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Suppository shroom dosage
#26389328 - 12/18/19 06:32 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Do I need more or less than an oral dose to achieve the same effects? Never tried it but my wife got the idea after looking at all the penis envy porn on here.
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Re: Suppository shroom dosage [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26389334 - 12/18/19 06:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Is this a joke, or are you being serious? Lol. If one is really wanting to "boof" mushrooms, just make a concentrated tea perhaps? Or stick to 4-ACO-DMT. Never stick mushrooms up your bum bum.
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Re: Suppository shroom dosage [Re: Sabnock]
#26389424 - 12/18/19 07:24 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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If it does work, maybe it cuts out the nausea from highers doses?
Edited by Psilosion (12/18/19 07:24 PM)
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Re: Suppository shroom dosage [Re: Psilosion]
#26389449 - 12/18/19 07:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was dead serious
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Re: Suppository shroom dosage [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26389677 - 12/18/19 09:49 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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There is a very detailed reddit post somewhere where the guy describes the whole process in great detail. He swore it was the best way to consume if I recall. Haha. To each their own I suppose.
I'll see if I can find it.
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I swear I read a article awhile back saying the Aztecs would take them rectally cant seem to find it now
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He's got an article about the Mayans using enemas too. Hmm. Interesting stuff. You guys have fun.
http://www.strangehistory.net/2013/05/31/vision-quest-2-the-rainbow-enema/
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Oh man. Now we have a vaginal and anal tek
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Re: Suppository shroom dosage [Re: Smartattack]
#26390229 - 12/19/19 07:44 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why are there medical suppositories if it wouldn't make sense? Rectal dosing is a thing with some substances.
Some drugs simply have a higher bioavailability if taken rectal as an enema. So you need less of a dose and it usually comes on faster, and skips stomache nausea. Many advantages, but unnecessary disgust keeps most people stay away from that roa.
Doesn't work with all drugs of course.
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Re: Suppository shroom dosage [Re: Pandemoon] 2
#26390451 - 12/19/19 10:38 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Guess it's like literally being probed by an alien at that point.
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Point of clarification, the suppository is the liquid (like shroom tea condensed down). No one is recommending sticking mushrooms up there.
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Isn't the liver involved in metabolizing psilocybin?
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Quote:
Vibe_Enthusiast said: Oh man. Now we have a vaginal and anal tek 
Hahahaha!
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Re: Suppository shroom dosage [Re: Asura]
#26391143 - 12/19/19 05:37 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Asura said: Isn't the liver involved in metabolizing psilocybin?
this is exactly what i was thinking i thought the liver turned psilocybin into psilocin
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Re: Suppository shroom dosage [Re: insutama] 1
#26391187 - 12/19/19 05:58 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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if the liver was metabolizing pslocybin then IVing 4-acO-DMT wouldnt work, i am guessing
im waiting for the ultimate thread. "Lets boof cactus! thread"
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Re: Suppository shroom dosage [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26391483 - 12/19/19 08:46 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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A friend of mine tried to pour some dmt reduction of sorts in his butt ..but he said his bhole puckered shut like a million lemons were juiced in there and he couldnt 'hold' the dose.
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Re: Suppository shroom dosage [Re: mushboy]
#26391525 - 12/19/19 09:07 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just hammer a nice wrist sized melmac up there and let it simmer then give a full detailed report after.
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Quote:
Hillbillyjohn said: Just hammer a nice wrist sized melmac up there and let it simmer then give a full detailed report after.
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Re: Suppository shroom dosage [Re: Psilosion]
#26391818 - 12/20/19 02:52 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I dont even know what to say on this thread .-. I have one question tho...ANYBODY HASH A TRHIP REPORTH OF THISH?!?!
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Re: Suppository shroom dosage [Re: Mariochi64]
#26392319 - 12/20/19 11:32 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mariochi64 said: I dont even know what to say on this thread .-. I have one question tho...ANYBODY HASH A TRHIP REPORTH OF THISH?!?!
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Posted byu/Boofotenine
There are many good ways to use mushrooms, but only one best way. yesterdays post, if you missed it
So a few days ago I was reading about traditional shamanic use of plant medicines when I came across an off hand comment about the apparently common practice of the entheogenic enema. I did some research and found that apparently, some people boof DMT. why? idk. but it got me thinking that if you could do it with DMT then why not 4-HO-DMT aka psilocin? I work basically exclusively with the mushroom these days, but I've always had the hardest time with the nausea. sensitive stomach I guess.
I digress. I decided to conduct the experiment myself for science.
immediately after posting yesterday I began brewing a low potency tea. Knowing that rectal absorption is much more efficient than oral, I didn't want to over shoot my mark. I am returning to the mushroom after integrating its last lesson, which took several months. so I simply wanted to "break open the head" as they say, rather than break through. I opted for 1 gram cracker dry cubensis for proof of concept. Later, once i realized it was working I upped the dose to 3g.
