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Smoking DMT on Come-Up of Shrooms - decrease potency?
    #26385874 - 12/16/19 07:51 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Hey All - I am planning on taking 5 grams of penis envy tomorrow.  I have never smoked DMT before, but have somehow gotten my hands on some.  If I smoke the DMT shortly after I take the shrooms, will the DMT experience lessen the potency of my shroom trip?  Thanks for any help or personal experience you can offer!


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Re: Smoking DMT on Come-Up of Shrooms - decrease potency? [Re: Rat-a-Tat]
    #26386008 - 12/16/19 08:46 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Cool question.. I've heard smoking dmt once you're already tripping on mushrooms is wonderful, I'm unsure about during the mushroom come up though. Can't imagine it would be unpleasant but might wear you out a bit early on in your trip.

hanging out here to see what some folks say :popcorn: just got dmt myself for the first time in a decade so curious about the molecule too. Congrats on your score


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Re: Smoking DMT on Come-Up of Shrooms - decrease potency? [Re: Rat-a-Tat]
    #26386015 - 12/16/19 08:48 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

If you’ve never used DMT I wouldn’t recommend trying to vape it coming up on something else, you will probably burn and waste it, and be disappointed (which could impact your ride with the shrooms).  Do some research and work on the vape technique is probably best.


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Re: Smoking DMT on Come-Up of Shrooms - decrease potency? [Re: Psicomb] * 2
    #26386031 - 12/16/19 08:59 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

DMT will likely give you a whole lot to think about and integrate... getting your mind blown to peices while coming up on a mushroom dose big enough to rip reality apart for hours seems less than ideal. For me, DMT is perfect when coming down or peaking on smaller doses.

I wouldn't say it lessens the experience if you do it while coming up, I did it once and had just as intense a trip as expected. Things just felt rushed and jumpy with the timing of it all... it was hard to get my bearings.

And I second what the poster above said, the smoking technique can be tough at first which could put you in a weird mindstate


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Re: Smoking DMT on Come-Up of Shrooms - decrease potency? [Re: feevers]
    #26386390 - 12/17/19 03:09 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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DMT will likely give you a whole lot to think about and integrate... getting your mind blown to peices while coming up on a mushroom dose big enough to rip reality apart for hours seems less than ideal. For me, DMT is perfect when coming down or peaking on smaller doses.




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Just sounds like a a bit of a head fuck to me. 5g of PE is a pretty shwifty dose and going in there when recovering from a DMT breakthrough (if you manage to pull it off) might throw you into rough seas. I like getting wild sometimes, but that doesn't sound like fun.


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Re: Smoking DMT on Come-Up of Shrooms - decrease potency? [Re: Psicomb]
    #26386464 - 12/17/19 05:19 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you for all of the reflections.  I bought a vapor genie just for this one dose, so I hope that I can get the technique right as I only have 1 - 60 mg dose.  I am going to wait and do it separately so as to enjoy it and fully integrate instead of stacking.  I think the advise is sound that DMT followed by 5g of PE could be a mind fuck and overload.  Thanks again all!  PS - do you think 1 60 mg dose on a wet pad with a vapor genie is enough to breakthrough?


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Re: Smoking DMT on Come-Up of Shrooms - decrease potency? [Re: Rat-a-Tat]
    #26386470 - 12/17/19 05:41 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

60mg is enough to break you twice, that's pretty deep territory if you hit it just right. Even if you fuck it up it should work pretty good. If you hit it right you will probably think you have died.

Gas jet lighter brought in slowly till it hits the spot, long slow and deep pull, hold it in for a looong time.


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Re: Smoking DMT on Come-Up of Shrooms - decrease potency? [Re: Northerner]
    #26386483 - 12/17/19 06:02 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Ok awesome - thank you for the advise.  I know this is completely personal and individual, but here is my dilemma.  I haven't been able to trip for about 6 months because i haven't had the alone time.  This is the first time I have ever gotten my hands on DMT, I've done about 30 mushroom trips.  If you only had time for 1 - which would you choose?  DMT or Shroom trip?  Considering that I've never tried DMT before.


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Re: Smoking DMT on Come-Up of Shrooms - decrease potency? [Re: Rat-a-Tat] * 2
    #26386530 - 12/17/19 06:59 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I would do the mushies and then smoke the DMT on the come down. :awesome:


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Re: Smoking DMT on Come-Up of Shrooms - decrease potency? [Re: SynKyd]
    #26386906 - 12/17/19 11:45 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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If you’ve never used DMT I wouldn’t recommend trying to vape it coming up on something else, you will probably burn and waste it, and be disappointed (which could impact your ride with the shrooms).  Do some research and work on the vape technique is probably best.





i disagree. people always say how hard it is to smoke dmt. i never had any issue. you put a little weed in a pipe(or ash) about 1/4 of the bowl. then you put a good amount of dmt on top and light the dmt and take huge hits. hold them in as long as you can. then youre off.

you wont burn your dmt or any of that..the real reason people fuck up while smoking dmt is because thy are trying not to burn it which makes them take smaller hits. Go for broke and light that shit like youre taking a big hit of weed.

smoke it on the peak or the comedown of your mushroom trip.


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Re: Smoking DMT on Come-Up of Shrooms - decrease potency? [Re: Northerner]
    #26387666 - 12/17/19 06:51 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I would do the mushies and then smoke the DMT on the come down. :awesome:


   
I did as you suggested - I had an absolutely awesome time on 4.5grams of penis envy - really special.  Then I went for the DMT (first time ever) - I have to say...  I was a little bit underwhelmed.  I definitely broke through and as transported completely out of my body - full on entity in front of me, fabulously colored and moving/shimmering, made up of thousands of different colored shapes.  But it was 2D, and after the insane visuals that I had from the PE, i was left wanting.


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Re: Smoking DMT on Come-Up of Shrooms - decrease potency? [Re: Rat-a-Tat]
    #26388402 - 12/18/19 09:34 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Bet you didn't smoke enough and/or hold the hits in long enough

Everyone is so concerned about burning the DMT that they end up not smoking enough. Just light the DMT and go for broke.


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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Smoking DMT on Come-Up of Shrooms - decrease potency? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26389321 - 12/18/19 06:27 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I reckon that too. When you break through it's not just hypersoup shapes like you described.

Glad you had a good trip anyhow Rat-a-tat. Sounds like an awesome time.  :thumbup:

Are you thinking about extracting your own now you've had a taste?


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Re: Smoking DMT on Come-Up of Shrooms - decrease potency? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26390569 - 12/19/19 11:44 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Bet you didn't smoke enough and/or hold the hits in long enough

Everyone is so concerned about burning the DMT that they end up not smoking enough. Just light the DMT and go for broke.




It could be...  I smoked 60mg from a vapor genie, hit the flame to it straight off, got a huge pull of thick white smoke, held it in for about 15 seconds.  I will try and hold it in for longer next time if I ever end up finding it again.


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