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InvisibleKingOftheThing
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my anti bush rants
    #2638443 - 05/04/04 09:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

these were from an otd thread :smile:

luvdemshrooms said:

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You're right. Gore would have been far worse.


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if you think that, you seriously have mental problems... anyone would be better than our current war-mongering, religous zealot president, who has the lowest iq of any president....who has lost this country more jobs than any other president... whose attorney general paid $3000 to cover up the boob of a satue cuz he is such a religous crazy, and he busted tommy chong....lets see, he outlawed funding for stem cell reasearch, which could save many lives and possibly your own one day...y would he say no to stem cell?? oh thats because jesus told him to!! thats right, our president talks to his imaginary fried jesus about things... hmmm he also said that god wanted him to be president... the guy is fucking insane, and so is anyone who supports him 

also his retarded FCC is trying to take away our speech. his coporate buddies are censoring people or things they deem anti-bush. he WILL appoint a supreme court justice when sandra day leaves to get rid of abortion. oh and he will start more wars, probably in the name of jesus. i fucking hate republicans...i mean shit, this is one of our worst presidents EVER, cant they just admit they were wrong and get him out of there?? fucking conservative dirt bags...bible belt living, nascaar watching, religuos conservatives AHHHHHHHH i wish we could just divide the country in 2 and let the christian taliban turn the south into a police state.


if you think that, you seriously have mental problems...


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Thanks. The opinion of someone stupid enough to be taken in by a hoax counts for a lot.


wow maybe so, but how the fuck can you enjoy drugs and be a republican? nixon made LSD illegal, Reagan started the DEA and look what bush/ ashcorft are doing with pipe dreams. open you eyes!! and what about gay marriage , are u some intolerant hick? do u really want a constitutional amendment telling 2 people they can't marrY? also its funny u didnt refut any of my points, lol. republicans make me fucking sick, u all should goto iraq and fight in this war u believe was needed...would do the rest of us sane people a big favor. al franken was right, republicans really do love their party like they love their mommies. mommy can do no wrong, even when she is taking away freedoms and sending people to die for oil. but maybe you are a millionaire and actually benefiet from bush's tax cut for his wealthy buddies. i really hope all republicans get cancer, are paralyzed or maybe even get parkinsons. then when we dont have a cure, because president bush thinks jesus told him not to allow stem cell research, they'll die or live in misery.


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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2638515 - 05/04/04 09:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I've lost hope with the Republicans. Your post will go right over their heads. I don't really let them piss me off anymore. If they haven't figured out that Bush is evil and corrupt by now, then they never will.


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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: ]
    #2638525 - 05/04/04 09:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

good point  :sad:its really sad how jaded they are...


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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2638596 - 05/04/04 10:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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KingOftheThing said:
if you think that, you seriously have mental problems... anyone would be better than our current war-mongering, religous zealot president, who has the lowest iq of any president....




And with that you lose all credibility i have ever given you......


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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2638601 - 05/04/04 10:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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if you think that, you seriously have mental problems 



Watch that.
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who has the lowest iq of any president 



Prove it.  The IQ bullshit that's circulated on the internet has been throughly refuted.
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who has lost this country more jobs than any other president 



This is barely worth asking seeying as you're not even capable of starting your sentances with a capital letter, but can you explain to me in a didactic manner, how a President is completely or even mostly responsible for a countries employment figures.  Working with your nonsense assumption, can you honestly say more jobs were lost during Bush's reign then were during, oh I don't know...Herbert Hoovers run?
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  his coporate buddies are censoring people or things they deem anti-bush.



Their perogative as heads of privately owned companies.
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  he WILL appoint a supreme court justice when sandra day leaves to get rid of abortion.



A president filling in a vacant supreme court justice slot...what a rabid disregard for the constitution!  :confused:
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i fucking hate republicans...i mean shit, this is one of our worst presidents EVER, cant they just admit they were wrong and get him out of there?? fucking conservative dirt bags...bible belt living, nascaar watching, religuos conservatives AHHHHHHHH i wish we could just divide the country in 2 and let the christian taliban turn the south into a police state.
 