The Azz-Tek:
basically just make tea (minus the tea bag, ginger, ect) with just enough water so that the mushroom powder is floating. I mean like 1cm in the bottom of a sauce pan. steep 20 mins on low, stirring now and then. strain with a coffee filter. let cool. Now boof it. I recommend either an enema kit (most walmarts have em. just empty it out if its prefilled) or a large syringe (without the needle of course). Lube things well unless you hate yourself.
The Trip Report
11:45 - 1g dose administered. went much more smoothly than id expected.
11:47- went onto the back porch to smoke a doob and wait.
11:52- Maybe it's just this weed but I'm feeling antsy and this music (my sleeping karma) sounds amazing. it's a warm sunny day with fluffy stacks of white clouds. perfect for tripping.
11:58- increased visual acuity and slight visual changes. going in to take a shower, a wonderful come up activity btw.
12:13- shower was amazing. I've already reached the place I would expect from this dose, but with no indication from the body that I have ingested anything, aside from the visuals and the high obviously. Zero nausea, zero body load, zero anxiety.
12:27- preparing another dose. now that I have proof of concept I decided I wanted a heavier experience, since I have only had positive indications thus far. hands are a bit shaky.
12:40- second dose (2g) administered. I am already exactly where I'd expect to be from the first dose, maybe a little beyond in fact. trails, slight movement, heightened senses, unmistakably fungal headspace ect.
1:47- Case closed my friends, this works extremely well. I have had no overpowering urge to use the bathroom due to the relatively small number of mls I used, plus I think I was a bit dehydrated so the bowel did what the bowel does and absorbed the water.
3:33-- It hit me pretty good after the second dose. I got hit with a wall of ineffable beauty. Definitely one of the most intense experiences I've had from this size dose (3g). The visuals were fantastic. I began a conversation with this "voice" I always experience on mushrooms. It began speaking to me in rhyme, creating the most wonderful and poignant poetry. I was able to write some of it down. A few themes came to the surface. Trust, being the major one. this cant really be put into words so ill just leave it be.
4:06- Putting the lid back on. integrating things. trying to make sense of it all, and realizing that it doesn't need to make sense. trusting it. lots of laughter.
4:47- I'm basically back now.
All in all it was a great experience with zero adverse effects. The come up was seemless, lasting only 15mins. The trip lasted 4.5 hours total, and was a dream come true for ya boi who can't keep em down the old fashioned way.
I know it's a hard swallow (not literally of course) for many people, but this might be the best way to take mushrooms. The experience was much "cleaner", so much so that it reminded me of good LSD. It's a game changer. I urge others to open their hearts, minds, and bootyholes to this experience, and report back! (and tag me!)
A few thoughts before I go. There was some debate whether this would even work due to the fact that normally psilocybin is broken down to psilocin in ones stomach acids. Well, I can attest that it did in fact work without the need to acidify the solution with the lemon tek as many suggested.
u/AnhedonicsAnonymous provided a reason for this, saying "As far as metabolism is concerned, psilocybin is dephosphorylated by alkaline phosphatase which is found all throughout the human body. So you should be good with that whole part of the ordeal" However I suspect that if lemon was used it would still further intensify the experience and speed up absorption. The only issue is that the high acidity might irritate the colon, so the solution would need to be basified before use. Perhaps with crushed calcium carbonate capsules (tums, essentially). Now while I might be ok with putting psilocybin up there, I need to do more research before I would be comfortable using the aforementioned additives.
If there are some brave voyagers out there who want to help me delve into this, other variations of this tek which warrant investigation include:
-The use of lemon or another weak acid
-use of lemon with calcium bicarbonate or other base.
-using more water (greater surface area for absorption)
-using less water (solution is more concentrated)
-alcohol extraction (will probably get you drunk too so be careful not to use much)
- Combining with MAOI extraction like syrian rue tea
Finally, I conducted this experiment because I believe it to be our duty as psychonauts, and hyperspacial explorers, to push the boundaries. Despite psilocin (4-H0-DMT) being my favorite molecule by far I recognize its flaws, which are many (body load, anxiety, slow absorption, nausea and cramping). However with a little understanding of the brain and body, we as psychonauts can discover the route by which the most wisdom can be extracted from these states of consciousness.
Thanks for reading, I Love you all.
PS. Be on the lookout in the next few weeks for a follow up trip report. Next up is a heroic dose!
Be well my friends.
Trip report for the Azz-Tek. haha
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Re: Suppository shroom dosage [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26392846 - 12/20/19 05:45 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just run naked to an amanita patch and sit on the biggest one.
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