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Gypsy Boy
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Re: Killing animals is wrong. [Re: Gypsy Boy]
#26388096 - 12/18/19 04:28 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Trust me I know God, I know the guy pretty well, and if u were to go in to the woods with your son for a whole day with a hunting rifle, find a deer and take it down, then bring the meat home and eat with your whole family, God is totally ok with that
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Re: Killing animals is wrong. [Re: Gypsy Boy]
#26388124 - 12/18/19 05:14 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Haem This is a red pigment that is naturally found in red meat. It can damage cells, and cause bacteria in the body to produce harmful chemicals. This can increase the risk of cancer.
It’s spelled heme and it’s not a red pigment, it’s the oxygen carrying molecule of the red blood celll.
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Re: Killing animals is wrong. [Re: ft116] 1
#26388401 - 12/18/19 09:33 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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killing animals in excess is wrong and nowadays everything is in excess so i guess what we're doing is wrong.
But say for instance we went back to te days when there were not many of us, go kill an animal but only in necessity with your own hands and eat every single part of it ensuring none of it goes to waste from the pelts to the liver to the teeth.
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Re: Killing animals is wrong. [Re: kitten6]
#26388456 - 12/18/19 10:16 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Eating meat is being an accomplice in murder, theres no way around that, even if you only knew the animal as pre packaged cuts in the supermarket.
I disagree my hands did not deliver the killing blow. I did not help the corporate machine slaughter all the cows and chickens I eat. They were already killed. All I am doing is making sure their life at least meant something.
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Kmacmo
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Re: Killing animals is wrong. [Re: Gypsy Boy]
#26388477 - 12/18/19 10:27 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Gypsy Boy said: Maybe, but it's a natural way. Animals hunt and eat other animals all the time, and if it's ok with them it's ok with me
True, we are probably the only living thing on the planet that have morals. Crazy, I don't think a lion would feel bad for feeding his pride.
I believe slavery is worse than murder, yet we have more slaves alive today than ever.
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Re: Killing animals is wrong. [Re: ft116]
#26388495 - 12/18/19 10:38 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Meat Is Murder The Smiths Heifer whines could be human cries Closer comes the screaming knife This beautiful creature must die This beautiful creature must die A death for no reason And death for no reason is murder And the flesh you so fancifully fry Is not succulent, tasty or kind It's death for no reason And death for no reason is murder And the calf that you carve with a smile Is murder And the turkey you festively slice Is murder Do you know how animals die? Kitchen aromas aren't very homely It's not "comforting", cheery or kind It's sizzling blood and the unholy stench Of murder It's not "natural", "normal" or kind The flesh you so fancifully fry The meat in your mouth As you savor the flavor Of murder No, no, no, it's murder No, no, no, it's murder Oh...and who hears when animals cry?
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spirit_shadow
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To add to my point to asante, murder is also all about INTENT. I have no intentions of snuffing out any life(though I have many times in my mind) so that should also count for something.
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Re: Killing animals is wrong. [Re: Kmacmo]
#26388520 - 12/18/19 10:53 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kmacmo said:
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Gypsy Boy said: Maybe, but it's a natural way. Animals hunt and eat other animals all the time, and if it's ok with them it's ok with me
True, we are probably the only living thing on the planet that have morals. Crazy, I don't think a lion would feel bad for feeding his pride.
I believe slavery is worse than murder, yet we have more slaves alive today than ever.
Plenty of animals have a sense of morality and behave with a sense of right and wrong.
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Re: Killing animals is wrong. [Re: koods]
#26388524 - 12/18/19 10:55 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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^ I was going to use the wolf analogy. And state that even though they have emotions it still does not feel bad for eating the deer.
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Kmacmo
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Re: Killing animals is wrong. [Re: koods]
#26388651 - 12/18/19 12:23 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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koods said: Plenty of animals have a sense of morality and behave with a sense of right and wrong.
Ofcourse they have their own 'right' and 'wrong'... Raise the cubs well, don't eat em Fight intruders off their territory(for safety of offspring) Kill anything that's weak and can be eaten
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Re: Killing animals is wrong. [Re: Kmacmo]
#26388696 - 12/18/19 01:01 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Diets that are among those that live long lifes, have little meat. We evolved our social and intelligence life more than physically evolved.
Humans aren't meant to eat meat daily. We are not even meant to eat every day. Then pile on every damn twisted "study" into a new health trend.
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Re: Killing animals is wrong. [Re: Asante]
#26388716 - 12/18/19 01:11 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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You and your beans Asante!
Not only did you murder a rooster, but you then proceeded to crap all over its legacy by serving beans.
You probably let the whole mess congeal before you ate it too

