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Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest?
    #26391848 - 12/20/19 03:52 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Hey guys, this is my first oyster mushroom grow.

All the online guides about harvesting, say pick them when the caps started flattening out (rounding down like waterfall if that makes sense).

My oyster mushrooms cap shape looks nothing like anything I can find online. They seemed to have turned inwards, like an eagles claw, rather than flattening out. Hoping somebody could help

Below are photos of the mushrooms, today(5 days after pining).


Here are photos of them growing up, they looked like they were progressing normal till today.


extra info, they are grown in a greenhouse, average temp ~22-24c, humidity set at 95% via pond fogger + fan controlled by an Inkbird controller. tent is opened twice a day for hand misting.

i'm wondering if having such a large area of substrate open to the air has anything to do with it. The reason i have opened it up this way, rather than cutting slits into the bag, is that i'm just experimenting by opening it without cutting the bag. Hoping it to be a little more sustainable and re-use the bag again.

though here below is another bag I cut a slit in, as it was pinning under the plastic. This one seems to have grown mush more ideally shaped


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: mike_val]
    #26392407 - 12/20/19 12:48 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

No, they are not ready to harvest they will flatten out. You do not have enough FAE to much stem on them.


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #26393148 - 12/20/19 08:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

thanks for advice!


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: mike_val]
    #26393500 - 12/21/19 05:10 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I just noticed you took the top off the bag. You do not want to do that with oysters. I flip the bag over and cut the bottom of the bag from corner to corner. You want the bag to stay against the sub. If the bag lifts up you will get fruit inside the bag. The fresh air is what triggers fruiting so only the slice in the bag will fruit. Producing larger better fruits.


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #26393738 - 12/21/19 09:04 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks Shroomsisay.

Yeah I always noticed that with oyster grows the mushrooms are always only growing from a little opening. Like buckets with drilled holes, straw logs poked with arrowheads and sawdust blocks with slits. why is that? I don't understand the logic to why oysters are grown this way.

you said by slicing the bag they will only grow from this, producing larger better fruits. so I'm assuming exposing too many substrate, the mushrooms will grow from multiple areas randomly but smaller?

How do you "flip the bag over and cut the bottom of the bag from corner to corner" when there is a large pocket of air on top? do you cut open to deflate the air, fold the plastic down,then turn upside down to cut the slit corner to corner?

photo updates of the mushroom blocks today:
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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: mike_val]
    #26393790 - 12/21/19 09:59 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Oysters prefer to fruit from small spaces for some reason. Exposed sub will dry out quickly and will allow more fruiting spots which will cause smaller fruits because more of the energy of the block is being spent on multiple spots fruiting.

I do not use an impulse sealer to seal my blocks I use these...

https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-Releasable-cable-50LBS-100pcs/dp/B004C4ZRIK/ref=sr_1_4?crid=2U6OIDBH3OV9Z&keywords=monoprice+cable+ties&qid=1576946845&sprefix=monoprice+cab%2Caps%2C162&sr=8-4

They are cheap and do a good job and are faster than an impulse sealer. I release the cable tie and push out the air then I just sit the bags on my wire rack and let the tie go between the wires of the rack. If you use an impulse sealer just Polk holes in the top of the bab and push out the air.

It looks like you may have solid shelves to sit the blocks on. This is not a good idea because it traps co2 around the mushrooms which will cause long stems. Solid shelving also does not allow your circulation fan to do its job of circulating the air.

You need a circulation fan constantly moving air around but not blowing directly on the mushrooms and you need to do compleat air exchanges 3 to 6 time an hour of the room or tent.


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #26394538 - 12/21/19 07:22 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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You need a circulation fan constantly moving air around but not blowing directly on the mushrooms and you need to do compleat air exchanges 3 to 6 time an hour of the room or tent.




This is a new concept for me (circulation fan), maybe that's why i'm seeing problems. The only time air moves around is when the humidifier goes on, only then is it circulation air/fog throughout the tent. Didn't realise this circulation of air was to remain constant.

again thanks for the input, this gives me a few things to work on.