What a convincing argument.
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wow maybe so, but how the fuck can you enjoy drugs and be a republican? 



Why assume he's a republican?
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  but how the fuck can you enjoy drugs and be a republican? nixon made LSD illegal, Reagan started the DEA and look what bush/ ashcorft are doing with pipe dreams. open you eyes!! and what about gay marriage , are u some intolerant hick? do u really want a constitutional amendment telling 2 people they can't marrY?



Right on dude, if we could have just had Clinton another four years he would have ended the war on drugs for sure!  Stop generalising, you don't even know he's a republican, you certainly don't know his view on every single political position.
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i really hope all republicans get cancer, are paralyzed or maybe even get parkinsons. then when we dont have a cure, because president bush thinks jesus told him not to allow stem cell research, they'll die or live in misery. 



I really hope you can elevate your level of debate to at least around half-retarded.  Right now you're at best making yourself look no better than those you're bashing and at worst completely destroying your credibility.

And just so you know, I don't support Bush.


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Re: my anti bush rants [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2638697 - 05/04/04 10:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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KingOftheThing said:
also his retarded FCC is trying to take away our speech. his coporate buddies are censoring people or things they deem anti-bush.




Their are so many incongruties and falsehoods in here that I'd spend hours debunking them, and that would take away the pleasure that others will have with them. So I'll just work on a few of them. The FCC had NOTHING to do with the Sinclair issue. I'm sure that you won't understand this since you'd rather see it as an issue to hate Bush for rather than looking for thet ruth and reality, but thats the way it is kiddo.
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he WILL appoint a supreme court justice when sandra day leaves to get rid of abortion. oh and he will start more wars, probably in the name of jesus.




An elected president doing what he said he'd do on the campaign trail ? I'm outraged! OUTRAGED! How many wars has he started in the name of jesus .
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i fucking hate republicans...i mean shit, this is one of our worst presidents EVER, cant they just admit they were wrong and get him out of there??




Who is "they", the fucking republicans that you hate? How about you demonstraet your literacy towards them and write a well thoughtout letter like this to "Da fuckin reepubliknna in warshintun DEECEE" and see if they come around.
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fucking conservative dirt bags...bible belt living, nascaar watching, religuos conservatives AHHHHHHHH i wish we could just divide the country in 2 and let the christian taliban turn the south into a police state.




So anyone who disagrees with you is a Christian? Interesting. Your logical leaps astound me.
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Thanks. The opinion of someone stupid enough to be taken in by a hoax counts for a lot.




I'm not sure if this is a quote from LDS or if it's from you. IT seems to be using punctuation, grammar and a lack of profanity, so I"m not thinking it's you. If it is, what 'hoax' are you referring to? Those planes crashing into buildings on 9/11?
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wow maybe so, but how the fuck can you enjoy drugs and be a republican? nixon made LSD illegal, Reagan started the DEA and look what bush/ ashcorft are doing with pipe dreams. open you eyes!! and what about gay marriage , are u some intolerant hick?




maybe you could start a museum of tolerance for all that you agree with, and a museum of non-tolerance for the "fucking republicans". That'd be great. For future reference, using the word "intolerant" before using a categorical pejortaive might be a tactic you might want to avoid. Didn't a Democrat get us into Vietnam? I notice how you aren't alluding to that at all yet.
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do u really want a constitutional amendment telling 2 people they
can't marrY? also its funny u didnt refut any of my points, lol.




LDS had better start refut-ing this guys posts soon, else he'll be a "fucking republican"
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republicans make me fucking sick, u all should goto iraq and fight in this war u believe was needed...would do the rest of us sane people a big favor. al franken was right, republicans really do love their party like they love their mommies. mommy can do no wrong, even when she is taking away freedoms and sending people to die for oil. but maybe you are a millionaire and actually benefiet from bush's tax cut for his wealthy buddies.