Beans
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tyrannicalrex said: Meat Is Murder The Smiths Heifer whines could be human cries Closer comes the screaming knife This beautiful creature must die This beautiful creature must die A death for no reason And death for no reason is murder And the flesh you so fancifully fry Is not succulent, tasty or kind It's death for no reason And death for no reason is murder And the calf that you carve with a smile Is murder And the turkey you festively slice Is murder Do you know how animals die? Kitchen aromas aren't very homely It's not "comforting", cheery or kind It's sizzling blood and the unholy stench Of murder It's not "natural", "normal" or kind The flesh you so fancifully fry The meat in your mouth As you savor the flavor Of murder No, no, no, it's murder No, no, no, it's murder Oh...and who hears when animals cry?

this was a huge help to me for matters completely unrelated to the thread topic so thank you dearly
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Re: Killing animals is wrong. [Re: Kmacmo]
#26389854 - 12/19/19 12:09 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kmacmo said:
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koods said: Plenty of animals have a sense of morality and behave with a sense of right and wrong.
Of course they have their own 'right' and 'wrong'... Raise the cubs well, don't eat em Fight intruders off their territory(for safety of offspring) Kill anything that's weak and can be eaten
Some animals occasionally kill and eat their young - including chimps, sharks, hamsters, bears and lions.
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tyrannicalrex
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Re: Killing animals is wrong. [Re: Tantrika]
#26390216 - 12/19/19 07:25 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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You're welcome! Early smiths and morrisy are pretty damn good. He freaked out recently though. Maybe he just showed his true colors.
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Asante
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Re: Killing animals is wrong. [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26390273 - 12/19/19 08:36 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tripsurfer said: You and your beans Asante!
Not only did you murder a rooster, but you then proceeded to crap all over its legacy by serving beans.
You probably let the whole mess congeal before you ate it too

Beans
No that was a Hannibal Lector reference actually
We made a delicious soup out of him as an entree to christmas dinner.
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Re: Killing animals is wrong. [Re: Morel Guy] 1
#26390822 - 12/19/19 02:38 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Morel Guy said: Diets that are among those that live long lifes, have little meat. We evolved our social and intelligence life more than physically evolved.
Humans aren't meant to eat meat daily. We are not even meant to eat every day. Then pile on every damn twisted "study" into a new health trend.
Not true. My great grandmother died at home at 98, almost 99. She ate meat every single day, every meal. She fried eggs in bacon fat every morning. When asked about her longevity she'd say, ''I never smoked, rarely drank and worked hard every day of my life'' which she did. You can't just make shit up to fit your narrative.
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tyrannicalrex
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Duhrwood Stevens said:
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Morel Guy said: Diets that are among those that live long lifes, have little meat. We evolved our social and intelligence life more than physically evolved.
Humans aren't meant to eat meat daily. We are not even meant to eat every day. Then pile on every damn twisted "study" into a new health trend.
Not true. My great grandmother died at home at 98, almost 99. She ate meat every single day, every meal. She fried eggs in bacon fat every morning. When asked about her longevity she'd say, ''I never smoked, rarely drank and worked hard every day of my life'' which she did. You can't just make shit up to fit your narrative.
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Re: Killing animals is wrong. [Re: Asante] 2
#26391240 - 12/19/19 06:21 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Asante said: Eating meat is being an accomplice in murder, theres no way around that, even if you only knew the animal as pre packaged cuts in the supermarket.
Then I guess I'm a murderer.
Look, I have a deep respect for animals. I consider myself an animal lover. When I eat meat, even a chicken nugget or a hamburger at a backyard bbq, I realize that an animal had to die for me to eat that. I don't take that for granted. I put a heavy premium on not wasting meat. I don't throw anything away. If I buy a chicken from the supermarket, I'm eating the whole thing. If I buy a steak at a steakhouse, I'm eating it all. Not an ounce of meat that I purchase will ever get wasted.
I feel like if an animal had to die for me to eat it, the least I could do is not let it go in vain by letting any go to waste.
But yes, I enjoy eating meat when I do, and if that makes me animal murderer then I guess I am.
But hey the food chain is the food chain. Every single carnivorous predator on this earth would gladly feed off you if given the opportunity.
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Re: Killing animals is wrong. [Re: ft116] 1
#26391274 - 12/19/19 06:33 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah sure, killing animals is wrong, but I like meat a lot and probably couldn't live without it. One day, humanity should give up the killing and eating of animals, but we're still really primitive and I think that's a lot way off. I admire anyone who can give up meat. I think that's a very moral and admirable thing to do, but I never could. And let me just say that as much as I love deer, venison is just about the most delicious thing I have ever tasted.
We should as a species give it up one day though, but we need to have a replacement that is identical to the real thing while costing around the same price. That's the one way I can realistically conceive of it happening.
If it was just me, and I had to kill a deer or a cow or a chicken myself in order to eat it, I wouldn't be able to do it. I'd have to survive off of grains and berries and mushrooms and shit.
But since we've got this wonderful manufacturing and distribution system where beautiful meat just shows up in meat form in the supermarket...
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