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: mike_val]
    #26394629 - 12/21/19 08:49 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

If the air stays still then co2 builds up around the mushrooms and they will get long stems, which are not wanted for oysters. A circulation fan cuts down on the need for air exchange. I hope this helps and I wish you the best of luck! I will be around if you need any more help. Just make sure you are moving the air around and exhausting the co2 out of the tent and you should see a big improvement in your mushrooms.


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: mike_val]
    #26395004 - 12/22/19 05:52 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks again SHROOMSISAY01

so today's update:
went into check on the blocks today,

block #1(the bad one) looked worst with the mushrooms incredibly droopy


block #2 which was good up until yesterday, now has started to curl in like in block one.


anyways i've decided to harvest, as i'm off on a holiday trip tomorrow.
and have closed up all the bags, on recommendations, to not have so much exposed substrate.


will update this thread again with the next flush, hopefully with better results.


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: mike_val]
    #26405711 - 12/29/19 05:21 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

So it's happened again. abnormality of the mushroom cap.

i'm on holiday, at a farm in the country sharing my mushroom knowledge with a friend.

brought along an oyster sawdust block to fruit an a monotub with perlite in the bottom.

It seems like the caps are curling in once again.

I can only narrow it down to Co2 or temperature.

the temperature here has been reaching into the range of 30-35C the past few days. the monotub has been kept in shade and sprayed with water on the outside to help with cooling, and the internal temps are probably raising to ~28C.

monotub is opened at least 3-5 times a day, fanned with the lid to expel Co2 for ~5 sec on each opening and misting lightly to keep up humidity.

i'll probably get a CO2 sensor down the track just to eliminate the possibility of a high co2 problem.

below are photos:

Day 2 (after pining)2.30pm :


Day 2 9pm :


Day 3 10am:


Day 3 6.30pm:


Day 3 10pm:


will update tomorrow, which is day 4 with photos


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: mike_val]
    #26405820 - 12/29/19 07:22 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

You don't need a sensor. If you want normal looking fruits, a shotgun chamber will not work. They need fresh air. You would be better off fruiting in open air, imo.:shrug:


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: Quadman]
    #26405881 - 12/29/19 08:14 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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You don't need a sensor. If you want normal looking fruits, a shotgun chamber will not work. They need fresh air. You would be better off fruiting in open air, imo.:shrug:




What this guy said.

More fresh air and also better moisture retention is what you need.
Hence why most people have bags/boxes that they cut small slits into to encourage the mushrooms to grow out of, keeping as much moisture in the sub as possible while also allowing plenty of FAE for the fruits.


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: mu5h13]
    #26411907 - 01/02/20 05:39 AM (4 years, 27 days ago)

So back from my trip away.

a new batch started to grow from a sugarcane mulch block.

it's starting to look good so far.

Just posting photos below for any critique.

I'm not too familiar with growing oysters, looking for somebody that can tell me if the stem looks normal or too long.

Also are they ready for harvest?

Day 3:


Day 4:


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: mike_val]
    #26411931 - 01/02/20 06:12 AM (4 years, 27 days ago)

Are these Blue Oysters? day 3 they sure look blue, but afterwards not so much, although day 4 sorta. And I don't think you have said what type of Oysters you are growing.


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: seagu]
    #26412969 - 01/02/20 05:43 PM (4 years, 27 days ago)

thanks to this thread I recognized what was going on with my oysters last week. I had even thought I had enough FAE because of reading this thread ahead of time and making adjustments to my set up, but they started growing leggy and upturned like they wanted to turn out like these anyway! so I went all out on the FAE and they started developing more "normally" but still sort of like your updated pics, so I think I still have more work to do. I'm gonna eat some tonight though, my first batch, thanks OP for sharing your grow!


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: seagu]
    #26413439 - 01/02/20 11:05 PM (4 years, 26 days ago)

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Are these Blue Oysters? day 3 they sure look blue, but afterward not so much, although day 4 sorta. And I don't think you have said what type of Oysters you are growing.




Hey seagu, not sure what oyster variety these are, I just cloned then from the supermarket. I'm assuming these are pearl oysters mushroom??, correct me if i'm wrong.