This seems like a 2nd grader with downs syndrom just read all of Alex's posts and summed them all up.
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i really hope all republicans get cancer, are paralyzed or maybe even get parkinsons. then when we dont have a cure, because president bush thinks jesus told him not to allow stem cell research, they'll die or live in misery.



Beautiful sentiments. Please list your name and address that I can recommedn you for a pulitzer.


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Re: my anti bush rants [Re: germin8tionn8ion]
    #2638763 - 05/04/04 10:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

haha, well seems i have stirred up a hornets nest of conservatives :P my rants werent meant to be eloquesnt or weel thought out, just angry rants :smile: u guys have a good time tearing apart like 2 of my points... i want u guys (neocon loonies) to answer the following:

1) Why are there are riders on the broadcast indecency bill allowing clear chanel (i cant evevn list all the ways they are tied to bush) to buy more stations, even though they may be violating antitrust laws.

2) Why should we have a constitutional amendment banning marriage between to consenting adults? If you really hate the idea of 2 gay people getting married.. Why is Bush also against civil unions?

3) Why shouldn't the government put money into stem cell research? Why, when saked about his decision on stem cell did bush say he consulted with a higher power?

4) Why did Bush say our troops were doing god's work? last time i checked we didn't all belive in god in the USA. Also, i thought we were looking for not WMDs, not doing God's Work. :lol:

5) Why did bush think it was funny to pretend to look for WMDs in his office, as part of some skit? aren't people dying in iraq? not funny.

6) Why shouldn't abortion be legal? Bush doesnt think it should be.

7) Why was Operation Pipe Dreams a good idea?

8) Why did our attorney general waste $3000 covering up the breast on a statue that 15 prior attorney generals have stood in front of?

9) Why can't you just admit Bush is an evil fuckwit?  :devil:


ps: the line about a hoax in my first post is something luvdemshrooms said, it came over when i copied all that shit, whoops....:lol:


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Re: my anti bush rants [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2638798 - 05/04/04 11:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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2) Why should we have a constitutional amendment banning marriage between to consenting adults? If you really hate the idea of 2 gay people getting married.. Why is Bush also against civil unions?




We absolutely shouldn't.

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3) Why shouldn't the government put money into stem cell research? Why, when saked about his decision on stem cell did bush say he consulted with a higher power?




The government shouldn't put money into stem cell research because doing so is not a legitimate function of the federal government.
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4) Why did Bush say our troops were doing god's work? last time i checked we didn't all belive in god in the USA. Also, i thought we were looking for not WMDs, not doing God's Work.



I am Agnostic, but a majority of Americans are theists. Chance he believed they are doing god's work...it's a morale boost for citizens who believe either way. Why is "God's Work" and looking for WMDs mutually exclusive?
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5) Why did bush think it was funny to pretend to look for WMDs in his office, as part of some skit? aren't people dying in iraq? not funny.




While it wasn't funny, I don't think he was being insensitive.
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6) Why shouldn't abortion be legal? Bush doesnt think it should be.



Abortion(up to a point) should be legal. Bush doesn't HAVE to think it should be.
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8) Why did our attorney general waste $3000 covering up the breast on a statue that 15 prior attorney generals have stood in front of?



Because he's an idiot.
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9) Why can't you just admit Bush is an evil fuckwit?



Why can't you stop using moronic adjectives like Evil to describe someone whose opinions you disagree with, however vehemently that may be.

Straight from the mouth of a Neocon Libertarian.


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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: Ancalagon]
    #2638801 - 05/04/04 11:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Prove it.  The IQ bullshit that's circulated on the internet has been throughly refuted.




Proof is something that neocon fucking republicans need. Conjecture and guesses are all that this brand of liberal needs.
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This is barely worth asking seeying as you're not even capable of starting your sentances with a capital letter, but can you explain to me in a didactic manner, how a President is completely or even mostly responsible for a countries employment figures.  Working with your nonsense assumption, can you honestly say more jobs were lost during Bush's reign then were during, oh I don't know...Herbert Hoovers run?




