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Grain of choice 1
#26390889 - 12/19/19 03:30 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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So I'm wondering what everyone uses as their grain. Especially the TC's. So I started with long brown rice along time ago. Then I ordered a kit with 1/2pt brf/verm (I advise against a kit). I tried wbs and had great success for few months. Wife hated smell. Switched to oats because they were cheaper. Love them. Easy prep. Instead of soaking for 24hrs like wbs I let oats dry for 24hrs so it's same amount of time. I want to try something different. Millet, rye, idk. Maybe back to WBS. What do u guys use and like the best. Why do you choose that grain? Hope this helps anyone new wanting to try something new and more advanced so to say. Thanks everyone who replies.
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I like wheat...standard soak quick simmer
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: cronicr]
#26390963 - 12/19/19 04:22 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I like rye, no soak slow simmer, very reliable and consistent
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I like rye (Soak and a simmer), But I have used oats (Bod's prep) with success.
Going to try millet next. I have read good things about it.
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: newtomyc]
#26390993 - 12/19/19 04:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I still prefer plain ol" Wild bird seed .... The cheapest I can find.
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The shroomy 1 said: I still prefer plain ol" Wild bird seed .... The cheapest I can find.
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: Psicomb]
#26391097 - 12/19/19 05:17 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I use mostly WBS. It’s cheap, easy to find, and clean so long as you stay away from name brands (store generics are always way better quality). I also like to pretend that the multiple different seeds gives my mycelium some variety to chew on, but the reality is it probably doesn’t care.
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Whole Oats are the best bang for your buck imo. $10-$15 gets you a 50lb bag at most feed stores, we go to D&B. We can fill 60+ quart jars with less than half the bag. Bods easy AF Oat tek has been working beautifully and saving me a grip in cash.
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: Dr.Dank]
#26391121 - 12/19/19 05:27 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oats. Don't see a good reason to use alternatives...
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I get a 50lb bag of oats here for a little over 8$, so they're my grain of choice until something cheaper come along.
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Oats but I can't get over the contrast and feel of Milo.
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: cronicr]
#26391261 - 12/19/19 06:26 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
cronicr said: I like wheat...standard soak quick simmer
I have only tried wheat and white millet. Millet is messy i also prefer more wheat.
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: Psicomb]
#26391266 - 12/19/19 06:28 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Psicomvb said:
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The shroomy 1 said: I still prefer plain ol" Wild bird seed .... The cheapest I can find.
Burd ced son!
or whatever is cheap and works... besides popcorn..
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: mushboy]
#26391349 - 12/19/19 07:21 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lol, I have noticed the hate of oats around the forums from a grip of members, just curious why? I am prone to making a huge mess with wbs so to save my wife and I the clean up I switched to a bigger grain, less noc points, but less mess and less $ spent.
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: Dr.Dank]
#26391360 - 12/19/19 07:24 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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oats.
You can do no prep, just oats, water and pc. easy peasy
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I think it is easy to over hydrate even when they initially look fine. Then peeps have issues. I prep mine far shorter than often advised then dry the shit out of them after. Any more and it is usually pretty sweaty in there. You want them to roll freely around in the jar and look like the oats you started with from the bag IMO.
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I used to do wbs a lot until I tried wheat berries. Hands down the easiest most consistent grain I've tried. I've only really done corn, wbs, Millet and wheat berry. I've been doing gallon jars 3/4 full with no issues. Wbs seems like it goes anaerobic easier in big jars. Started these with a couple gallons of x7x on wheat.
 I just do 20 min simmer, strain it for ten min and load jars for PC. If I need them drier like for lc I let them sit out longer.
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Glad you guys like them. I have that option as well in bulk so I may give them a shot for funsies at some point.
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I never had any luck with WBS. Oats are cheap and rye berries are expensive. Easy decision.
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I have recently started using pot barley with some pretty crazy results. Due to the lack of a husk, the barley does stick together, but it does not create any extra liquids/contams. some of these jars have been sitting for 3 wks with PE in them with no visible contam issues so far. i soak for 10 hours, drain in a strainer until nothing is draining anymore and put them directly into the jars and pc for 90 mins/15 psi. here is some 72 hr PESA shoeboxes
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: Phycus]
#26391515 - 12/19/19 09:02 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm using wheat because that's all I could get locally at the time. Took maybe two batches to get the prep sorted and it works well. I just wonder about sharing the proceeds with anyone that's sensitive or allergic to gluten.