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: trubblesome]
    #26413441 - 01/02/20 11:09 PM (4 years, 26 days ago)

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thanks to this thread I recognized what was going on with my oysters last week. I had even thought I had enough FAE because of reading this thread ahead of time and making adjustments to my set up, but they started growing leggy and upturned like they wanted to turn out like these anyway! so I went all out on the FAE and they started developing more "normally" but still sort of like your updated pics, so I think I still have more work to do. I'm gonna eat some tonight though, my first batch, thanks OP for sharing your grow!




Hey trubblesome,
Glad this info helped you out. If you figure things out down the track, and get everything dialed in and spot-on, please share what you did


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: mike_val]
    #26413448 - 01/02/20 11:13 PM (4 years, 26 days ago)

Day 6 (harvest):
They look so big decided to harvest.


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: mike_val]
    #26414329 - 01/03/20 12:57 PM (4 years, 26 days ago)

Ok, so those were not ready to harvest they had a lot more growing to do. You have to get more FAE in your chamber or at least a circulation fan. A circulation fan does not blow on the mushrooms it just moves air around to keep stagnated air from building up around the mushrooms. The caps of your mushrooms will flatten out. I just helped someone with this so the pic is of his mushrooms. But the red box shows what will flatten out. Once it flattens out it is time to harvest. Basically the gills will be horizontal instead of vertical...



My oysters have only 1/4 to 1/2 inch of stipe. If you have longer stipe than that you are putting the energy of the mushrooms sub into growing stipe. Long stipe = not enough air exchange. So up your air exchanges to 3 to 6 complete air exchanges an hour.

Like I told the other gentlemen You should let them overgrow so you can see when you should have harvested. Letting them overgrow will cause the ends of the cap to start to curl up and they will drop a few spores, but they are good to eat all the same. They just won't look as pretty. Watch them closely and you will know exactly when to harvest the next time. You only overgrow them one time to get an idea of when to harvest the next flush.

Here is a pic of one that was grown to long. Look at the curled ends of the cap. It was still delicious...



These only went a few hours over peak harvest time...



Notice how flat the caps are. Let them grow longer!!

Your main concern is FAE. You should have 3 to 6 complete air exchanges an hour.


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #26418057 - 01/05/20 05:57 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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Ok, so those were not ready to harvest they had a lot more growing to do.




Gotta disagree there, they are full grown in the pics posted and letting them grow further is not going to "fix" them and flatten the caps out.  See the wavy edges of the caps, the mega-stems, and the sheer size of them?  They're full grown, just badly.

I agree with your other advice, more fresh air exchange and they should do better next time.


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: Forrester]
    #26418117 - 01/05/20 06:31 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

I agree letting them grow would not fix them. It is hard to tell if they were full-grown do to the lack of fresh air and humidity. My fruits that are in a very good environment always flatten out even if they start off verticle. I do not think those fruits are very big other than the stipe. But I am used to fruits bigger than my head. None of my fruits end up with vertical gills. I only use top of the line spawn so that may have something to do with it.


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #26418958 - 01/06/20 08:51 AM (4 years, 23 days ago)

I think the other reason for the strange formation is that it was a blue oyster strain (you can see in the earlier stages of growth the blue), but grown at too high of temperatures for the strain.  Blues like it cold, even down to near freezing, but they'll grow fine up to pretty warm, like you said already the main problem here was FAE.


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: Forrester]
    #26419203 - 01/06/20 12:00 PM (4 years, 23 days ago)

the temps were definitely an aspect of what was happening to mine as well - had a warm streak here and I couldn't get temps in my tent below 67 or so no matter how much "cold" air I brought in from outside.

now they're comfortably at 60, could get lower if we ever get actual winter weather here, and outputting the high CO2 air to/cooling the grow light in my weed tent, weed tent is then venting that air to the outside so that I can keep the rest of the room at a normal temperature. just twiddling my thumbs waiting for flush 2/flush 1 for new buckets I put in so I can see how dialed in it is or is not. Now I'm thinking I should have just put those blocks right outside to be honest, it was humid as shit and basically stayed between 40 and 60 degrees the whole week they were fruiting!


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: trubblesome]
    #26420113 - 01/06/20 09:48 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

I grow Amycel 3015 witch is supposed to be a blue oyster. But it does well at all temps for me. Even up in the 90F range. That is the reason I forked out the cash for it. I am glad I did.


