay for extra shit. Learn how to pass x-ray welding tests. This should help you get into the 5 year pipefitters union apprenticeship. They pay for all your education and pay you good money. You finish the program and make more money than people with master degrees. I also know people that joined other trades that are making killer money. It just takes hard work and sacrifice! Most people are poor because they're lazy. You're supposed to apply for better jobs if you're working for min wage. There's a million different ways you can better yourself.
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Hahaha loans? Cmon, at least try.
You’re poor, man. Ain’t no one giving you a 50k loan. Your credit is in the shitter and your income is minimum wage.
Million different ways to better yourself if you’re not at rock bottom...
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You’re poor, man. Ain’t no one giving you a 50k loan. Your credit is in the shitter and your income is minimum wage.
Million different ways to better yourself if you’re not at rock bottom...
Are you high out of your mind? Do you realise how easy it is to get student loans! If what your saying is true then how did me and all of my friends get student loans right after high school? You're seriously just talking out of your ass.
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You’re poor, man. Ain’t no one giving you a 50k loan. Your credit is in the shitter and your income is minimum wage.
Million different ways to better yourself if you’re not at rock bottom...
Liberal here. Not a republican and I'm very pro bernie. But I will say this point youre making isnt accurate on some levels.
A poor person can get the pellgrant for 2 years and go to a community college for free. If they are poor enough they can even get some extra money on top (not much). Plus they give student loans out to anyone with a heart beat. Its a HUGE scam. Even filing bankruptcy you cant get out of student loans. My mom left the country 15 years ago and is still paying her student loans. Literally from another country. Forcibly. Lol.
After that though if they follow everyone else and get a business admin degree they wont get anywhere. If they get a proper trade they can escape poverty. Most americans dont know though that they should get a trade. So we definitely need better direction and education. Really though this kind of a thing only comes from lineage so if your parents are shit and your families shit then youre gonna be shit too 90 percent of the time.
But this doesnt mean we shouldnt have healthcare for all. We still should. And higher education of all kinds should have some sort of public option available. Maybe a subpar option but atleast an option.
Public education is the craziest part for me when it comes to republicans. How can they defend Highschool and below but tell you youre a commy bastard for suggesting college lol?
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You’re poor, man. Ain’t no one giving you a 50k loan. Your credit is in the shitter and your income is minimum wage.
Million different ways to better yourself if you’re not at rock bottom...
Are you high out of your mind? Do you realise how easy it is to get student loans! If what your saying is true then how did me and all of my friends get student loans right after high school? You're seriously just talking out of your ass.
You still had credit when you graduated HS? That just means you weren’t poor. I’m asking you to pretend.
I tried getting a student loan at 24 and was denied🤷🏻♂️ Too much credit card debt.
Whatever happened to “a million ways” to get out from rock bottom? Are they all different grants and loans? Cause that’s still just 1 way.
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You’re poor, man. Ain’t no one giving you a 50k loan. Your credit is in the shitter and your income is minimum wage.
Million different ways to better yourself if you’re not at rock bottom...
Are you high out of your mind? Do you realise how easy it is to get student loans! If what your saying is true then how did me and all of my friends get student loans right after high school? You're seriously just talking out of your ass.
You still had credit when you graduated HS? That just means you weren’t poor. I’m asking you to pretend.
I tried getting a student loan at 24 and was denied🤷🏻♂️ Too much credit card debt.
Whatever happened to “a million ways” to get out from rock bottom? Are they all different grants and loans? Cause that’s still just 1 way.
Pellgrant. It completely pays for 2 years of community college including some extra spending money. If youre really poor the spending money is as much as $1000 for each of the two years.
But this doesnt make you wrong about healthcare. Just about the college thing.
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You’re poor, man. Ain’t no one giving you a 50k loan. Your credit is in the shitter and your income is minimum wage.
Million different ways to better yourself if you’re not at rock bottom...
Are you high out of your mind? Do you realise how easy it is to get student loans! If what your saying is true then how did me and all of my friends get student loans right after high school? You're seriously just talking out of your ass.
You still had credit when you graduated HS? That just means you weren’t poor. I’m asking you to pretend.