You neocon fucking republicans and your stupid "facts" and "Figures" and "logic".  Didn't you read? republicans are fucking stupid, geez. why question logic like that!
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A president filling in a vacant supreme court justice slot...what a rabid disregard for the constitution!  :confused:




Tell me about it. Viva le revolution!
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Why assume he's a republican?




You are asking this Einstein why he assumes things? hah, because, in lieu of proof, facts, and figures, profanty and assumptiosn rule the day.
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Right on dude, if we could have just had Clinton another four years he would have ended the war on drugs for sure!




Exactly! Clinton would free every coke smuggling dirtbag that had the money and the connections to pay for a pardon. THATS how we win the drug war!
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Stop generalising, you don't even know he's a republican, you certainly don't know his view on every single political position.




While you are at it King, stop using conjecture, guesswork, blind faith and profanity too.
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I really hope you can elevate your level of debate to at least around half-retarded.  Right now you're at best making yourself look no better than those you're bashing and at worst completely destroying your credibility.




Exactly. Lets hope hes drunk or something.
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And just so you know, I don't support Bush.



Who you support is entirely up to King to decide.  If you agree with his logical trips, then you are on his side, the objective correct side. If you don't, you obviously support bush. don't try to lie to us your dirty "fucking republican" neocon! (thats a joke, not a flame :wink: )


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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: germin8tionn8ion]
    #2638820 - 05/04/04 11:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

answer my questions please :smile:


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Re: my anti bush rants [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2638855 - 05/04/04 11:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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KingOftheThing said:
haha, well seems i have stirred up a hornets nest of conservatives :P my rants werent meant to be eloquesnt or weel thought out, just angry rants :smile: u guys have a good time tearing apart like 2 of my points... i want u guys (neocon loonies) to answer the following:




Second flame in as many hours, I'd watch that.
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1) Why are there are riders on the broadcast indecency bill allowing clear chanel (i cant evevn list all the ways they are tied to bush) to buy more stations, even though they may be violating antitrust laws.




Try using a "?" instead of a "." with phrases that begin with a "why". "!" are also acceptable if it's an exclamation. I don't even know what the hell this bit of illiteracy means, but if you can rewrite it in post-elementary school english, I'll be happy to answer it.
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2) Why should we have a constitutional amendment banning marriage between to consenting adults? If you really hate the idea of 2 gay people getting married.. Why is Bush also against civil unions?




Because his religious beliefs, and those of the majority of America, don't want this to happen. Civil Unions? I can't answer why Bush is against them. I'm not, personally, tho I realize that in your black and white world, you can't have grey areas, so I'm probably still a neocon fucking republican for poking holes in your ignorance.
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3) Why shouldn't the government put money into stem cell research? Why, when saked about his decision on stem cell did bush say he consulted with a higher power?




Thats wrong in my opinion. Again tho, in your black and white world, if you support someone over another, you must vehemently and totally support that person totally and in entirety. Must be nice to live in such a simple world
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4) Why did Bush say our troops were doing god's work? last time i checked we didn't all belive in god in the USA. Also, i thought we were looking for not WMDs, not doing God's Work. :lol:




could you post a link here? Do you think that liberating people and ending torture is "gods" work?
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5) Why did bush think it was funny to pretend to look for WMDs in his office, as part of some skit? aren't people dying in iraq? not funny.




Are you sure you weren't drunk and watching SNL? Or are you talking about the White House Press Dinner held yearly, that wasn't in his office by the way, where presidents typically parody and lampoon themselves? Do you think that the cartoonists making images with humourous elements about the Iraq war are also "fucking republicans"?
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6) Why shouldn't abortion be legal? Bush doesnt think it should be.




Abortion is legal because the Supreme Court decided so. If he replaces someone, abortion won't be legal, because the Supreme Court decided so. Thats the way it works son, majority rules, and they make the laws.
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7) Why was Operation Pipe Dreams a good idea?