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Make sure your mushies are gluten free mmmmkay, you don't want your dick flying off, that's not good, mmkay. Lol sorry, had to.
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: Dr.Dank]
#26391560 - 12/19/19 09:24 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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damn near every edible store bought mushroom is grown with grain spawn. i think it would be common knowledge if mushrooms triggered celiac.
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: mushboy]
#26391633 - 12/19/19 10:16 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sorghum for cubes and a 50/50 mix of WBS with sorghum for pans...both prepped using hamloafs prep.. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25119087#25119087 Easy&works out great for me.
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I use sorghum as well because of availability. I like it. For the latest round of grows, I'm doing a 24-hour soak and quick simmer...because I'm not in a rush. Otherwise, I have used hamloaf's prep. The way I usually grow pans doesn't require the grain to be prepped at all, but I am playing around with some new methods.
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Oats fkin suck.
Wheat is the motherfuckin shit.
Almost no down side to wbs besides lack of consistency and can be sort of dirty.
Popcorn... I see no reason to use it.
Rye is all right but price sucks.
Cracked corn works but gets sticky if you dont know what you are doimg.
I've gone through atleast 100lb of each of these grains With wbs and oats more far more than 100 lbs. The only exception Is popcorn I didn't use it much.
I've learned alot using different grains. Next grain I will try is barley. Gotta burn through a couple 100lbs of stocked up oats first.
By far my favorite is wheat. Easiest to prep, Cleanest(especially food grade), most uniform, smells great and most importantly mushrooms love wheat. Try them you wont regret it.
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: gizmo1]
#26391660 - 12/19/19 10:46 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wheat is 59 cents a lb the closest seller here, what are you getting it for if you don't mind me asking
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: Dr.Dank]
#26391710 - 12/19/19 11:50 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Canna-bliss1 said: Wheat is 59 cents a lb the closest seller here, what are you getting it for if you don't mind me asking
I can't even get it local anymore or I would have never stopped using it. It's like everytime I find something I love it gets taken from me.   When I was getting it, it was pretty expensive. Probably 30 bucks for a 50lb back but I bought a bunch of them clearenced down to like 13 bucks a bag all food grade. You can get them cheaper but feed stores dont carry it around here so I'm still looking for a good source for cheap feed grade wheat.
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: gizmo1]
#26391716 - 12/19/19 11:58 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I use wbs but I don't soak it. It gets rinsed a couple times, boiled for (around 45min or so), rinsed again, drained, and loaded when I feel like it's ready. I hawk for deals. I also still use a lot of wbr, becasue the speed of growth is unreal (and I have a virtually undending supply). One day I'll run to Anchorage and buy a shitload of wheat, but that day is not today. Wbs and wbr have treated me well.
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What is wbr?
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: gizmo1]
#26391724 - 12/20/19 12:04 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Whole brown rice
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: cronicr]
#26391756 - 12/20/19 12:47 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ah gotcha
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: newtomyc]
#26391819 - 12/20/19 02:54 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I started oats and heading right to white proso millet for master jars
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: YogiBear]
#26391820 - 12/20/19 03:00 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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OATS all the way, boil for 10-15 min then drain for 24-48hr and into the jars it goes. I had trouble in the past with oats not getting the moisture right but now I got my oat prep down with much success. I am going to get a 50lb bag of millet one of these days, only problem is the smallest quantity I can get from the feed store is 1000lb and I sure as hell don't need that much.
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: MH5109]
#26391821 - 12/20/19 03:04 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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MH5109 said: OATS all the way, boil for 10-15 min then drain for 24-48hr and into the jars it goes. I had trouble in the past with oats not getting the moisture right but now I got my oat prep down with much success. I am going to get a 50lb bag of millet one of these days, only problem is the smallest quantity I can get from the feed store is 1000lb and I sure as hell don't need that much.
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: YogiBear]
#26391952 - 12/20/19 05:44 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Awesome sauce. Thanks everyone. I think I overhydrate my oats. WBS always came out good. I want to try wheat & Millet the most so far. This was a good thread. I appreciate everyone's time and opinion. I'm going to try and pick some up this weekend and I'll keep yall informed.
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Oats are the best price and really easy.
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It seems to be the same everywhere you go, people praise one grain or another, but in the end it's the same end game. Just open your third eye, enhance your conscious mind.
