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ichugwindex
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Why do building codes exist?
#26385930 - 12/16/19 08:16 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I feel like I should be able to build whatever the fuck I want without government intervention. Like as long as nobody is getting hurt but even then it should be like a waiver or something. I once had a boss tell me that if anyone comes to the job site and asks for a building permit that I'm supposed to say "it's back where you came from"
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: ichugwindex] 2
#26385978 - 12/16/19 08:33 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think it used to be more common for big out of control fires to rage across cities when it was more "anything goes."
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: ichugwindex] 3
#26385983 - 12/16/19 08:36 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Usually because structures have collapsed, burned, or other and people have died.
Same with safety codes in the work place and aviation laws. All those stupid rules are because someone fucked up and a bunch of people died.
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Building codes exist in case Billy Bob Buttfuck and his unclebrother decide to build their own house. Then when they hear gators is goin for two shillins more on the other side of the bayou and decide to move, the nice couple that buys their house has more than their word to go on that the ceiling fan isn’t gonna cut their infant’s head off when one of them flushes the toilet.
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: PopaCap]
#26386068 - 12/16/19 09:26 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I feel like a waiver solves this problem. Bulldoze the building or achnowlage what the building actually IS
I feel like it's just another excuse for the government to stick its thumb in my pie when sales tax covers everything they or their grandchildren could ever hope for.
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: ichugwindex]
#26386075 - 12/16/19 09:31 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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ichugwindex said: I feel like a waiver solves this problem. Bulldoze the building or achnowlage what the building actually IS
I feel like it's just another excuse for the government to stick its thumb in my pie when sales tax covers everything they or their grandchildren could ever hope for.
that's big government for ya
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: Niffla] 1
#26386079 - 12/16/19 09:34 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Niffla. You rock.
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: ichugwindex] 5
#26386084 - 12/16/19 09:38 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Would you let your neighbour set up an make shift oil refinery next door? No? So maybe you need zoning laws.
Would you risk him burning down the neighbourhood with makeshift electrical work? No maybe electrical code and inspectors are needed
He didn't want to pay for plumbing and sewage, so now he's got a lagoon of shit in the backyard. Sound like fun?
Sure plumbing code about having the drain exactly 16 inches from whatever seems arbitrary and stupid, but craftsmen that know what the fuck they are doing for decades have made these recommendations and they are the best practices that save lives and keep society going.
If you want to spackle together a shack you can move out to the sticks and no one will probably care. If you are too cheap to pay to have it done to the bare minimum standard, that's too bad. It isn't all about you. There are counties you can live in that don't require building permits, inspectors or any of that shit, but buyer beware. Who knows what you are getting and houses in those counties don't hold their value worth a shit because no one knows what has been done to a property.
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ichugwindex
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I mean as soon is it effects someone outside if the property sure crucify them. But if I wanna build sections onto my home what's the big deal? Why does the city/state get a cut for shit that doesnt involve them? I love that the whole "omg just move countries" thing is being pushed on people that could never afford to leave. That's a big part of the problem. Many people who would love to flee the country are stuck here because its stay VS starve
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: ichugwindex] 1
#26386100 - 12/16/19 09:48 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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He said counties.
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: psi]
#26386104 - 12/16/19 09:49 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Still applicable
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This answer is pretty obvious. Most people don't know how to build, plumb, wire, roof, and so on. I'm an electrical contractor and have seen a lot of fucked up stuff. 70% of my job is fixing something that someone else did and didn't know what they were doing or took a dangerous shortcut. Even a lot of contractors fuck stuff up and the inspector usually catches it, but when he doesn't then there are expensive repairs, total losses, and death.
When you're a contractor and work with the same inspectors all the time then they get to know your work and work ethic. If they like your work then they stop looking at your job because they know you did it right and that is when it gets dangerous.
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: Lophosaurus]
#26386137 - 12/16/19 10:12 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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So what I want accounts for 70% (these are your numbers) of your job but you are still apposed to it?
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: ichugwindex]
#26386146 - 12/16/19 10:32 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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ichugwindex said: I mean as soon is it effects someone outside if the property sure crucify them. But if I wanna build sections onto my home what's the big deal? Why does the city/state get a cut for shit that doesnt involve them? I love that the whole "omg just move countries" thing is being pushed on people that could never afford to leave. That's a big part of the problem. Many people who would love to flee the country are stuck here because its stay VS starve
You have no business building sections into your house if you can’t follow simple rules
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: ichugwindex]
#26386163 - 12/16/19 10:57 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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ichugwindex said: So what I want accounts for 70% (these are your numbers) of your job but you are still apposed to it?
Yes. Why, are you thinking that I won't have that 70% of work to do?
This work is stuff that needs to be done so if they don't do it themselves then they will call me to do it and I will do it right the first time. I should say too that most of the time it isn't the homeowner that does it wrong, it is a "Handyman" or an unlicensed "Electrician" that they pay to do it wrong.
Calling me first will save them a lot of money too because it takes the "Handyman" time to do it the wrong way and they usually use the wrong materials. I have to spend time to inspect their work, explain why it is wrong, and then rip out their materials/work and fix whatever they messed up and then throw away their stuff. Then I take time to do it the right way.
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: Lophosaurus]
#26386196 - 12/16/19 11:22 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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A handyman is a jack of all trades, master of none. 
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: psi]
#26386239 - 12/17/19 12:37 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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psi said: I think it used to be more common for big out of control fires to rage across cities when it was more "anything goes."
Didn't have to look far for the correct answer. Besides conflagrations- regular structural/vegetation fires, especially in conjunction with or as a a result of earthquakes or volcanic activity (read: tsunamis/tornadoes as well) are the most direct reasons. On a more practical scale, firefighters are highly concerned with the specific components of individual buildings/structures because the more they know about the construction type and materials, the more of an understanding or reasoning they can exhibit around tactical fireground operations. This pertains to collapse rates/zones, estimated structural integrity timelines, rescue tactics and approaches, water load limitations on structural stability and many more features of the on the ground fireground operational guidelines.
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: unam sanctum]
#26386249 - 12/17/19 12:53 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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You might not be surprised that multiple building collapse/failures especially during otherwise routine fires have been an immediate result of overloading the structure by weight. Overloading of hazardous or flammable materials near key structural connections is another. Everything fails to fire, it's just a matter of time and intensity. Hey, even the twin towers were melted by jet fuel + impact.
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: unam sanctum]
#26386261 - 12/17/19 12:59 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Guess I just have to go super secret to build anything. Nothing wrong with that I guess. Something in the back of my head says it's wrong to have to hide it though
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Re: Why do building codes exist? [Re: ichugwindex]
#26386270 - 12/17/19 01:04 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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So basically konami code fucked da vinci code and that code fucked the code of conduct and that's where building codes come from?
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