It wasn't. Again, this isn't your littel black and white world where people that disagree with your logical inconsistencies and juvenile, unsophisticated thought processes automatically is supporting every thing that the target of your boobery does.
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8) Why did our attorney general waste $3000 covering up the breast on a statue that 15 prior attorney generals have stood in front of?




Because hes a moron.
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9) Why can't you just admit Bush is an evil fuckwit?  :devil:




Because you are a moron.
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ps: the line about a hoax in my first post is something luvdemshrooms said, it came over when i copied all that shit, whoops....:lol:



Excellent post. You'll get that Pulizter yet.  Maybe you'll want to consider that, just because people poke holes and display your ignorance, doesn't mean that htey support the person that you are attacking. IF you said, for example, that Hitler was known to eat human brains and skull fuck dead jews, I'd say that was wrong, but I'm certainly not a Hitler supporter. When you blindly attack someone with little or no thought behind it, don't expect unconditional support.


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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2638856 - 05/04/04 11:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

My response to your initial post covered almost all bases...How about you respond to me now. This is, believe it or not, how dialogue works.


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Re: my anti bush rants [Re: Ancalagon]
    #2638905 - 05/04/04 11:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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2) Why should we have a constitutional amendment banning marriage between to consenting adults? If you really hate the idea of 2 gay people getting married.. Why is Bush also against civil unions?




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We absolutely shouldn't.



1 point for kerry

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3) Why shouldn't the government put money into stem cell research? Why, when saked about his decision on stem cell did bush say he consulted with a higher power?
 



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The government shouldn't put money into stem cell research because doing so is not a legitimate function of the federal government.



The federal gov't puts TONS of money into medical research. Bush not supporting stem cell, is because the religous right is against it, he said a higher power told him it is wrong!!! Please lets keep religous beliefs out of gov't, kthx.
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4) Why did Bush say our troops were doing god's work? last time i checked we didn't all belive in god in the USA. Also, i thought we were looking for not WMDs, not doing God's Work. 



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I am Agnostic, but a majority of Americans are theists.  Chance he believed they are doing god's work...it's a morale boost for citizens who believe either way.  Why is "God's Work" and looking for WMDs mutually exclusive?



i also am agnostic, but this quote makes it seem like we are on a religuos crusade. which, in iraq, we are :smile:
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5) Why did bush think it was funny to pretend to look for WMDs in his office, as part of some skit? aren't people dying in iraq? not funny.




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While it wasn't funny, I don't think he was being insensitive.



lol, of course it was inesensitve. when you lead a country to war under flase pretenses, and kids our dying, then you joke about its wrong. i wonder how u would feel if a family member died in iraq
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6) Why shouldn't abortion be legal? Bush doesnt think it should be.



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Abortion(up to a point) should be legal.  Bush doesn't HAVE to think it should be.



Well Bush is planning to find a supreme court justice who is anti-abortion and they WILL overturn rowe v wade. this is something that is going to happen if bush stays in office. 2 points for kerry
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8) Why did our attorney general waste $3000 covering up the breast on a statue that 15 prior attorney generals have stood in front of?



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Because he's an idiot.



well you agree :smile: lets get a new administration and a new smarter attorney general
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9) Why can't you just admit Bush is an evil fuckwit? 



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Why can't you stop using moronic adjectives like Evil to describe someone whose opinions you disagree with, however vehemently that may be.



because i honestly believe that bush is evil.sending our boys to die for oil = evil in my book

Straight from the mouth of a Neocon Libertarian.




