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OfflineToad123
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My Mushrooms Have Mange
    #26386625 - 12/17/19 08:16 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I tried searching, but havent seen anything similar. Anyone know what this is?



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Re: My Mushrooms Have Mange [Re: Toad123]
    #26386633 - 12/17/19 08:26 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Looks like psuedomonas


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Re: My Mushrooms Have Mange [Re: StrohngBahd]
    #26386639 - 12/17/19 08:30 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

:whathesaid:


it is also a symptom of lecanicillium fungicola however, way more likely to be pseudomonas if it was the former you would have other symptoms like wilting/falling over fruits, hairlip mutations on the caps, splitting/peeling stipe or "blown out" stipes


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Re: My Mushrooms Have Mange [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26386705 - 12/17/19 09:24 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It appears to be too humid in that tub but sh4d0ws sounds like he knows your specific problem so I'll just leave my :2cents:

BLiNK


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Re: My Mushrooms Have Mange [Re: BLINKfan420]
    #26386725 - 12/17/19 09:36 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Did a search for psuedomonas, and found some similar pictures. Can it spread to other cakes? Should i go ahead and harvest them now, or wait for them to finish? I see conflicting information about whether theyre save to ingest. Some say to make tea or put them in a 250 degree oven. I was wondering about the humidity as well, since there is also fuzzy mycelium growing on the stems. The cakes are in a sgfc on about 6 inches of perlite. I mist the sides of the container and perlite 3-4 times a day to keep the rh at 99. I thought you wanted to keep humidity as high as possible. This is my first "successful" grow, if you can call it that lol.


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Re: My Mushrooms Have Mange [Re: Toad123]
    #26386745 - 12/17/19 09:47 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Toad123 said:
Did a search for psuedomonas, and found some similar pictures. Can it spread to other cakes? Should i go ahead and harvest them now, or wait for them to finish? I see conflicting information about whether theyre save to ingest. Some say to make tea or put them in a 250 degree oven. I was wondering about the humidity as well, since there is also fuzzy mycelium growing on the stems. The cakes are in a sgfc on about 6 inches of perlite. I mist the sides of the container and perlite 3-4 times a day to keep the rh at 99. I thought you wanted to keep humidity as high as possible. This is my first "successful" grow, if you can call it that lol.




I got this on one of my tubs pretty bad too...

Bod says once they are dried they are fine but also says "not worth it to him" so I dont know why he would say that unless the bacteria can be harmful... that's my main concern.

Can anyone else elaborate on the safety of consuming said mushrooms


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Re: My Mushrooms Have Mange [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26386758 - 12/17/19 09:56 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

For what it's worth, I've eaten a number of fruits affected by pseudomonas and suffered no ill effects whatsoever.  Strains are found growing on everything (including us), so for a healthy individual- as with anything relative- it poses no real risk.  Best to isolate and scrub the lab, however.


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Re: My Mushrooms Have Mange [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #26386765 - 12/17/19 09:59 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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alaskappalachian said:
For what it's worth, I've eaten a number of fruits affected by pseudomonas and suffered no ill effects whatsoever.  Strains are found growing on everything (including us), so for a healthy individual- as with anything relative- it poses no real risk.  Best to isolate and scrub the lab, however.




Oh shit really... r u saying its risky having a tub of this growing next to another healthy tub?

Dont growing conditions have to be (im)perfect for that bacteria to grow like that on your fruits?

Or is it able to just overrun your op?


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Re: My Mushrooms Have Mange [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26386786 - 12/17/19 10:12 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

After doing some reading I'm seeing mixed opinions about how this stuff spreads and whether or not one infected tub/cake poses a threat to the others around it

I read that it can spread throughout the sub tho so if you have one fruit with it you'll more than likely see more soon.

I just dont know whether or not to dump my entire tub with it?

I thought bacteria was almost never airborne..
Help please!


Edited by SpunkyMonkey88 (12/17/19 10:14 AM)


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Re: My Mushrooms Have Mange [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26386800 - 12/17/19 10:19 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It can definitely spread.  Tossing out infected tubs or cakes and doing a good top-to-bottom fixed the problem for me, but it definitely warrants that attention imo.


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Re: My Mushrooms Have Mange [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26386814 - 12/17/19 10:27 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

SpunkyMonkey88 said:
After doing some reading I'm seeing mixed opinions about how this stuff spreads and whether or not one infected tub/cake poses a threat to the others around it

I read that it can spread throughout the sub tho so if you have one fruit with it you'll more than likely see more soon.

I just dont know whether or not to dump my entire tub with it?

I thought bacteria was almost never airborne..
Help please!




I'd just let the tub fruit away from my main area and harvest like usual, taking care to do my work in the correct order so as to not handle my infected tub before handling my other grows.  Everything microscopic can become airborne, but I worry more about direct contact causing cross-contamination.


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Re: My Mushrooms Have Mange [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26386817 - 12/17/19 10:27 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It wont stop spreading in that tub. The likelihood of it spreading to another tub is small, so long as you don't go handling uninfected things after you've handled infected things. Otherwise, your other tubs should be fine. Seeing as even things that sporulate (like trichoderma) won't necessarily spread from tub to tub, bacteria should stay fairly isolated so long as no physical transference takes place.


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Re: My Mushrooms Have Mange [Re: footpath]
    #26386929 - 12/17/19 12:00 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

These babies were ready to harvest. I used a soft bristle brush to remove the little bits of verm. These spots peeled off when brushed, the stem looked healthy underneath. Im curious to see if the second flush is going to do the same.


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Re: My Mushrooms Have Mange [Re: Toad123]
    #26386945 - 12/17/19 12:11 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Toad123 said:
These babies were ready to harvest. I used a soft bristle brush to remove the little bits of verm. These spots peeled off when brushed, the stem looked healthy underneath. Im curious to see if the second flush is going to do the same.




Ya dude definitely let us know I'm curious as well.


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Re: My Mushrooms Have Mange [Re: StrohngBahd]
    #26386982 - 12/17/19 12:31 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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StrohngBahd said:
Looks like psuedomonas




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