I tried getting a student loan at 24 and was denied🤷🏻♂️ Too much credit card debt.
Whatever happened to “a million ways” to get out from rock bottom? Are they all different grants and loans? Cause that’s still just 1 way.
Pellgrant. It completely pays for 2 years of community college including some extra spending money. If youre really poor the spending money is as much as $1000 for each of the two years.
But this doesnt make you wrong about healthcare. Just about the college thing.
So you propose people survive on $1000? If they work weekends, that’s 16h at $7.25 = about $300 per month. Please tell me how you can rent, eat and dress yourself for $1,300/month.
Not to mention that most people would need the weekends to study. It’s not laziness - some people just have a hard time at school.
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Not to mention that most people would need the weekends to study. It’s not laziness - some people just have a hard time at school.
They'd have to go to school and work. In the states most people I knew in college with me were working full time jobs or had their way paved by their parents. Since I've been overseas the norm is working just weekends while in college.
Its definitely doable to do both. It sucks but its doable. But now ask this.... how are they gonna pay for healthcare while they go to school? And THATS the point.
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And another thing these Republicans dont understand.
They think "Oh if youre poor just get a better job and work harder". They dont realize that there will ALWAYS be minimum wage jobs. SOMEONE has to do them. They act like this tiny percentage of low paying work is enough to be worked by just 18-22 year olds. When in reality there are shit loads of people making starving wages.
If every single person on earth turned into you. Lets say you are very successful. But now every person on earth is you with your same thoughts and ambitions and skills. What percentage of america wouldnt have healthcare? What percentage would be living paycheck to paycheck?
Can you really say 0? Can you even say 25 percent?
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Not to mention that most people would need the weekends to study. It’s not laziness - some people just have a hard time at school.
They'd have to go to school and work. In the states most people I knew in college with me were working full time jobs or had their way paved by their parents. Since I've been overseas the norm is working just weekends while in college.
Its definitely doable to do both. It sucks but its doable. But now ask this.... how are they gonna pay for healthcare while they go to school? And THATS the point.
Look, it’s great that some people are smart enough to study on the bus. And it’s great that some people can work 8 hours after 5 hours of lectures/labs.
But this is NOT true for the average American, much less the poor American. Poor kids do worse in school, they get less attention from teachers and usually have less parents as well.
There’s a reason why an 8h work day is the norm. We, as a society, deemed that anything more is unhealthy and torturous. Yet we’re cool with putting our kids through it?
I worked FT through college...would never wish that on my kid, regardless of the alternative. They were supposed to be the best years of my life, but they became some of the worst.
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Not to mention that most people would need the weekends to study. It’s not laziness - some people just have a hard time at school.
They'd have to go to school and work. In the states most people I knew in college with me were working full time jobs or had their way paved by their parents. Since I've been overseas the norm is working just weekends while in college.
Its definitely doable to do both. It sucks but its doable. But now ask this.... how are they gonna pay for healthcare while they go to school? And THATS the point.
Look, it’s great that some people are smart enough to study on the bus. And it’s great that some people can work 8 hours after 5 hours of lectures/labs.
But this is NOT true for the average American, much less the poor American. Poor kids do worse in school, they get less attention from teachers and usually have less parents as well.
There’s a reason why an 8h work day is the norm. We, as a society, deemed that anything more is unhealthy and torturous. Yet we’re cool with putting our kids through it?
I worked FT through college...would never wish that on my kid, regardless of the alternative. They were supposed to be the best years of my life, but they became some of the worst.
Youre moving the goalpost here. Its doable.
Dont be moving the goalpost it just shows youre incapable of being wrong. Dont give these Republicans an easy target.
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Pfff no I’m not, I’m supporting my original statement.
A poor American has no means of moving up from minimum wage to a skilled job, without external help.
Where did I move the goalposts?
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A poor American has no means of moving up from minimum wage to a skilled job, without external help.
Where did I move the goalposts?
I'm sorry man but youre very clearly moving the goalpost.
First you asked how a poor person gets in demand skills while pointing out the math of earnings vs costs.
