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ichugwindex
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You're right. Its spiritually fucked up for others to decide what I can/cannot build and it's literally my god given right to build any structure however I want withought the intervention of these spiritually deprived militant atheists.
These building "codes" are standing between me and jesus and that's that.
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Edited by ichugwindex (12/17/19 01:10 AM)
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unam sanctum


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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: ichugwindex]
#26386275 - 12/17/19 01:11 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Depends on where you be. I think a lot of (residential) places outside of major cities would not require any sincere sense of operational security regarding the evasion of new construction not up to code...I also think the point of the code is to protect you and yours from dying in a horrific fire or collapse; but use your best judgement. Obviously the permitting costs associated are utterly non-libertarian but the principle of the matter basically stems from near miss reports and "green sheets" in the fire service industry. One or more firefighters + civilians have died for every incident that somehow becomes code.
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: ichugwindex]
#26386281 - 12/17/19 01:17 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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In aus if it stands unnoticed for 10 years it's considered retroactively approved. Loads of people do extensions without development approval here. You could check out your local legislation, and see if there's something similar.
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ichugwindex
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: unam sanctum]
#26386289 - 12/17/19 01:20 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here it is again "codes"
Codes for satan himself. Every line of this hateful scripture of "building code" and "property rights" keeps us away from the Allmaker himself
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Edited by ichugwindex (12/17/19 01:21 AM)
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ichugwindex
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: brk]
#26386347 - 12/17/19 02:20 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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So what's up with this tithe just to continue on? They could pay for the whole goddamn planet just off sales taxQuote:
brk said: In aus if it stands unnoticed for 10 years it's considered retroactively approved. Loads of people do extensions without development approval here. You could check out your local legislation, and see if there's something similar.
So if I can survive the ubsurd video game tier wildlife I can build whatever? If so maybe I'll say "my flock and I" when referring to building projects.
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Edited by ichugwindex (12/17/19 02:21 AM)
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: ichugwindex]
#26386367 - 12/17/19 02:53 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Because people always manage to fuck shit up in impressively improbable ways.
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"In aus if it stands unnoticed for 10 years it's considered retroactively approved"
I'd be careful with that shit. I used to work for the city and lots of times you'd discover work done with no permit. Then it's like that pool you built is one foot too close to the house, fill it in and start again. I still talk to people who work there now they check your property via satellite don't even need to visit.
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: viraldrome] 2
#26386647 - 12/17/19 08:39 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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There were several really really bad fires and collapses at the turn of the last century that created the modern building codes we see today. If you look them up some of them were like hundreds of people died in a clip. we still see this sometimes in other countries with less strict fire and building codes where there'll be a major collapse and mad ppl die. The engineering or rather lack there of and physics on some of these that cause some of the most fantastic catastrophic structural failures are truly fascinating. But yeah I think it was mostly the fires and things like dams and bridges going that did it. Chicago, Baltimore, San Fran. Hell the great molasses flood of Boston which reached its centennial this year. The St. Fransis dam. South Fork dam of 1889 more than 2000 lost, unbelievable devistation. Of course one can never forget the Iroquois Theater fire. I believe it was something like 600 people died that night. I mean that's pretty extreme.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chicago_Fire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Fire_of_New_York_(1776)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Fire_of_Pittsburgh
Here's a few of those fires, and without building codes we'd likely see more.
The "i don't see how it benefits me so it should be abolished" attitude really only proves how myopic people can be.
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: christopera]
#26386728 - 12/17/19 09:38 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: PopaCap]
#26387152 - 12/17/19 02:13 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
PopaCap said: Building codes exist in case Billy Bob Buttfuck and his unclebrother decide to build their own house. Then when they hear gators is goin for two shillins more on the other side of the bayou and decide to move, the nice couple that buys their house has more than their word to go on that the ceiling fan isn’t gonna cut their infant’s head off when one of them flushes the toilet.
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lovecheese
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so contractors don’t cut corners and destroy lives/homes/businesses/cities for a little extra profit
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larry.fisherman
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: lovecheese]
#26388428 - 12/18/19 09:53 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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What about incidents like that club that went up in flames and people couldn't get out because they were over capacity and everyone was struggling to get everyone else out of their way?
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: lovecheese]
#26388430 - 12/18/19 09:55 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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lovecheese said: so contractors don’t cut corners and destroy lives/homes/businesses/cities for a little extra profit
Sometimes, that's why their work is supposed to be checked by inspectors. Contractors usually know where they can safely cut corners and they definitely don't cut as many as a homeowner would.
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: Lophosaurus]
#26388464 - 12/18/19 10:20 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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yah but that's not even why tho cuz for a while if you ripped people off with shotty work you were considered just a savvy businessman. it took people fucking dying a bunch for laws to actually come down on it.
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You have clearly never seen the cardboard hillside city in Tijuana. Big rains of 1995 washed a slurry of mud cardboard and people down the river/street.
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: MycoBrainz] 1
#26388491 - 12/18/19 10:37 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Im all for building codes not existing. It would let natural selection work at a faster pace
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Lophosaurus
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Quote:
CHeifM4sterDiezL said: yah but that's not even why tho cuz for a while if you ripped people off with shotty work you were considered just a savvy businessman. it took people fucking dying a bunch for laws to actually come down on it.
No, ripping people off was never considered being a savvy business man. Yes, some codes are made because people have died and others are to prevent death or injury. When electricians first started installing lines I think about 50% of them would die on the job because it wasn't fully understood yet.
IMO not wanting bulding and local codes is really dumb. It effects everybody, not just the people living in a shitty house. In some cases government regulation is great, and this is one of those cases.
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: Lophosaurus] 1
#26388817 - 12/18/19 02:02 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Building codes are the difference between near total destruction in Port-au-Prince after a 7.0 earthquake and almost no destruction after a 9.0 in Tokyo.
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: koods]
#26388822 - 12/18/19 02:04 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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That is not a fair comparison.... If I had gundams none of my shit would break either
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