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Schroomfairy
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Oat help
#26392507 - 12/20/19 01:51 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have the horse oats from the TSC.. when preparing my oats they never come out perfect. They mostly split and get mushy when sitting. Iβll describe what Iβm doing and would like to see if anyone has a better way of doing things..
2 cups oats and place in a large pot. I fill with water half way and place on stove on max heat. When I start to see bubbles from it boiling, I remove off of stove, place a lid on it and let it sit for 20 min. Then let drain for a few hours. Then place in fridge overnight. Then place in jars and PC.
Each time I do it I have inconsistencies.
Thank you for reading and your feedback.
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I've been using oats for a few months now, making batches about every two weeks, so I'm not super experienced, but I just followed BOD's Easy AF Oat prep tek to a T from the start and my oats seem great and are growing good mushrooms!
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Personally, I bring water to a boil, take off burner, pour in oats, cover. Let sit for 45 min. Pour into strainer and let drip for awhile. Put in fridge overnight next day, ready to go. I feel like bringing the oats to a boil and then letting them hydrate to long and causing issues.
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Crackatoa said: I feel like bringing the oats to a boil and then letting them hydrate to long and causing issues.

Agreed. Just follow bods tek n stick to the 30-45 min range. After bringing it up to a boil reduce the heat to low. It should still boil.
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I like to dump oats in boiling then bring them back to a boil then shut off the heat cover and let them sit for 10 to 35 mins checking regularly for doneness. Usually check by cutting them in half and checking the color of the centers. With oats they are easy to over cook because the hull will hide bursting grains Dont look for the first burst grains like with other grain prep instead cut them open and check regularly.
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Re: Oat help [Re: gizmo1]
#26392722 - 12/20/19 04:17 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ive been using the other TEK where you put your oats in a pot, and then in a seperate pot boil enough water to cover the oats by at least an inch or two (usually double amount of water compared to oats, so if you are doing 6 quarts oats, Ill do 12 quarts water to boil). Once it boils I just throw the boiling water in the pot with oats, cover with a lid and let it sit for 12 hours or so... then drain it, pour the oats on to cookie sheets and let it dry for another 12 hours, and next day they are ready to jar up and PC and ive never had an issue doing this as ive gone through 2 50lb bags without issues. Always comes out relatively dry, but hydrated. Works like a charm and that way theres no overcooking it.
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I'd try the recipe Caps posted...1 cup oats 1/3 cup boiling water..let sir for an hour or 2 and pc. I usually soak my oats for 24 hours and then dry em until they're at the proper moisture level and load em up.
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Check out my tek
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chinaman9 said: I've been using oats for a few months now, making batches about every two weeks, so I'm not super experienced, but I just followed BOD's Easy AF Oat prep tek to a T from the start and my oats seem great and are growing good mushrooms!
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Thanks everyone, especially my boy Crackatoa. I will try a few different options... I think my high altitude may play a factor.
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gizmo1 said: Oats fkin suck.
Wheat is the motherfuckin shit.
Almost no down side to wbs besides lack of consistency and can be sort of dirty.
Popcorn... I see no reason to use it.
Rye is all right but price sucks.
Cracked corn works but gets sticky if you dont know what you are doimg.
I've gone through atleast 100lb of each of these grains With wbs and oats more far more than 100 lbs. The only exception Is popcorn I didn't use it much.
I've learned alot using different grains. Next grain I will try is barley. Gotta burn through a couple 100lbs of stocked up oats first.
By far my favorite is wheat. Easiest to prep, Cleanest(especially food grade), most uniform, smells great and most importantly mushrooms love wheat. Try them you wont regret it.
no idea why the hate for oats came out on another thread, but they work great!
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Re: Oat help [Re: Dr.Dank] 1
#26393222 - 12/20/19 09:59 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Canna-bliss1 said:
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gizmo1 said: Oats fkin suck.
Wheat is the motherfuckin shit.
Almost no down side to wbs besides lack of consistency and can be sort of dirty.
Popcorn... I see no reason to use it.
Rye is all right but price sucks.
Cracked corn works but gets sticky if you dont know what you are doimg.
I've gone through atleast 100lb of each of these grains With wbs and oats more far more than 100 lbs. The only exception Is popcorn I didn't use it much.
I've learned alot using different grains. Next grain I will try is barley. Gotta burn through a couple 100lbs of stocked up oats first.
By far my favorite is wheat. Easiest to prep, Cleanest(especially food grade), most uniform, smells great and most importantly mushrooms love wheat. Try them you wont regret it.
no idea why the hate for oats came out on another thread, but they work great!
I do hate them but this thread is not about my opinion on them. I posted to help another member out I left my feelings at the door. Maybe you should too bud. Just so you know I have my reasons for hating oats it's not because they are "cheap and work" it's because they are the dirtiest grains I have worked with, the hull hides what's really going on with the grain during prep and they require much more time sterilizing than other grains that I've used. With wbs as well as many other grains I can easily get away with 1 to 1.5 hours. With oats at 2 hours there is still no guarantee they will be clean. I have to go atleast that long. And trust me I've tried them prepped many different ways it's not my prep. I've burned through a bunch of oats and have a couple hundred lbs left. I dont like them. My opinion, not Democrats and Republicans lol. So now that we've brought that thread into this I have a question for you about a trade I think we did back in the day... I'll just PM you.
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Schroomfairy said: Thanks everyone, especially my boy Crackatoa. I will try a few different options... I think my high altitude may play a factor.
I followed bods easy AF oats with no problem at 5000ft elevation...hope this helps.
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Schroomfairy said: Thanks everyone, especially my boy Crackatoa. I will try a few different options... I think my high altitude may play a factor.
No problem, gotta tell me how it works for you
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Schroomfairy
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How many percentage wise should be split?
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none should be split. cooking grain isn't rocket science. if you can figure out rice you can figure out oats. add oats and fill your pot with water as high as you're comfortable. bring to a boil. reduce to simmer for about 30 minutes, stir occasionally. after most of the water is absorbed squeeze a few grains. you want the grain a tiny bit dry in the middle. strain the pot and go straight into jars. don't worry if it's strained totally dry. you can pc immediately. the tiny bit of moisture on the grains during the pc cycle will cook the grain the rest of the way.
perfect grain every time, no matter what grain it is they're all the same prep....just adjust cooking time according to grain size. wbs does better after a 24hour soak to allow endospores to germinate prior to pc cycle. wbs is dirty af!!
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Split like burst grains? Well I guess the answer to that would be no more than 10% burst grains. Really the less the better but if you have a few more that doesn't mean the grains are bad I still use mine if they get a little overcooked and dont have too many issues.
If you use a slower or more mild prep you can prep without bursting grains.
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Honestly it's really simple and over thinking can cause problems. It's all "dirty", its grain! It's simple, we hydrate the grain slowly as to not burst too many, and the pressure cooker does the dirty work. If done proper there should be no problems, if contaminants show up it's most likely the mycelium culture/spores or inoculation technique that caused the contamination. Sum it up:Grain choice has nothing to do with contams if done right.
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Id just follow Bods oat tek to the T for beginners to oats.
You just need to pull the oats out of the water as soon as You see 1-2 burst grains.
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