Now youre saying some poor people couldnt cut it working 40 hour weeks and 20 hours school.
Thats a goalpost move. I dont want to argue with each change of your goalposts until we come to a final resting place of "i guess we are both right". I want you to say "fuck my bad I didnt know about the pellgrant" and then we move on.
Its healthier for everyone including the advancement of your beliefs and opinions.
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It’s an argument that supports my original statement in the context of your rebuke.
If I changed my original statement, that’d be moving the goal posts...
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If I changed my original statement, that’d be moving the goal posts...
Another crushing blow for mankind. Goodjob. Even in an anonymous post on a forum no one cares about you cannot admit to being wrong on the most basic simple thing.
How are you gonna convince a Republican they are wrong?
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All I’m waiting for is for when people stretch out the resources so greatly that I can finally open my suicide net business and start making some easy money. We got rid of 8 hours, we got rid of benefits, we got rid of overtime, we’re fastly getting rid of propery ownership, people are always down to their last dollar and can never rest easy, shit is crumbling apart in the city and out in the country. Everything is right on track with making this life not even worth living. It shouldn’t be long before I can open my doors. I just watch China to see where this market is headed.
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If I changed my original statement, that’d be moving the goal posts...
Another crushing blow for mankind. Goodjob. Even in an anonymous post on a forum no one cares about you cannot admit to being wrong on the most basic simple thing.
How are you gonna convince a Republican they are wrong?
You’re the one who’s bitching instead of formulating a response to what I actually said.
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If I changed my original statement, that’d be moving the goal posts...
Another crushing blow for mankind. Goodjob. Even in an anonymous post on a forum no one cares about you cannot admit to being wrong on the most basic simple thing.
How are you gonna convince a Republican they are wrong?
You’re the one who’s bitching instead of formulating a response to what I actually said.
Ladies and gentlemen anon 29 was never wrong once! But anon 24 was! Hurray for anon 29!
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Anonymous #29 said: I think they both deserve a raise. It’s impossible to survive on the current min wage, as I showed in this thread. It’s impossible whether you live in NYC where McDonald’s workers already get $15/h, or in the lowers min-wage state, where they make $7.25.
Btw, I’m in Brooklyn and prices didn’t spike much after NYC raised the min wage from $8 to $15.
Price's will go up if the whole country raises it! I'm not just saying that to be difficult, it's the truth! 15$ a hour isn't the same in Brooklyn as it is in Ohio. Min wage should be decided by the state not the federal government because the value of the dollar is different depending on where you live. You're not supposed to live off of min wage jobs! Min wage jobs are for people getting started without a skill! It will also harm a lot of small businesses.
Why will "prices go up"? What will cost more exactly and for what reason?
Can I ask you exactly, what difference does if the business owner makes more of the profit or the worker makes more of a wage? It's the same money, why is it problematic if the workers gets it, yet you have no issue if the business owner takes that same dollar home.
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Business owner is going to have to come up with that additional wage, so everything in the store just went up $1.
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No, that's not true at all. You're falsely assuming there's zero profit and 100% of revenue goes to expenses that includes wages. Do you understand how a business works? There's varying degrees of profit margins and pricing power in a competitive market place.
It's very possible a business owner can't hike prices, pays the employee more and makes a smaller profit margin.
The point is, many different things can happen. Just making broad generalizations on the issue serves no purpose.
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So you would be happier if poor people who worked jobs were actual slaves and did not get paid money at all? You can’t say that out loud of course but that’s basically what you want. You want the greedy business owner to have all the money and you want the workers to be literal slaves and not get paid at all. Is that what it would take to finally make you happy! Literal slaves? You just love taking and taking and you want poor people to have nothing:
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So you would be happier if poor people who worked jobs were actual slaves and did not get paid money at all? You can’t say that out loud of course but that’s basically what you want. You want the greedy business owner to have all the money and you want the workers to be literal slaves and not get paid at all. Is that what it would take to finally make you happy! Literal slaves? You just love taking and taking and you want poor people to have nothing:
He doesn't even understand basic economics, he only repeats talking points from the billionaires he worships for some strange reason.
