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Psilocybe samuiensis, or..?
    #26391810 - 12/20/19 02:43 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)
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Habitat:
In grass/mulch roadside enriched with buffalo dung and decaying wood and bamboo debris. Hilly area, forests, pastures and rice paddies around. P. subaeruginascens (unveryfied), p. cubensis and pan. cyanescens growing in the same substrate around them. NW-Vietnam - China border.

Gills:
Pale turning dark violet brown. Sinuate.

Stem:
20-40mm long, 1,5-2,5mm thick, even, whitish with bluish base, bruising blue, striate.

Cap:
10-20mm, brown fading to a pale buff or brown when dried, convex to subumbonate?

Spore print color:
Spore print not taken, but looks dark violet brown judging by the deposit on the top of one cap and upper parts of stipe.

Bruising:
Blue.

Other information:
Cannot say whether this one was growing from grass or the mulch. Doesn't look like a definite samuiensis. P. chuxiongensis is a coprophilic species found not far from here and might be a candidate. Sorry for the poor description, only four specimens found and not very experienced describing mushrooms.

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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Psilosadhu]
    #26391816 - 12/20/19 02:49 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry guys, can't figure out how to post several photos at once. Here's another:

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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Psilosadhu]
    #26391828 - 12/20/19 03:15 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Psilocybe samuiensis seems likely.

Here's some info on how to add pictures to a post:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13674858

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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #26391830 - 12/20/19 03:20 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Psilocybe samuiensis has been found in China, so I would expect it where you are.

Your posts today have tripled the number of Psilocybe species known to occur in Vietnam!

I added them to the official list:  https://www.shroomery.org/8461/Which-psilocybin-mushrooms-grow-wild-in-my-area

You may also be interested in this paper, which confirms that P. samuiensis is found in China:  https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13225-013-0260-7

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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Alan Rockefeller] * 1
    #26391841 - 12/20/19 03:34 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks again, Mr. Rockefeller! But wait, I've got more 😄

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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Psilosadhu] * 1
    #26391849 - 12/20/19 03:54 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Very cool find!

I converted it to jpeg for all to see:



Please use .jpg format and the picture upload function for further postings: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13674858

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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Psilosadhu]
    #26391852 - 12/20/19 04:06 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)
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I'll just continue here since the next two are very poorly documented. First off, this one: I believe it to be p. subcaerulipes, since nothing else fits the description. I've also found a report of it being found in Vietnam before. Only two specimens found, but most of my pictures, along with the stipe (haha), were lost, somehow. Well, here's my two surviving pictures.

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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Psilosadhu]
    #26391854 - 12/20/19 04:09 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry Anglerfish, shroomery doesn't seem to let me upload my. Jpeg files, that's why I'm converting them to pdf. Here's nr. 2. Please let me know how I can, and how I can post more photos at the same time. Might be that I'm on a phone atm.

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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Psilosadhu]
    #26391855 - 12/20/19 04:10 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Psilosadhu]
    #26391856 - 12/20/19 04:11 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)
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Sorry, keep on hitting submit instead of add file.. Fat fingers..

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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Psilosadhu]
    #26391858 - 12/20/19 04:13 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

This last picture doesn't do much to be honest. Perhaps you can take some in situ shots of fresh specimens?

And again, check the link I posted on how to upload pictures directly to the site. Pdf documents are tedious
to download and poses a risk for other users in terms of possible virus infections.

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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Psilosadhu]
    #26391863 - 12/20/19 04:18 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

The gills were not this purplish, more cinnamon, the camera just played me a little trick there. Anyway, only two specimens, roadside close to som pan. cyans. Lots of woody/bamboo debris and, of course, buffalo dung. Found only two. Mistook them for cyans at first. Their wobbly cap and the partial veil made them stand out. The colour was a bit off as well, as the cyans (tropicalis?) at that spot was very orange (young ones), and these were rather ochre.

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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Psilosadhu]
    #26391886 - 12/20/19 04:40 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Didn't have my camera with me as I wasn't actually hunting at the time. Sorry about that. I've also found p. subaeruginosa here, believe it or not. That was only two times, two weeks and two hundred meters between. I know it hasn't been found (to my knowledge) outside oceania, but there it was. Hard to misidentify. Could be a very closely related species, but I don't know any living in asia. . Well, I've been searching for it ever since and never found it again. That was 4 years ago. Ok, I've got one more. Found a coprophilic psilocybe about two weeks ago. No pictures, but i do have the dried specimens. Only three, I'm afraid. There's not many coprophilic psilocybes, so can anyone tell me what they might be? I'm blank. It resembles p. yunannensis, but was growing directly from dung. I'll post the picrures of the dried specimens (in. jpeg 😄) in a little while.

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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Psilosadhu]
    #26391889 - 12/20/19 04:41 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Definitely could be Psilocybe subcaerulipes.  Please keep looking for more specimens, and if possible take good pictures of them in their habitat before and after picking.

Psilocybe subcaerilipes is like an Asian version of Psilocybe zapotecorum, and like P. zapotecorum likes landslides and disturbed habitats.

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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Anglerfish]
    #26391892 - 12/20/19 04:43 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anglerfish said:
Very cool find!

I converted it to jpeg for all to see:



Please use .jpg format and the picture upload function for further postings: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13674858



Nice find OP


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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Psilosadhu]
    #26391920 - 12/20/19 05:09 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Sorry Anglerfish, shroomery doesn't seem to let me upload my. Jpeg file




https://www.shroomery.org/forums/upload.php?action=upload

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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: bloodycarcass]
    #26391923 - 12/20/19 05:11 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Ok, this is my last one, and in my opinion the most interesting find. Again, wasn't hunting and left my camera at home as I was going into the jungle for a couple of days. So, had to dry them. I've only found p.cubensis/subcubensis, p.fimetaria and pans growing directly from dung before this. Cone shaped with an acute papilla. Any ideas? Sorry for the extremely poor work done here, won't leave the door without a camera from here on!
Pictures coming...

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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Psilosadhu]
    #26391949 - 12/20/19 05:42 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Ok.. Growing on dung, cone shaped cap, 15-45mm diameter, acute papilla, coprophilic. Uploaded photos in jpeg...

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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Psilosadhu]
    #26391954 - 12/20/19 05:45 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you Anglerfish. Not sure if you can see the photos, I might have to wait till I can get to a place with WiFi so I can use my computer.

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Re: Psilocybe samuiensis, or..? [Re: Psilosadhu]
    #26391955 - 12/20/19 05:50 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)





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