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #26420136 - 01/06/20 10:10 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

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I grow Amycel 3015 witch is supposed to be a blue oyster. But it does well at all temps for me. Even up in the 90F range. That is the reason I forked out the cash for it. I am glad I did.




Indeed that's why I love blues.  Mine also grew pretty well when I threw the blocks outside in the upper 80's of summer, fruits were huge with enough FAE out there.  Not as long of a shelf life as when grown colder though.


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: Forrester]
    #26420156 - 01/06/20 10:33 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

Now you got me thinking I will put some outside this spring or whenever the temp is right. I have never grown outdoors yet. They end up with a lot more weight when grown in colder temps also. I was getting 2 1/2 lbs first flush from a 5 lb sub bag.


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #26420506 - 01/07/20 07:38 AM (4 years, 22 days ago)

Yeah the fruits are definitely much denser and better at the lower temps.  It's fun to play with throwing them outdoors and see how they do at all temps though, I love finding those random huge mushrooms you weren't even expecting :crazy2:


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    #26430054 - 01/12/20 05:22 PM (4 years, 17 days ago)

pretty annoyed right now - I was away for a day or so when outside temps and humidity were, well, exactly what I'm trying to provide in my martha. so the fan didn't run as often as it should have, as temps were just kind of at equilibrium in the house, and again, they aren't getting enough FAE. they went from this on friday:



to this today when I got back:




so I'm curious, is there a point where there is too much FAE? Or are the oysters in this photo a sign of some other problem entirely? i've now connected the exhaust fan duct directly to the top of the martha, it's a 100 cfm fan and I've got it set very low, theoretically i'm getting a full air exchange every 5 minutes or so. since I have this pulling air, I moved the fogger in to the martha, and kept the circulating fan inside to keep the air and humidity moving and evenly distributed. Hopefully this is enough, otherwise I think I'm going to have to jump right to a project I was hoping to delay until I have another space all set up for it - the pond fogger in a tote piping the cold, humidified air in to the martha directly.


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: trubblesome]
    #26430078 - 01/12/20 05:43 PM (4 years, 17 days ago)

Nope, you can't get to much fresh air for oysters ( exclude kings). It is just a balancing act between air and humidity.


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    #26430085 - 01/12/20 05:48 PM (4 years, 17 days ago)

awesome. hopefully I have a positive update in a few days!


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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: trubblesome]
    #26430214 - 01/12/20 07:30 PM (4 years, 16 days ago)

In my experience blues are the most air hungry among oysters too... it looks like they're in one of those zip up greenhouses, can't you just unzip the front and set them near it?  That's what I always did. 

Still, it is VERY difficult to get that kind not to be stemmy.  Mine used to look like this too:



With a little practice, more like:



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Re: Weird Oyster Mushroom cap shape, Deformity?, ready to harvest? [Re: Forrester]
    #26430233 - 01/12/20 07:53 PM (4 years, 16 days ago)

I would set that exhaust fan on its 100 CFM speed 24/7. Set on low as you do and then not running all the time? If I am understanding you right. Its not too much a wonder you are having issues with blues.

You also could be having an issue I had before where the room/house itself just had a higher than average CO2 load constantly. I one time had a 6x6x7 fruiting tent that even with it wide open and nothing holding the sides together and a 20" box fan on high blowing in there. The blues sang the blues like yours. :crying:


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    #26430442 - 01/12/20 10:36 PM (4 years, 16 days ago)

seagu that's wild! the thought that the room is just cursed has definitely crossed my mind, but I have an intake fan bringing the cold air in directly from the outside so I thought I'd be good there. (as I type that I'm thinking maybe CO2 levels are generally higher in winter with all the plants dormant though, maybe that's adding to the problem?) as far as the fan goes it was set to always on, I just figured running near ~25 cfm with the size of the martha it would theoretically achieve complete air exchange once every five minutes or so - before today it wasn't actually pulling directly from the martha though, just from above some slits in the top which clearly wasn't enough. I think I was obviously quite mistaken about how much fresh air actually gets pumped in by an aquarium type fogger. Even after the changes I posted about earlier, I sat by the tent with a stopwatch watching the humidity controller cycling up and down for a while and decided to just go 100% on the fan (glad to see you suggested that!) and figure out a more permanent solution for humidification later. I can just keep filling the humidifier each morning for now but that's not going to be a solution for when I have to be away for a night or two. I really wanted to avoid stepping up that portion of it until I have space in my basement clear where I can more easily set things up near drains/water sources.