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Re: my anti bush rants [Re: germin8tionn8ion]
    #2638949 - 05/04/04 11:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Try using a "?" instead of a "." with phrases that begin with a "why". "!" are also acceptable if it's an exclamation. I don't even know what the hell this bit of illiteracy means, but if you can rewrite it in post-elementary school english, I'll be happy to answer it.
 




obviously, you can't answer my question because im right :smile: typical neocn
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Because his religious beliefs, and those of the majority of America, don't want this to happen. Civil Unions? I can't answer why Bush is against them. I'm not, personally, tho I realize that in your black and white world, you can't have grey areas, so I'm probably still a neocon fucking republican for poking holes in your ignorance.




gee, religous beliefs...arent we supposed to keep those out of our policy making? isnt there something in the constitution about that? at once time most people thought blacks marrying white should be illegal, doesnt make it right.
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Thats wrong in my opinion. Again tho, in your black and white world, if you support someone over another, you must vehemently and totally support that person totally and in entirety. Must be nice to live in such a simple world




nice you agree, again. him maybe you arent a necon :lol:
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could you post a link here? Do you think that liberating people and ending torture is "gods" work?




well i dont have a link, but it was all over the news after his live press conference last month. im sure a quick google search could produce a transcript. once u read it and see i'm right, does that mean u agree again? :lol:
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Are you sure you weren't drunk and watching SNL? Or are you talking about the White House Press Dinner held yearly, that wasn't in his office by the way, where presidents typically parody and lampoon themselves? Do you think that the cartoonists making images with humourous elements about the Iraq war are also "fucking republicans"?




cartoonists arent the president. lampooning yourself about something you lied to the american public about is in good taste?
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Abortion is legal because the Supreme Court decided so. If he replaces someone, abortion won't be legal, because the Supreme Court decided so. Thats the way it works son, majority rules, and they make the laws.




so what do you believe? also in polls, the majority of this country supports abortion. so lets vote out bush. mmmmm K ?
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It wasn't. Again, this isn't your littel black and white world where people that disagree with your logical inconsistencies and juvenile, unsophisticated thought processes automatically is supporting every thing that the target of your boobery does.




you seem to disagree with a lot of what bush does. on a lot of issues. what do u like that bush does?

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Because hes a moron.
 



so lets vote out this moron and the president that appointed him! you are with me?? seems like it!!


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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: Ancalagon]
    #2638980 - 05/04/04 11:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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but can you explain to me in a didactic manner, how a President is completely or even mostly responsible for a countries employment figures.




Perhaps my thinking is wrong but didnt you elect (or in this case not elect) your president to run the country? Isnt your president as whole, responsible for your country and its actions? Therefor, how can he NOT be responsible for lack of employment?


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Re: my anti bush rants [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2638993 - 05/04/04 11:44 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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1 point for kerry




Why Kerry? He is not the only candidate in the race and is certainly not the first to have this position.

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The federal gov't puts TONS of money into medical research.




That's a shame.
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Bush not supporting stem cell, is because the religous right is against it, he said a higher power told him it is wrong!!! Please lets keep religous beliefs out of gov't, kthx.

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While that's true, government should not be funding ANY medical research with taxpayer money.

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but this quote makes it seem like we are on a religuos crusade. which, in iraq, we are



I would not use the term 'religious crusade' so lightly. I disagree with our decision to deal with Iraq at that particular time. I do, however, believe that the war is defensible from a logical standpoint.
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lol, of course it was inesensitve. when you lead a country to war under flase pretenses, and kids our dying, then you joke about its wrong. i wonder how u would feel if a family member died in iraq




He did not imitate an American soldier getting blown up by a mortar...he made light of the failure that occurred in the worldwide intelligence community.

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Well Bush is planning to find a supreme court justice who is anti-abortion and they WILL overturn rowe v wade. this is something that is going to happen if bush stays in office. 2 points for kerry




Maybe we can get him to pick at random. Hell, you got a 1/275million shot at the court then! With you in the court we can set this country on the right track, outlaw Christians, Republicans, and just about anyone who disagrees with King.

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well you agree lets get a new administration and a new smarter attorney general



I have full confidence the Kerry administration will keep this country on the wrong track.

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because i honestly believe that bush is evil.sending our boys to die for oil = evil in my book




We're going to have to seize a ridiculous amount of Iraqi oil profit for a ridiculous amount of years to break even with the money we're spending attempting to rebuild Iraq. Not even worth asking you to prove oil was the direct cause.