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No. Bernie Sander is not a billionaire. A millionaire but not a billionaire.
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And he’s only a millionaire because he put out a best-selling book in 2016. He wasn’t a millionaire before that election.
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No, that's not true at all. You're falsely assuming there's zero profit and 100% of revenue goes to expenses that includes wages. Do you understand how a business works? There's varying degrees of profit margins and pricing power in a competitive market place.
It's very possible a business owner can't hike prices, pays the employee more and makes a smaller profit margin.
The point is, many different things can happen. Just making broad generalizations on the issue serves no purpose.
No, I’m assuming owner has to make his (or her) yacht payments on time. You and I both know it’s going to balance out somehow. It also means someone is getting layed off so more work is headed to the two employees lucky enough to not be #3 so I’m going to need you guys to step it up and get all this shit knocked out by 5. If you ain’t good enough to do it I’ll find someone who is, old man.
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That’s not what happened in places where they raised min wage though. In NY, it went from $8 to $15!! That’s almost double! That same year, job growth was typical, and it actually picked up pace the following year.
Why rely on fallacious hypotheses, when the experiment has already been conducted and reproduced multiple times?
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Yeah we’ll see. I’m sure Walmart will be fine either way.
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No, that's not true at all. You're falsely assuming there's zero profit and 100% of revenue goes to expenses that includes wages. Do you understand how a business works? There's varying degrees of profit margins and pricing power in a competitive market place.
It's very possible a business owner can't hike prices, pays the employee more and makes a smaller profit margin.
The point is, many different things can happen. Just making broad generalizations on the issue serves no purpose.
No, I’m assuming owner has to make his (or her) yacht payments on time. You and I both know it’s going to balance out somehow. It also means someone is getting layed off so more work is headed to the two employees lucky enough to not be #3 so I’m going to need you guys to step it up and get all this shit knocked out by 5. If you ain’t good enough to do it I’ll find someone who is, old man.
What's going to balance out?
And no, why would someone get layed off? Companies only keep profitable employees. You need to demonstrate that a higher wage makes that employee unprofitable. In many cases, companies pay $12 per hour but could afford to pay them $20 and still be highly profitable.
You clearly don't understand how business and profit margins work.
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I’m pretty sure I do. I’m pretty sure I know the endgame as well. Right or wrong we’ll see, we have plenty of examples to take note of.
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Anonymous #29 said: Hahaha loans? Cmon, at least try.
You’re poor, man. Ain’t no one giving you a 50k loan. Your credit is in the shitter and your income is minimum wage.
Million different ways to better yourself if you’re not at rock bottom...
Are you high out of your mind? Do you realise how easy it is to get student loans! If what your saying is true then how did me and all of my friends get student loans right after high school? You're seriously just talking out of your ass.
You still had credit when you graduated HS? That just means you weren’t poor. I’m asking you to pretend.
I tried getting a student loan at 24 and was denied🤷🏻♂️ Too much credit card debt.
Whatever happened to “a million ways” to get out from rock bottom? Are they all different grants and loans? Cause that’s still just 1 way.
LMAO! No wonder you can't get student loans! I wouldn't give you any money! You sound extremely immature and you don't sound responsible at all. Like someone else already said you're making the left look really bad on here. Hell you're even making shroomery.org look bad . There's nothing I hate more than a person that wont admit they're wrong. Even if I was on the left I would tell you to shut up . I would go more into detail about what I think is wrong with you but it would get me kicked off of shroomery.
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“More” details? All you did was ramble nonsense for a bit.
Anything to avoid replying on-topic because you know you have no legit arguments...
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Examples of what? Companies that are forced to give higher wages due to a variety of different reasons and still make shareholders plenty of profits.
What's the difference if it's natural labor market forces or mandated wages by government? It still has the same impact on the business and profit margins.
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Do yourself a favor and stay away from mushrooms !!! My god I almost feel sorry for you.
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Again, 0 actual arguments.
You think your post reads smart? Cause it really reads “I have nothing to say but I’m still angry so BLAH”
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I'm sorry man but youre very clearly moving the goalpost.