forrester those are verrrry dope oysters! that's a good call on the full unzip, I might end up having to do that, I was just concerned about all that humidity condensing outside the martha in places I don't want it, so I was trying to keep it contained and exhausted out to the plant tent where the CO2/humidity can be put to work. I did cut a bunch of slits in it thinking that would be enough but obviously it hasn't been. with it pulling the air right out the top it might be fine though.


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    #26430780 - 01/13/20 07:29 AM (4 years, 16 days ago)

Yea I was frustrated! :sad: 25CFM is way too low for a Martha and blues. Like another experienced Shroomer once told me about Oysters and FAE. Whatever the technical data says for FAE requirements go more, a lot more. Here check this video out from Mossy Creek Mushrooms on ventilation and humidity with technical numbers he uses. You said you are setting up in your basement eventually. Check out his basement grow setup.. and that isn't even his only grow room down there. hehe -


No clue about CO2 level differences during winter or other times of the year. Someone else might know. But I am running a martha during the winter and I am not getting mushrooms looking like yours. I also have an inline fan that can go as high as I think 210 CFM. I forget the exact speed. It is on low and my first flush Oysters look awesome, but for full disclosure I have not filled the thing up yet full, so I may need to turn my fan speed up when there is a bunch of Blues in there letting out a bunch of CO2. Sorry no pics. My camera that had the pics on there died and I don't have any first flush Oysters going right now anyways. Just LM. Gr0wer says you can get away with a computer fan blowing into a Martha, as gr0wer(Myers Mushrooms) even says about his martha, which you can find here on shroomery somewhere. What CFM he used I don't know though. Personally, I am only using an exhaust pulling out, nothing blowing in. That way I don't get spores all over the place. And I didn't have to build no  door, didn't need no zipper. Its just a temp setup as I have another grow area elsewhere, so I didn't want to spend any money on it. But it works perfect. Just tweaking it right now as I kick the tires and dial it all in for growing LM and Oysters at the same time.

As far as your humidifier and needing to be away for as few days. You could set your humidifier on a timer so it doesn't use all your water so quick. I have grown great blues by just spritzing with a spray bottle once a day. You could also build a reservoir tank that feeds into your humidifier so that you have more water and lasts a lot longer between needing to be filled. You can find threads on shroomery of people doing this.

With a what I would consider a proper martha setup, you shouldn't have any humidity outside your martha affecting the room its in. I know mine doesn't. I have had both and there is no way I would go back to not a fully sealed grow tent inside a house. That is an easy way to get black mold growing in your house. So, I strongly advise against it.

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    #26430809 - 01/13/20 08:13 AM (4 years, 16 days ago)

the mold is definitely a great concern. just to be clear when you said "there is no way I would go back to not a fully sealed grow tent inside a house" you're talking about a martha inside a grow tent? that's what I've got going on, just want to make sure that's what you meant. I really appreciate all this info and help! I do also have a 210 cfm fan I could use, I just really didn't think they'd be so hungry for air. I watched the mossy creek video once before because that's the fogger/humidifier set up I'd like to do. For some reason I blanked on the part where he says the air is replaced once every 2.5 minutes though...maybe I should switch to the 210 cfm fan...

still, this morning the ones that weren't so far gone already are flattening out. fingers crossed they all improve throughout the day.

edit: I guess I should just post a pic of the set up. fan on the floor bottom left is cold air brought in from outside. exhaust goes in to my weed tent, but they're just babies right now. right now the weed tent exhaust fan (210 cfm) kicks on at full strength when humidity from the mushroom tent makes it hit 60% and shuts off again at 50%. going to have to figure out a filter for the spores soon too. anyway - any modifications still to be made?







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    #26430968 - 01/13/20 09:58 AM (4 years, 16 days ago)

A circulation fan inside your tent will cut down on the need for FAE. A circulation fan constantly moves the air around so co2 can't build up around your mushrooms.


