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Re: Guide me through my first grow pretty please? [Re: McDominator]
    #26388159 - 12/18/19 06:08 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

You don't want allot of substrate moisture, better to be drier than wet. How was the field capacity of this substrate?


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Re: Guide me through my first grow pretty please? [Re: Crackatoa]
    #26388224 - 12/18/19 07:14 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Being new to this, I just watched some videos on field capacity. I saw that when you squeeze pretty damn hard that basically only a few drops come out. So that's what I shot for. Seemed too dry to me, but I didn't want to screw with it. But I'm wondering if I want to go slightly wetter with the pasty tub seeing as it has a decent amount of FAE right from the start.


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Re: Guide me through my first grow pretty please? [Re: McDominator]
    #26388322 - 12/18/19 08:37 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It may be fine. I've always found over doesn't capacity gives me really short fruits. I had a canopy of Costa Rica that were all 1-1.5 inches tall. You'll notice to that sometimes the top will seem a little dry but once it starts to colonize your mycellium on top will start having moisture if that makes sense.

Not the best pic, but you can see the coir looks a little dry much the mycellium has droplets of moisture.


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Re: Guide me through my first grow pretty please? [Re: Crackatoa]
    #26388365 - 12/18/19 09:15 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

First of all, thank you for sticking with me on this. I really appreciate all of the insight here :smile: I'm highly motivated to be a good grower and you are definitely helping the cause :smile:

My mycelium wasn't building up a lot of water and that's why I ended up misting a bit. But now that I'm thinking of it, my friend likes to keep his room pretty warm. I'm wondering if there is no condensation forming on the sub because of the warmer air having a larger capacity to hold onto water? Hmmm.


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Re: Guide me through my first grow pretty please? [Re: McDominator]
    #26388374 - 12/18/19 09:20 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

No problem, I like to see people succeed. It's possible. I try to keep mine around 75. But if it's not holding humidity, take up some holes. I use a regular mono setup and double layer my bottom holes till pinset and then I go to one layer on bottom and take off the the tape in the side upper holes.


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Re: Guide me through my first grow pretty please? [Re: Crackatoa]
    #26388608 - 12/18/19 11:55 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Got it! Thank you for the info! I think I will do just that and tape off some holes next time.

The temp on the little thermometer read 77 degrees last time I looked and the tubs are sitting right next to a giant baseboard so I'm sure that is not helping. For the most part the sides stayed wet, just the sub seemed dry the whole time.

Is it normal for the substrate to shrink before the first flush even comes in? Seems some have shrunk down a bit.

Live and learn :smile: this has been a great learning experience overall


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Re: Guide me through my first grow pretty please? [Re: McDominator]
    #26388612 - 12/18/19 11:58 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yep it’ll shrink and tighten up as the myc colonizes it.


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Re: Guide me through my first grow pretty please? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26388720 - 12/18/19 01:12 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Yep it’ll shrink and tighten up as the myc colonizes it.




Great, thanks! I thought premature shrinkage might be another sign it was not at field capacity. Good to know this is normal behavior.


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Re: Guide me through my first grow pretty please? [Re: McDominator]
    #26394266 - 12/21/19 03:59 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Guys, what causes thick fluffy mycelium? And is it a bad thing?



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Re: Guide me through my first grow pretty please? [Re: McDominator]
    #26394598 - 12/21/19 08:06 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

That's mold


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Re: Guide me through my first grow pretty please? [Re: Mycologist217]
    #26395049 - 12/22/19 06:46 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Dang. You're sure? I posted like 5 pics of these tubs and nobody picked up on that the entire time. Even pasty. Maybe they just were not good pics :frown: I think all of my tubs have big fluffy white stuff like this. That's a sad story

Edit: Do you think it is more likely that this is because they are in the basement? Or is it more likely that it was dirty spawn?


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Re: Guide me through my first grow pretty please? [Re: McDominator]
    #26395126 - 12/22/19 08:08 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I’ve had small patches of myc like that pop up in between flushes while it regroups but only here and there. I wonder how those pins will do


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Re: Guide me through my first grow pretty please? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26398877 - 12/24/19 09:23 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

OKAY. Update fellas. My friend and I have been busy..... HARVESTING. We aren't going to get a lot for how many tubs we have. HOPING for 10oz dried. 10oz from 5 tubs is no bueno in my book. So I have big plans for the next grow. Also, the white fluffy stuff in the pic I posted is definitely just thick mycelium. I plucked some and played with it. It's just like the rubbery skin of a mush. I still have no idea why that happened but I'm working on figuring it out.


Here are some of my thoughts for any other newbs out there who may end up reading this:

Things that I learned the hard way:

1) I think the definition of "field capacity" I found was a bit on the dry side for my environment. So next time, I'm going a little wetter.

2) It's hard to judge what you did incorrectly and know enough to correct it on the first grow. You want your babies to have everything they need, but try your hardest not to sweat it if you screw up and know there's always next time.

3) Find a tub design that you think will work for you and stick with it. If one tub didn't work, try to figure out why and make small tweaks. If you change too many things at once you won't know what works and there's the potential for other things to mess up the next grow. There's also the possibility of over correcting a problem.

4) Don't be afraid to experiment!

My next grow I'm going to have different tubs in different configurations. All the same Pasty EZ Dialed design, with varying amounts of tape over holes, and in different places in the house. Maybe even one with a casing layer. Then I'm not going to touch a damn thing. No misting, no opening the lids, NOTHING. The one that grows the best wins as the low maintenance configuration going forward.

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I’ve had small patches of myc like that pop up in between flushes while it regroups but only here and there. I wonder how those pins will do




That tub is not pinning well at all.


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Re: Guide me through my first grow pretty please? [Re: McDominator]
    #26412138 - 01/02/20 09:10 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Can one of yous guys answer a dumb question for me?

In my months of reading I haven't come across this tidbit of information, I just read this for the first time:

Are we supposed to put a top layer of substrate over the exposed grains after mixing in the spawn? I've heard of a casing layer, but I thought this was something else.


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Re: Guide me through my first grow pretty please? [Re: McDominator]
    #26412206 - 01/02/20 09:44 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Casing and top layer are different.

I’ve found a top layer to help a lot. Just mix up your sub and spawn like normal and level it out, then add about 1/3 inch layer of coir or whatever you use on top of that and level it again. I have very low humidity and this makes a world of difference for me.

Casing is usually a layer of peat moss and verm applied the same way as a top layer.


I had the same problem with field capacity too. Either I was squeezing too hard when i checked or because of how dry my room is, but that was something I figured out a few shoeboxes in and my first flush weights prob went up 50% lol.

I agree with not messing with things or worrying about them, which is sooo much easier once you’ve got some shrooms. My first grow I couldn’t stop messing with.


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Re: Guide me through my first grow pretty please? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26412240 - 01/02/20 10:10 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Casing and top layer are different.

I’ve found a top layer to help a lot. Just mix up your sub and spawn like normal and level it out, then add about 1/3 inch layer of coir or whatever you use on top of that and level it again. I have very low humidity and this makes a world of difference for me.

Casing is usually a layer of peat moss and verm applied the same way as a top layer.


I had the same problem with field capacity too. Either I was squeezing too hard when i checked or because of how dry my room is, but that was something I figured out a few shoeboxes in and my first flush weights prob went up 50% lol.

I agree with not messing with things or worrying about them, which is sooo much easier once you’ve got some shrooms. My first grow I couldn’t stop messing with.




Sweet dude. Thank you, I will do just that for next time :smile:

And that makes me feel better about my decision on the field capacity!!

Cheers


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