First you asked how a poor person gets in demand skills while pointing out the math of earnings vs costs.
Now youre saying some poor people couldnt cut it working 40 hour weeks and 20 hours school.
Thats a goalpost move
you're feldman aren't you
literally every argument i've seen feldman in he accuses the other guy at least once that he "moved the goal posts"
you must really like goal posts feldman
I bet when you dream you see lots of goal posts
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I'm sorry man but youre very clearly moving the goalpost.
First you asked how a poor person gets in demand skills while pointing out the math of earnings vs costs.
Now youre saying some poor people couldnt cut it working 40 hour weeks and 20 hours school.
Thats a goalpost move
you're feldman aren't you
literally every argument i've seen feldman in he accuses the other guy at least once that he "moved the goal posts"
you must really like goal posts feldman
I bet when you dream you see lots of goal posts
I am not feldman. This guy moved the goalpost so I said he moved the goalposts. Youre looking for something that you want to be there I think.
Lotsa people talk about goalposts moving. Its a common tactic used in debate. People dont wanna seem wrong so meeting in the middle feels better.
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I'm sorry man but youre very clearly moving the goalpost.
First you asked how a poor person gets in demand skills while pointing out the math of earnings vs costs.
Now youre saying some poor people couldnt cut it working 40 hour weeks and 20 hours school.
Thats a goalpost move
you're feldman aren't you
literally every argument i've seen feldman in he accuses the other guy at least once that he "moved the goal posts"
you must really like goal posts feldman
I bet when you dream you see lots of goal posts
I am not feldman. This guy moved the goalpost so I said he moved the goalposts. Youre looking for something that you want to be there I think.
Lotsa people talk about goalposts moving. Its a common tactic used in debate. People dont wanna seem wrong so meeting in the middle feels better.
i like goal posts
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I like fixed position goalposts. Unless we at the arcade. Den I enjoy dat basketball shooting game where the goalposts be movin. I win all the tickets. I buy the gumball machine.
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I dunno which anon I am.
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You're the anon with the star on its belly, Sneetch.
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why hate at all?
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I think all people hate on some level.
Even if it is hating haters.
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i like goal posts
Me too, buddy. They give me a defined point to strive to.
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same here Libs are fucking retards..... they say russia russia russia then wana elect Bernie what a bunch of burnt out morons....
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Joe Biden is far worse than Bernie Sanders. He already talked about how he's going to take the guns from the people. He's extremely dangerous and yes the libs are fucking retarded these day's.
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Anonymous #1 said: I know many who visit this site are liberals and don't want to piss people off. Although president Trump is guilty of quid pro quo, you fuckers have been out to get him since day one. You let the fucking media think for you and never dare to think for yourselves. So to get it off my chest, Fuck you!!!
If you believe all this liberal/conservative bullshit puppet show, then you're dumber than a second coat of paint. The entire system's a fucking salesman good guy/bad guy routine. Divide and conquer you fucking moron.
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Anonymous #1 said: I know many who visit this site are liberals and don't want to piss people off. Although president Trump is guilty of quid pro quo, you fuckers have been out to get him since day one. You let the fucking media think for you and never dare to think for yourselves. So to get it off my chest, Fuck you!!!
If you believe all this liberal/conservative bullshit puppet show, then you're dumber than a second coat of paint. The entire system's a fucking salesman good guy/bad guy routine. Divide and conquer you fucking moron.

I remember when I was on the fence a decade ago. It feels empowering doesnt it? Sense of superiority?
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Hell no. More like sad as fuck. People might be blind and sheep but that’s our fucking brothers and sisters out there. They are not the enemy. Their bullshit programming is. We gots to do our best to be patient and shake them out the fevered dream they are having. We gots to help them too homeboy.
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Them being blind and sheep would make them.... inferior to you right? 
Its easy to sit on the fence. I remember thinking how obvious it must be the answer. But I outgrew that.
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Right on point though.
You sound like someone with a raging superiority complex
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Most of the people who disagree with you do not support themselves, not have had much if any experience in the real world workforce,have never run a business or been entirely self sufficient, but somehow they think they know it all
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You sound like someone with a raging superiority complex
Yeah...