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    #26431110 - 01/13/20 11:29 AM (4 years, 16 days ago)

that's what's really throwing me for a loop! I have a small clip on fan down at the bottom blowing at a slight upward angle in to a corner to get good circulation without blowing directly on the mushrooms. I can see the mist swirling and moving around the mushrooms and not hanging in one spot so I thought I was good to go. hoping that sucking the CO2 out directly will get me where I need to be.

thanks again to everyone for reading and offering advice, it's sincerely appreciated. even though they were quite leggy the first batch I had was delicious and I can't wait for more.


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    #26431121 - 01/13/20 11:36 AM (4 years, 16 days ago)

I am talking about a martha and or grow tent not being completely sealed inside a house with the humidity mushrooms require being pumped into it. I just have a shelf on a plastic tray with a plastic sheet thrown over it. The exhaust pulls the plastic tight and seals everything. The humidity doesn't even go out the intake. It goes right outside. So my room has zero extra humidity. I took measurements to find out.

My fan speed is probably overkill for a martha. So what you are using on high speed is probably good? Maybe? I have 2 others I probably could have used which are some 156 CFM computer fans built for high humidity. I forget all the numbers on space and stuff but my 210 CFM one should be enough for a lot bigger space even going based off equivalent numbers Andrew uses successfully. But this is a more compact area with less free space wiggle room for CO2 buildup. I have noticed for example because of how I cut the bags when it comes to 2nd, 3rd and 4rth flushes they stipe out some because the bags start coming up creating a sort of air pocket. 1st flush doesn't have that problem since the bags are right up against the sub. Maybe turning my fan up would solve that too. dunno. I am actually going to try some other things first. And I probably won't do 2nd flushes anyways for Blues. And I am using the same type of shelf gr0wer uses successfully for small grows with just a computer fan or something, so there are wide parts of the shelf adding to all this that can help to create CO2 pockets. But he does it. He might cut the bags differently for in there. I dunno like I said before still kicking the tires testing things out for my configuration. Which is different than his. And I am working on a design to make it far different than I have seen anyone doing a martha do to eliminate all air pockets around the bags. But who knows someone might have done it. :grin:

I would pipe the spores directly outside. Everyone I have heard of using a filter says it gets clogged too quickly. Even Andrew mentions that. But if you are not growing that much... meh.. :shrug:

The fan you have is piping directly in from outside? Or outside the martha? Or outside the tent your martha is in?


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    #26431168 - 01/13/20 11:59 AM (4 years, 16 days ago)

Ah, word! gotcha, that makes sense. The big fan is piping air from outside the house, trying to keep it nice and cold. the basement set up would exhaust direct to outside for sure. just a weird configuration I have now. would probably just rubber band a couple layers of panty hose or cheese cloth on the exhaust intake side for a quick and dirty filter to make changing it easy and cheap.

and yeah for the next little while I really only see myself growing these few small buckets at a time to get the hang of it so hopefully the sporeload doesn't get crazy/I'm able to harvest at the right time. I'd love to quit my job and grow a ton of mushrooms but obviously I've got a bit of work to do before quitting the day job, so just small time personal consumption for now...


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    #26431181 - 01/13/20 12:09 PM (4 years, 16 days ago)

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I am talking about a martha and or grow tent not being completely sealed inside a house with the humidity mushrooms require being pumped into it. I just have a shelf on a plastic tray with a plastic sheet thrown over it. The exhaust pulls the plastic tight and seals everything. The humidity doesn't even go out the intake. It goes right outside. So my room has zero extra humidity. I took measurements to find out.

