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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Psilosadhu]
#26391957 - 12/20/19 05:51 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's the three at the top. A cubensis and a subaeruginascens for comparison. No annulus, by the way.
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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Psilosadhu]
#26391965 - 12/20/19 05:59 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well, obviously a bluing species of Psilocybe, but we'll need to see fresh specimens, preferably in situ, to tell more. Or you can ship a specimen out for a DNA sequence. But of course, we really want to see the mushrooms.
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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Anglerfish]
#26391970 - 12/20/19 06:04 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I know, wished I had my camera with me. But does anyone have any clue of what it might be? Cap similar to a p.yungensis, but growing directly from buffalo dung. If i ever find this species again, it will be documented up and down!
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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Psilosadhu]
#26392023 - 12/20/19 07:11 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Psilosadhu said: I know, wished I had my camera with me.
Never leave home without a camera.
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But does anyone have any clue of what it might be?
If it grows in buffalo dung and isn't Psilocybe cubensis, and you have completely ruled out Panaeolus/Copelandia, as far as I know the only known possibility left occuring in your area is P. subaeruginascens, and even that species is apparently only found occasionally growing in dung.
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Cap similar to a p.yungensis
Perhaps you can specify what leads you to this comparison, since P. yungensis is a species growing in the woods in Mexico?
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If i ever find this species again, it will be documented up and down!
Please make sure you do. You should promptly return to the spot where you found the first ones, if possible. If they're in season now, you're most likely going to find more of them there.
Edit: just got my head around to think about the dung loving Psilocybe angulospora found in Taiwan. Check this link to download the pdf, including a picture that might be helpful:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/286931356_Dung-associated_Potentially_Hallucinogenic_Mushrooms_from_Taiwan
Edited by Anglerfish (12/20/19 07:22 AM)
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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Anglerfish]
#26392055 - 12/20/19 07:44 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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That is the one I'm thinking of. Read somewhere that those were concidered synonyms. But not much information on that one. And was not sure whether it's growing directly from dung. P. chuxiongensis is found not far from here, but they look like small cubensis without an annulus. I guess the angulaspora might be the best bet. They were growing in the same spot I'm picking subaeruginascens, but never found them on dung. They're not remotely similar, though. The gills on these were also very pale and darker between.
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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Psilosadhu]
#26392157 - 12/20/19 09:21 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you want to check for synonymous names use www.indexfungorum.org
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  Psilocybe cubensis data collection thread. please help with this project if you hunt wild cubensis. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=26513593&page=0&vc=1#26513593
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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Psilosadhu]
#26392240 - 12/20/19 10:25 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Psilosadhu said: Read somewhere that those were concidered synonyms.
Which names are you referring to here? Sorry a bit confused.
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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Anglerfish]
#26392874 - 12/20/19 06:02 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks Doc! Was referring to yungensis and angulaspora, but it seems I've got things mixed up. Sorry for the confusion! Will try to go back where I found them today. With a camera 😁
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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Psilosadhu]
#26392940 - 12/20/19 06:48 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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By the way, since I started a thread with rather poorly documented species, I might as well throw this one in here. Brought this one with me one day I was out. Looks like an everyday papilionaceus, but it was bluing on the stipe. It did not bruise any further on handling, however. Next trip I picked a couple of dozens and one of them had the same blue spot on the stipe. Does papilionaceus do this sometimes? Doesn't show in the photo, can hardly see any bluing on the cyans there. I never pick these, though, as I've always considered them inactive or way too weakly active. They're outnumbered by cyans 20 to 1 anyways, so never been bothered But this one just happened to be growing next to some cyans and I noticed the blue spot on the stipe, so I got a little curious.
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