Home | Community | Message Board

NorthSpore.com BOOMR Bag!
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract, Kratom Powder For Sale   North Spore Injection Grain Bag, North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Bags

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
OfflineCliftonGK1
Sasquatch
Male


Registered: 03/27/13
Posts: 327
Loc: A place
Last seen: 5 months, 26 days
Weak growth in grain jars
    #26390510 - 12/19/19 11:11 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Will old grains cause weak growth?

I inoculated some BRF jars (TC and B+), and they grew fine.  I transferred some of the colonized BRF material to grain jars, but it seems slow and weak in its growth rate.
The remainder material in the BRF jars pinned, so I don't think it's an issue regarding the spore source.
My grains get an overnight soak, routine sterilization, and have filter-disc lids.  Jars are kept in a room at 75% humidity, mild circulating air, 12-on/12-off lighting, and room temp is 75F +/-2F


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMycoactive
Scientist
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/20/19
Posts: 185
Last seen: 27 days, 58 minutes
Re: Weak growth in grain jars [Re: CliftonGK1]
    #26390528 - 12/19/19 11:24 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

CliftonGK1 said:
Will old grains cause weak growth?

I inoculated some BRF jars (TC and B+), and they grew fine.  I transferred some of the colonized BRF material to grain jars, but it seems slow and weak in its growth rate.
The remainder material in the BRF jars pinned, so I don't think it's an issue regarding the spore source.
My grains get an overnight soak, routine sterilization, and have filter-disc lids.  Jars are kept in a room at 75% humidity, mild circulating air, 12-on/12-off lighting, and room temp is 75F +/-2F




They'd have to be REALLY old (years) to have substantial nutrient loss, so it shouldn't be an age-related thing. Sometimes a change in nutrients (e.g., going from BRF to grain) can slow growth for a bit as the myc has to start producing some different enzymes to digest the new food source. Your process sounds good to me. I'd just give it time and see if things speed up.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCliftonGK1
Sasquatch
Male


Registered: 03/27/13
Posts: 327
Loc: A place
Last seen: 5 months, 26 days
Re: Weak growth in grain jars [Re: Mycoactive]
    #26390554 - 12/19/19 11:37 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Mycoactive said:

They'd have to be REALLY old (years) to have substantial nutrient loss, so it shouldn't be an age-related thing. Sometimes a change in nutrients (e.g., going from BRF to grain) can slow growth for a bit as the myc has to start producing some different enzymes to digest the new food source. Your process sounds good to me. I'd just give it time and see if things speed up.




These were the tail end of a bag which was somewhere between 15 and 18 months old.  So since you've mentioned *years*, it might be the case that these were a bit on the degraded side.  They looked OK; no bugs, no mold/must, no funky smell.
I've received a new bag and I'm starting a soak today.  I'll see how one jar from each set does on a G2G split into the new batch.

Thanks!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMycoactive
Scientist
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/20/19
Posts: 185
Last seen: 27 days, 58 minutes
Re: Weak growth in grain jars [Re: CliftonGK1]
    #26390557 - 12/19/19 11:39 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

CliftonGK1 said:
Quote:

Mycoactive said:

They'd have to be REALLY old (years) to have substantial nutrient loss, so it shouldn't be an age-related thing. Sometimes a change in nutrients (e.g., going from BRF to grain) can slow growth for a bit as the myc has to start producing some different enzymes to digest the new food source. Your process sounds good to me. I'd just give it time and see if things speed up.




These were the tail end of a bag which was somewhere between 15 and 18 months old.  So since you've mentioned *years*, it might be the case that these were a bit on the degraded side.  They looked OK; no bugs, no mold/must, no funky smell.
I've received a new bag and I'm starting a soak today.  I'll see how one jar from each set does on a G2G split into the new batch.

Thanks!




Sounds interesting. I'm curious to see the comparison. Please post when you have results!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleSmartattack
C'mon man
 User Gallery


Registered: 12/21/18
Posts: 3,775
Loc: A thought
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Weak growth in grain jars [Re: CliftonGK1]
    #26390558 - 12/19/19 11:39 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

99% chance it's your culture and not your grain. Standing by that number.😉


--------------------
* Smarts videos :teacher:
* :thumbup: Planet of the APES:thumbup:
 
I'm a fungal white supremacist.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCliftonGK1
Sasquatch
Male


Registered: 03/27/13
Posts: 327
Loc: A place
Last seen: 5 months, 26 days
Re: Weak growth in grain jars [Re: Smartattack]
    #26390583 - 12/19/19 11:48 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Smartattack said:
99% chance it's your culture and not your grain. Standing by that number.😉




Always a possibility.  I just thought it odd that it grew plenty strong on BRF, then just puttered along when transferred to grain.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract, Kratom Powder For Sale   North Spore Injection Grain Bag, North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Bags


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* When to case grain jars shianggu 3,181 1 04/30/02 07:23 AM
by humplok4201
* Need help rye grain jars not using a casing layer *DELETED* *DELETED* Tommyb340 1,705 3 01/24/02 10:05 PM
by Azure
* growth in jars BeppoMarx 962 4 09/25/01 01:00 PM
by BeppoMarx
* Slow mycelium growth in jars ArmedLiberals 28,541 10 09/21/01 06:09 PM
by ArmedLiberals
* Need recipe for rye grain jars half pint *DELETED* Tommyb340 1,748 3 01/14/02 01:08 AM
by carbonhoots
* Mixed grain jars, problems SThomas 1,763 2 01/14/02 07:41 PM
by SThomas
* Re: Need some help...no growth in jars BoomerZ 1,016 4 07/25/00 12:31 AM
by BoomerZ
* Re: Need some help...no growth in jars 3DSHROOM 617 2 07/25/00 01:25 AM
by snarf

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
167 topic views. 24 members, 212 guests and 41 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.027 seconds spending 0.011 seconds on 14 queries.