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SpunkyMonkey88
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A question about canning jars
#26385313 - 12/16/19 02:59 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Besides the fact that it will be a pain load the jars is there any reason why I cant use quart jars that are NOT wide neck?
I have a canning jar funnel to make loading them easy but is there something else I'm not considering?
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Regular mouth jars are fine. I think bod uses regular mouth.
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Re: A question about canning jars [Re: SFS96]
#26385336 - 12/16/19 03:12 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ive got a mix of both but mostly reg mouth.
The filters are 10% less expensive for them, and I had this probably hairbrained idea that having a smaller opening would help with contaminants not getting in there.
The wide mouth are marginally easier to work with, I don't have to hold my loading funnel with one hand, and they are a bit easier to empty.
I have to be a careful when loading the PC. I have a 23 quart presto and it holds ten jars, but if the bottom jars are reg mouth then I can't fit 3 wide mouths on top because the reg mouths are like 1 cm taller than the wides and that makes the difference.
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Re: A question about canning jars [Re: JohnRainy]
#26385377 - 12/16/19 03:30 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok thanks guys i was asking because i had lids for the regular mouth jars and only a few wide mouth jar lids and a ton of widemouth jars... but I found some plastic lids for the wide mouth jars and they actually worked fucking nice for making my lids with a SFD and injection port... check it out:
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Yeah man with grains it really isn't a big issue just use what ya got it's not a big enough advantage to spend extra money if you already have jars.
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I gave up on plastic lids awhile ago. Sure they make it easier when you're in the sab, but I started to get contamination problems and decided that they are not secure enough. They worked for awhile but at some point, I think they started to warp slightly I guess from the repeated PCing, and maybe having jars on top of jars in the PC contributed to that, with the weight of the top jars pushing down on the plastic lids below while they are soft from the heat.
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Reg mouth are fine. I like regular mouth for masters and wide mouth for g2g receiving jars. Makes transferring easier. But either way they are fine.
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Re: A question about canning jars [Re: JohnRainy]
#26386420 - 12/17/19 04:14 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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JohnRainy said: I gave up on plastic lids awhile ago. Sure they make it easier when you're in the sab, but I started to get contamination problems and decided that they are not secure enough. They worked for awhile but at some point, I think they started to warp slightly I guess from the repeated PCing, and maybe having jars on top of jars in the PC contributed to that, with the weight of the top jars pushing down on the plastic lids below while they are soft from the heat.
I've never heard that before...pasty uses them and even unscrew them slightly for gas exchange with no issues. It would take a lot of mobility for a contaminant to work it's way up around the threads and into the jar...
I'm not worried about it. I would have to guess it wasn't because of the lids...
I Dunno tho.
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birthing the cakes is way easier with wide mouth.
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shroomgirl645 said: birthing the cakes is way easier with wide mouth.
Iβm running grains yo
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OP is using quart jars for grains, not BRF cakes. I love my plastic lids, and as long as you buy quality ones, it will take a long ass time for them to warp.
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Re: A question about canning jars [Re: PopaCap]
#26386527 - 12/17/19 06:58 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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PopaCap said: OP is using quart jars for grains, not BRF cakes. I love my plastic lids, and as long as you buy quality ones, it will take a long ass time for them to warp.
What brand do u recommend ? Iβm using maystays brand from Walmart because thatβs all they had...
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Those are the ones to stay away from. They may last you a couple runs, but I have like 40 brand new ones just sitting on my shelf because they didnβt hold up. The Ball lids are great, and Iβve heard good things about the ones sold through a mush supply site. Canβt think of which one off the top of my head.
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oops, my mistake
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Re: A question about canning jars [Re: PopaCap]
#26386552 - 12/17/19 07:16 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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PopaCap said: Those are the ones to stay away from. They may last you a couple runs, but I have like 40 brand new ones just sitting on my shelf because they didnβt hold up. The Ball lids are great, and Iβve heard good things about the ones sold through a mush supply site. Canβt think of which one off the top of my head.
Aww shit I just cant win lol.
Ok well u think they'll hold up for atleast one PC cycle?
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Oh yeah, you may get lucky and theyβll last you a dozen. Another bit of advise is to not crank them down, especially when they are still hot after the PC cycle. Just past snug before they go in is perfect. If you pull them out before they are completely cooled, they will feel loose. DO NOT TIGHTEN!! They will shrink back to original tightness.
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Re: A question about canning jars [Re: PopaCap]
#26386615 - 12/17/19 08:05 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's good advice thanks for that!
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JohnRainy said: I gave up on plastic lids awhile ago. Sure they make it easier when you're in the sab, but I started to get contamination problems and decided that they are not secure enough. They worked for awhile but at some point, I think they started to warp slightly I guess from the repeated PCing, and maybe having jars on top of jars in the PC contributed to that, with the weight of the top jars pushing down on the plastic lids below while they are soft from the heat.
I've never heard that before...pasty uses them and even unscrew them slightly for gas exchange with no issues. It would take a lot of mobility for a contaminant to work it's way up around the threads and into the jar...
I'm not worried about it. I would have to guess it wasn't because of the lids...
I Dunno tho.
Smdh, Blind leading the blind here..
Unmodded Plastic lids are fine if you have low contam rates but even with modded lids screwed all the way down Iβve had microscopic mites crawl up the threads and fuck me harder than any thai hooker.
They only warp if you try to tighten them while hot or over tighten before the PC cycle. Unless theyre shitty quality lids then you get what you pay for..
Just because it works for some people sometimes doesn't mean it works for everyone all the time. Verum wraps his plastic lids and I use silicone seals in mine now. Hell even Pasty (in thats thread you are referencing) says unmodded lids are more of a stop gap solution and should be modded when you have the time.
Also @spunky, dog you really need to learn how to use the search engine, you make like 3 threads a day with questions that have been answered 1000βs of times(like this one). Its either that or doom and gloom BS. Chill out and do some more reading.
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Re: A question about canning jars [Re: JohnRainy]
#26396756 - 12/23/19 04:12 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok thanks guys i was asking because i had lids for the regular mouth jars and only a few wide mouth jar lids and a ton of widemouth jars... but I found some plastic lids for the wide mouth jars and they actually worked fucking nice for making my lids with a SFD and injection port... check it out:
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I've used the mainstays, ball, and ball leak proof without any problems (yet). I tighten when cold and mark the lid and jar with a line, loosen a bit before PC'ing, and then realign the lines so that when they cool it won't be over tightened and warped.
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