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: Dr.Dank]
#26393054 - 12/20/19 07:51 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I use wbs for no prep master jars. The ease of use is the main reason but I also see faster growth going a2g with wbs vs oats. I use oats for spawn bags, I soak mine overnight, dry until ready an load em up. Have 100lbs soaking now, will drain/dry in the morning and load up 4 AA941's with spawn bags about this time tomorrow.
Think I'm gonna try wheat next.
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Rye is my favorite. A little more expensive but worth it imo. Around here it's sold for planting in the fall to protect the ground in the winter. About 40c a pound and very easy to work with. Top notch stuff with no chaff or other debris.
Oats are around 18c a pound but much more prone to bursting when simmering. Also all the oats I've bought around here have a lot of contaminant grains (mostly just the occasional corn kernel), which usually isn't a problem but there's this one contaminating grain that mycelium absolutely refuses to colonize. It looks like a kidney bean or something but hard and mycelium will never grow on it. And no it's not just a small rock lol.
For the people buying wheat and sorghum, what is it sold for? Animal feed? I've never seen it at feed shops. Only ever seen oats, millet, and corn. Been interested in trying them.
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Honesty it's all the same. people praise wbs, wheat, rye etc... It all produces the same outcome if done right. It all breaks down to what is comfortable for you. In the end were all achieving the same goal for this thread I'm assuming...just open your third eye and expand your conscious mind.
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: Dr.Dank]
#26393138 - 12/20/19 08:47 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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OATS.... Honestly I've come to find this is almost as "toxic" as any other forum free to any Joe Shmoe. People hate oats because it is the cheap, working, available alternative. Yes it is easy to over hydrate, but with any clean proper practice it is one of the cheapest and reliable grains. I respect the TCs here, but please don't bash a grain that is cheap, easy and available to most. It is very reliable and cheap! It almost feels like oat haters are like republicans or democrats hating one or the other because of the advantage one will gain.
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Hobbit GDF said: Awesome sauce. Thanks everyone. I think I overhydrate my oats. WBS always came out good. I want to try wheat & Millet the most so far. This was a good thread. I appreciate everyone's time and opinion. I'm going to try and pick some up this weekend and I'll keep yall informed.
The only way to over hydrate oats is by boiling them like in Bods Tek. If You just soak oats in warm taps watsr for 12 hours they will take on 60-65g of water per 100g of oats And wont have too much water unless you add water in the jar. Bods Tek gives perfect grains at 75g of water per 100g of oats. 👍
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: YogiBear]
#26393410 - 12/21/19 01:58 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't think there is necessarily a right or wrong grain, alot of it comes down to prep. Oats are nice but if you over cook them they turn into a starchy mess, trust me iv done it. Wheat is a good grain rye is good, im sure there are threads here of everything working for someone. I mainly like oats cuz they are cheap as hell and easy to prep, but im going to try some millet out in the near future cuz iv never tried it before but I bet it would rip through coir with all the inoculation points. Maybe popcorn is not the best, but i think thats been said before.
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: MH5109]
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wheat berries. no soak, no rinse, no simmer. full on boil until just about ready. strain it, give it a couple of tosses in the strainer and then load into jars and sterilize immediately. comes out perfect every time!
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: Haywire]
#26393512 - 12/21/19 05:30 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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My method is identical
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Rye was my jam but it is expensive.. I was looking on amazon and the amazon choice brand is about half the price of any of the other ones there. Rye is just really simple to do, but I hear that about oats too.. also hear oat horror stories though.. weavils sound shitty too. But to each their own! Don’t knock it til ya tried it I suppose
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: fahtster]
#26393676 - 12/21/19 08:09 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I stick with Rye, done RR style
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Re: Grain of choice [Re: Psilotyl]
#26393689 - 12/21/19 08:20 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Out of all grain wbs is my personal favorite of all time. I’ll explain why. The leap off from inoculation has tons of inoculation points. This colonized my bulk subs days faster compared to other larger grains like oats, rye ect. In that respect, wbs is king on speed. After a shake the jar colonized quicker side by side than oats. My only reason for switching to oats was cost and getting wbs stuck between my toes. I always felt there was a plethora of grain on the floor hidden at all times even after a sweep.
So now I don’t have wbs between my toes and my grain and bulk subs colonize a little slower. It’s all piece of mind. If you like a certain grain and have success stick with it. I’m the type to try everything so I like to mix it up and use all kinds of different grain. But I always go back to the cheapest locally, easiest and least fuckable grain which I feel is oats.
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