Sorry to tell you dear; you missed the point.
Not even close.
But you can keep trying though.
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How can someone ever not lose talking to you if you dont care?
Self-fulfilling prophecy. You arent enlightened youre just a run of the mill conspiracy theorist.
But keep saying we dont get it and throwing the popcorn eating. Its super cool that you dont care bro. Its definitely not that we have all been where you are and moved past it. Definitely not that.
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Damn that’s a lot of sentences.
You are really trying huh.
I’m very flattered sweetcheeks.
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You are really trying huh.
I’m very flattered sweetcheeks.

Nice one. Look I even quoted you in this one too. I'll respond to each and every reply with more sentences. I did the troll thing for years too. I'm stubborn as an ox. Not to mention bored as fuck in the middle of no where.
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So eager.
A lot of compliments too.
Okay now you’re losing me...
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A lot of compliments too.
Okay now you’re losing me...

Whats wrong?
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Being a liberal used to have such a different meaning in the past. The USA has been going crazy recently. I’m a democrat but I no longer consider myself a liberal after such a huge shift has occurred recently.
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I stopped being a Democrat because of how crazy they've become. The Republicans are now what the Democrats use to be and the Democrats have become immoral and insane. They no longer care about facts or evidence it's all about how they feel ..
In a way I wish we would have a civil war and destroy the radical left. They're trying to take our freedoms peace by peace. It's all because they're a bunch of losers that have never accomplished anything. They want to play the victim card instead of taking responsibility for their own lives...
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Does anyone think Trump should have another 4 years? He did a really good job these last 4 years with foreign policy and the economy. I loved the part where he said "if you had any other President instead of me for 4 years there would have been a warm. I stopped that. I did all that." I really hate the idea of a Democratic President being in office and would vote for Trump again just to spite the left side. Trump has done a really great job making America great again. Don't you think? I love how he supports other races. I am being honest to god Trump is a fantastic guy.
Oh yes and of course black lives matter. Also Mexican lives matter.
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Oh yes and of course black lives matter. Also Mexican lives matter.
I'm personally voting for trump. Joe Biden wants to do a gun ban. I'm literally willing to fight to the death to prevent him from taking our right to protect ourselves and our family's. Fuck that guy and fuck the left !!! The problem isn't religious people anymore it's the far left. They need to be destroyed.
This same shit happened thousands of years ago in Rome. They got soft and it completely destroyed them. If we don't do something about the radical left the same thing is going to happen to us.
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Trump actually did prevent a war and no one gives him credit for it. The economy was doing great until the virus. Of course the left never want's to talk about it. Joe Biden literally sexually assaulted a woman and the media didn't even talk about it.
The media is being controlled by some of the richest people on the planet. If trump was actually being controlled by the rich they wouldn't be saying negative things about him on the news channels. It's joe Biden that's working for the rulers of the planet. I wish other people understood that Biden is a lifetime politician and he's being controlled...
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Oh yes and of course black lives matter. Also Mexican lives matter.
Trump didn't do crap for the economy other than getting Wall Street rich. The rest of the folk going down the tubes.
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How is it you lefties can be so consistently wrong? Your little echo chambers have slowly led you to a fantasy land of absurdity. The social unrest is you trying to mash your fantasy reality into actual reality, square hole circle peg style and you’re going into a tantrum with a hammer trying to make it fit. It will never fit. Everything far left is failure and destruction. You need to step back and take a sober look at it. It’s got to be difficult to come to terms with the fact that everything you’ve been fed is fantasy bullshit but you’re going to have to accept that. This isn’t a movie.
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Black lives matter say they care about black lives but in a week they killled atleast two in the chaz zone and one in critical condition all black. Black lives matter did that when they were given responsibility over the autonomous zone. Fucking animals that just want to kill and loot. If this turns into a civil war the radical left will be annihilated by the patriots. They are far outnumbered and outgunned.
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Well for sure. That's why the patriots are just sitting on the sidelines and letting the BLM gang push it further and further. The left thinks it's winning, but in fact it's walking into a very deadly trap. The left is greedy and cocky now, but that will be their ultimate downfall. The people pushing the left into this direction know very well what's going to happen, the people in it won't realize it until it's too late.