My fan speed is probably overkill for a martha. So what you are using on high speed is probably good? Maybe? I have 2 others I probably could have used which are some 156 CFM computer fans built for high humidity. I forget all the numbers on space and stuff but my 210 CFM one should be enough for a lot bigger space even going based off equivalent numbers Andrew uses successfully. But this is a more compact area with less free space wiggle room for CO2 buildup. I have noticed for example because of how I cut the bags when it comes to 2nd, 3rd and 4rth flushes they stipe out some because the bags start coming up creating a sort of air pocket. 1st flush doesn't have that problem since the bags are right up against the sub. Maybe turning my fan up would solve that too. dunno. I am actually going to try some other things first. And I probably won't do 2nd flushes anyways for Blues. And I am using the same type of shelf gr0wer uses successfully for small grows with just a computer fan or something, so there are wide parts of the shelf adding to all this that can help to create CO2 pockets. But he does it. He might cut the bags differently for in there. I dunno like I said before still kicking the tires testing things out for my configuration. Which is different than his. And I am working on a design to make it far different than I have seen anyone doing a martha do to eliminate all air pockets around the bags. But who knows someone might have done it. :grin:

I would pipe the spores directly outside. Everyone I have heard of using a filter says it gets clogged too quickly. Even Andrew mentions that. But if you are not growing that much... meh.. :shrug:

The fan you have is piping directly in from outside? Or outside the martha? Or outside the tent your martha is in?




Use some nails to hold the plastic down. Use one of those computer fans as a circulation fan inside the tent. Everyone that does not have a circulation fan will have co2 build up around the mushrooms. Don't have the fan blowing on the mushrooms just have it moving air around.



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    #26431309 - 01/13/20 01:08 PM (4 years, 16 days ago)

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I am talking about a martha and or grow tent not being completely sealed inside a house with the humidity mushrooms require being pumped into it. I just have a shelf on a plastic tray with a plastic sheet thrown over it. The exhaust pulls the plastic tight and seals everything. The humidity doesn't even go out the intake. It goes right outside. So my room has zero extra humidity. I took measurements to find out.

My fan speed is probably overkill for a martha. So what you are using on high speed is probably good? Maybe? I have 2 others I probably could have used which are some 156 CFM computer fans built for high humidity. I forget all the numbers on space and stuff but my 210 CFM one should be enough for a lot bigger space even going based off equivalent numbers Andrew uses successfully. But this is a more compact area with less free space wiggle room for CO2 buildup. I have noticed for example because of how I cut the bags when it comes to 2nd, 3rd and 4rth flushes they stipe out some because the bags start coming up creating a sort of air pocket. 1st flush doesn't have that problem since the bags are right up against the sub. Maybe turning my fan up would solve that too. dunno. I am actually going to try some other things first. And I probably won't do 2nd flushes anyways for Blues. And I am using the same type of shelf gr0wer uses successfully for small grows with just a computer fan or something, so there are wide parts of the shelf adding to all this that can help to create CO2 pockets. But he does it. He might cut the bags differently for in there. I dunno like I said before still kicking the tires testing things out for my configuration. Which is different than his. And I am working on a design to make it far different than I have seen anyone doing a martha do to eliminate all air pockets around the bags. But who knows someone might have done it. :grin:

I would pipe the spores directly outside. Everyone I have heard of using a filter says it gets clogged too quickly. Even Andrew mentions that. But if you are not growing that much... meh.. :shrug:

The fan you have is piping directly in from outside? Or outside the martha? Or outside the tent your martha is in?




Use some nails to hold the plastic down. Use one of those computer fans as a circulation fan inside the tent. Everyone that does not have a circulation fan will have co2 build up around the mushrooms. Don't have the fan blowing on the mushrooms just have it moving air around.






Yea already tried that. It is how I set it up from the get go. One of the 156 CFM fans is used as a circulation fan. :grin: Maybe I just need to speed up my exhaust fan. :shrug: Its on low. I am working on setting it up so I just stack the bags on top of each other in the middle/back on a rack for each shelf so that its a wall of shroom bags with the fruit growing directly over the holes on each shelf. So that it fits the exact same amount of bags as if they were sitting on the full shelf. Then just pipe the intake and exhaust across the fruit's side of the bags. I have all the materials to build the extra shelf on each shelf for free so.. why not. I would rather have side fruiting bags anyways instead of top fruiting. And like I said its only a problem after the first flush when the bags start coming away from the sub creating a little air pocket around the base of the shrooms that isn't there for the first flush. And since I am probably not going to keep the bags after the first flush.. meh..

And there is zero need to hold the plastic down with anything other than the exhaust fan's suction. Its holds perfectly. Provides an air and water tight seal. 9'x12' plastic tarp sideways, folded over the top and wrapped around the sides.  Perfect size for those HDX shelves. 5 shelves with 4 usable.