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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: Grizz]
    #2639007 - 05/04/04 11:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Ancalagon said:
but can you explain to me in a didactic manner, how a President is completely or even mostly responsible for a countries employment figures.




Perhaps my thinking is wrong but didnt you elect (or in this case not elect) your president to run the country? Isnt your president as whole, responsible for your country and its actions? Therefor, how can he NOT be responsible for lack of employment?



There are many factors at work in our countries economy besides the policies initiated by the leader of our executive branch. Unemployment is MUCH more a result of our monetary policy over the last 80 years or so than the policies of a president who has been in office three years.


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Re: my anti bush rants [Re: Ancalagon]
    #2639050 - 05/04/04 11:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

im not huge on kerry, but he is better than bush and its our only chance to get bush out of office.

why shouldnt the gov't support medical research that would improve our quality of life? defend the war in iraq from a logical standpoint. in fact tell me why we should have gone to iraq and please include an explanation of why we didnt goto n. korea instead.

hmm, i seem to remember hanz blix and our weapons inspectors telling us sadam had no weapons right b4 we went to war. so it wasnt an intelligence failure, it was a flat out lie.

i wouldnt outlaw anybody, id like to make sure religous beliefs stay the fuck out of politcal decisions. its what our founding fathers would have wanted.

kerry would at least ease some tensions bush has created with our allies, ensure abortion rights. you should see kerry's voting record on drug bills!! its awesome, he would be good for us shroom/pot users...better than ashcroft(hitler)

even bob woodward, who certainly isnt a democrat said bush was set to goto war with iraq no matter what. he wanted that war from the minute he stepped into office.


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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: Ancalagon]
    #2639091 - 05/05/04 12:06 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

USA unemployment is at its worst slump in almost 20 years.

Your president is responsible for your country.

If he put as much time and money into unemployment as he does into a war about oil, then perhaps unemplyment wouldnt be such a problem.


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Re: my anti bush rants [Re: Ancalagon]
    #2639105 - 05/05/04 12:10 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"government should not be funding ANY medical research with taxpayer money."

Yeah, it'd be a shame to better the world and help our own kind.


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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: Grizz]
    #2639170 - 05/05/04 12:29 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

grizz writes:

USA unemployment is at its worst slump in almost 20 years.

Bzzzzt! Wrong! US unemployment is 5.7 %. Exactly the same as it was in Clinton's third year of his second term. This, by the way, is easily verifiable. It's just that the Libbies don't bother to actually check things. Too much effort. If a Bush hater says it is so, it must be so, because Bush is an evil stupid genius.

I laugh myself to sleep at least one night out of every seven thinking of the absolute crap I see posted here in this forum. What makes me laugh? The fact that this easily refuted crap is posted by those who proclaim themselves to be immune to "neocon" "brainwashing". There is a difference between being open minded and being so "open minded" that facts and logic pour out of the hole in one's cranium if one tilts one's head too far to one side or the other (the left side).

Your president is responsible for your country.

In a Socialist country, perhaps this is true. In a country with still some modicum of freedom left, this is untrue. In the US, people are still to a large extent responsible for themselves. In the US, there is (unfortunately) a safety net. There is not as yet (unlike Canada, England, and Oz), a safety hammock.

If he put as much time and money into unemployment as he does into a war about oil....

I realize these are difficult concepts for those born and raised in a Socialist country to grasp, but here's how it works in the US (and no, I am not a US citizen -- I was born in Canada and spent the first three and a half decades of my life there before moving to my beautiful banana Republic third world paradise) --

1) the US president doesn't create jobs. US private industry does.
2) the US has never -- repeat never -- seized oil from anyone. The US buys oil from whoever chooses to sell it, at the price set by the seller.

Maybe things are run differently in Oz. But we're not talking about Oz in this thread, are we?

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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: Phred]
    #2639208 - 05/05/04 12:37 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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pinksharkmark said:
If a Bush hater says it is so, it must be so, because Bush is an evil stupid genius.