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There is not going to be any civil war. The government went and raided that CHOP zone with zero casualties. Just a bunch of vocal bullshit is all it is. That is it. The government sucks as usual but "oh we will liberate our country liberally and all will feel liberated we will spark the flame and burn down the oppressors" and blah blah blah
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The media is being controlled by some of the richest people on the planet. If trump was actually being controlled by the rich they wouldn't be saying negative things about him on the news channels. It's joe Biden that's working for the rulers of the planet. I wish other people understood that Biden is a lifetime politician and he's being controlled...
The Trump Administration is still nonchalantly drifting towards a war with Iran (which isn't just some pissant concept a nation that the British literally drew in the sand) and even before that they'd been advocating for the use of nuclear weapons on the premise that people should quit being pussies.
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anything far left or far right is total garbage and should be removed from society. politically radical people are just the fucking worst.
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anything far left or far right is total garbage and should be removed from society. politically radical people are just the fucking worst.
Yep I'm with you
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anything far left or far right is total garbage and should be removed from society. politically radical people are just the fucking worst.
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It’s about time the more rational sector of the population take a day off and beat these fanatics back into their place.
You people who sit on the sidelines without taking offense to all the atrocities by the far left are just as bad. You dont have to be right or left to see these people are anti American scum.
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Who is it that’s burning businesses and tearing down statues again? These riots going on have looked rather “left”. If you’ll notice though it’s all college kids with no life experience because they’re the only ones ignorant enough to buy into all this bullshit.
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yea, the far left is cancer. i know you guys have below average reading comprehension since your representatives cut your school budget, but i've stated that poltiically radical people on either side are the fucking worst. there are right wingers who have committed mass shootings and incited violence on social media, dont think the right wing's hands are clean. either side shows no interest in improving the country, only bringing down the other person and turning a profit from it.
read the post twice so you can understand something.
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Don’t go getting your skinny jeans in a bunch now.
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Anonymous #39
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no worries here. come back when you have something of substance to add.
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Anonymous #7
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I may wait a few days for you to get off your period because I must say, you’re a bit snippy.
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The good things about the left is trying to get more social programs installed into the cities.
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i think there are good things about both sides, but there are more bad things about both sides than good, both of them want to divide and conquer.
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Anonymous #7 said: How is it you lefties can be so consistently wrong? Your little echo chambers have slowly led you to a fantasy land of absurdity. The social unrest is you trying to mash your fantasy reality into actual reality, square hole circle peg style and you’re going into a tantrum with a hammer trying to make it fit. It will never fit. Everything far left is failure and destruction. You need to step back and take a sober look at it. It’s got to be difficult to come to terms with the fact that everything you’ve been fed is fantasy bullshit but you’re going to have to accept that. This isn’t a movie.
anything far left or far right is total garbage and should be removed from society. politically radical people are just the fucking worst.
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It’s about time the more rational sector of the population take a day off and beat these fanatics back into their place.
You people who sit on the sidelines without taking offense to all the atrocities by the far left are just as bad. You dont have to be right or left to see these people are anti American scum.
Oh believe me I am not indifferent to the far left. I loathe the far left.
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I am a liberal. And, I love you, man. It's gonna be alright.
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As a European, we think all of you Americans are crazy Yall politicized everything to the point you don't even know what is politics and what is common decency. But its kind of nice, because at least now you are so preoccupied with each other we can take a breather from your wars 
But I do hope you get your shit together enough for your children to not be fucked up.
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Anonymous #42 said: But I do hope you get your shit together enough for your children to not be fucked up.
Nope, after we're done fucking up our children we're going to come for yours and fuck them up too. This way we're all one big fucked up family.
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Anonymous #42 said: As a European, we think all of you Americans are crazy Yall politicized everything to the point you don't even know what is politics and what is common decency. But its kind of nice, because at least now you are so preoccupied with each other we can take a breather from your wars 
But I do hope you get your shit together enough for your children to not be fucked up.
Get ready for those wars again.
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