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    #26432878 - 01/14/20 09:44 AM (4 years, 15 days ago)

I think they're liking the changes



tweaked it just a bit more, put everything on the second from top shelf because they seemed to be drying out a bit up at the top so close to the exhaust, and reoriented the circulation fan to blow at the back wall at an upward angle, seems good.

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    #26438080 - 01/17/20 09:02 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

Getting there!! Second flush from the bags:




These are the best from the bucket, they seem too wet though, and possibly bleached by my light. It's an LED grow light at 25% power, and the ones closest to it have definitely grown the weirdest. Thinking it's time to get off my ass and get some lower powered lights in here.



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    #26452027 - 01/25/20 02:42 PM (4 years, 4 days ago)

:rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:



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    #26452042 - 01/25/20 02:52 PM (4 years, 4 days ago)

looking nice!  :crazy2:


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    #26463079 - 02/01/20 05:49 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Great work guys keeping the thread going. everything is really informative.

One thing as a beginner grower it's hard to wrap my mind around how much FAE it needs.

At first, I was putting an aquarium pump in the tent, thinking it would be enough. I was so wrong, these fungi produce a hell lot of Co2, it's crazy.

I realized how much co2 was building up, by putting a Co2 meter in the tent and watching the value climb up:



These next set of photos are from calendar weeks 2-3 of 2020,
Growing and experimenting a whole bunch:








next set of photos are a set of experiments of growing oysters out of the greenhouse tent, surprisingly they turned out much better looking (even with less air humidity),
so now i know for sure that there is a FAE/Co2 problem in my tent:



Next I did some modifications to my set up. got a larger 10 disc fogger, on a floating bed so I can fill the container full of water while maintaining optimal water height for the foggers to work correctly.

i've also rigged it up now, so the humidifier works by pulling outside air into the tent. so when humidifying it's also supplying fresh air, as opposed to before, where it was recirculation air inside the tent to humidify.



this week I had one of the stranges grow, 1 giant oyster mushroom from a sawdust block:



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    #26463120 - 02/01/20 06:40 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Wow :jawdrop: that is one hell of an oyster !

That's interesting to see the co2 readings, I've never owned one of those. 

Been noticing a lot lately how even the growers with major accounts (whole foods, my local grocery store chain) still seem to have trouble growing oysters.  I should've snapped a pic but I couldn't believe they were even selling them as leggy as they were...


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    #26463987 - 02/01/20 04:30 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I hope you cloned that!!


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    #26464103 - 02/01/20 06:04 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Why?

Unless these oysters were started from spore which would be a really odd thing to do, the culture should already be an isolate so cloning would be pointless.  I think you're thinking of cubes :wink:


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    #26464473 - 02/01/20 11:40 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

True that forrester, no point in cloning as it's an isolated strain. Unless there's something i'm missing.

I initially got the strain by clone a store-bought oyster mushroom. so all oyster mushroom i've grown thus far is from that one strain.

i'm still amazed by how big it was. i wonder why it grew like that, i wanna try to replicate the grow.

the sawdust block used hardwood eucalyptus as a base, 20% wheat bran, 2.5% gypsum. when hydrated the block weighted 1.5kg.


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    #26464664 - 02/02/20 05:23 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

it's common for later flushes to make fewer, but bigger mushrooms as you probably already know, but yeah other than that it's kinda chance I think.  Don't think I've ever seen a regular oyster (not king) that big!


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    #26469695 - 02/05/20 05:54 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

So a bit of update. my latest flush looks a lot better now.


block 1:


block 2:


So the new setup has helped a lot. With the humidifier outside the tent. every time it goes on it's bringing in fresh air (oppose to recycling internal air).

one question in reference to the above photos, in your guys/gals opinion, do they look ready for harvest?


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    #26469730 - 02/05/20 06:26 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Yes they look ready.  If you watch the very edges of the cap, when they flatten out like that and point straight out they are ready.  If you wait a couple days more on those you will see those edges curl up and get a little wavy.  You wanna get em before they do that.


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    #26470452 - 02/05/20 02:54 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

thanks for the advice


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