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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2639356 - 05/05/04 01:11 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Ekstaza said:
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pinksharkmark said:
If a Bush hater says it is so, it must be so, because Bush is an evil stupid genius.

pinky




bush is stupid, and a puppet, the people pulling is strings are evil, duh :lol:


here let me tell you a story about G.W. :


once upon a time there was a man named George, he decided to argue with his mommy. George said that if you don't accept jesus as your savior you don't goto heaven. His mommy disagreed and said that if you live a good life, you will goto heaven no matter what. NO NO NO George screamed, I AM RIGHT WHAAAAAAAAA, I'm gonna call Billy Graham to settle this fight. So George called Billy Graham and Billy sided with George's mommy. NO NO NO Bush screamed, you must accept JESUS!!! YOU ARE WRONG BILLY!! What would Billy Graham know about christianity? :lol:

THE END (this is a 100% true story btw, i may have imbelished just a bit :smirk:)


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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2639422 - 05/05/04 01:20 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Now, I wouldn't go that far.

Are you kidding me?

This is the man who has orchestrated a world wide conspiracy, or at least been their figurehead. With the
lying, and conspiring, and war-mongoring, and polluting, and killing, and stealing, he's been able to avoid impeachment. And charges against him. And enough relavent evidence to convince those endowed with the (apparent) gift of analytical thought of his wrongdoing.
He takes the country to war, killing people, just to fatten his buddies pockets. Staging a terrorist attack on American soil, just to take away peoples freedom.

All the while convincing those who take issue with his policies, he's the most stupid president, if not person, we've ever seen?

This guy could be nothing other than a truly evil, stupid acting, genius.


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    #2639428 - 05/05/04 01:22 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Lincoln was actually very similar. He pretended to be dumb so that people would underestimate him, but was actually a clever manipulator.


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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2639609 - 05/05/04 02:13 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

this is a 100% true story btw, i may have imbelished just a bit

here for the story: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jesus/view/


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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: trendal]
    #2640254 - 05/05/04 05:24 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

EXCELLENT videos. Now I don't like him on an even more personal level.


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    #2641078 - 05/05/04 12:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I'm fairly certain you should review your skills at using the quote function.


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Re: my anti bush rants [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2641329 - 05/05/04 01:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I have to say money wise, i am republican, lots of the social issues im more libertarian.

My view is bush is probably not the best guy for the job, but kerry is much worse. Scary Kerry

I see it boiling still down to democrats losing in the last election by a small amount and being pissed about it. I mean look at all thier arguments, they are nuts.... Unemployment isnt any better/worse then with clinton. We insource WAY WAY more jobs from other countries then we outsource by a long shot.

By reading king of the things first post you can totally get the vibe.

EDit:
Get out of the phantasy land if you think gore/kerry can/would stop or lessen the war on drugs.


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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: Phred]
    #2641398 - 05/05/04 01:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I laugh myself to sleep at least one night out of every seven thinking of the absolute crap I see posted here in this forum.

Do you ever laugh about the absolute crap you posted about Iraqi WMD? Or is that a little too close to the knuckle?

Take this hilarious gem you posted for example:

But in the case of Iraq, not only did the US believe Iraq had possessed functional WMDs, they knew it -- and so did every other intelligence agency in the world.

There is a difference between being open minded and being so "open minded" that facts and logic pour out of the hole in one's cranium if one tilts one's head too far to one side or the other (the left side).

And yet after being proved so resoundingly wrong on WMD you still refuse to alter your belief systems to take reality into account.

In the US, people are still to a large extent responsible for themselves.

Do you believe the US people decided to spend countless billions of their money invading Iraq? Or did a handful of people in Washington decide that for them? Note how in "socialist" countries like Spain the people have taken responsibility from the government and forced the troops to be withdrawn. That's a true example of people having responsibility for their lives.

the US president doesn't create jobs. US private industry does.

Read up on a thing called the New deal. It's what happened when private industry ran the economy into the ground..

the US has never -- repeat never -- seized oil from anyone

Then what is it doing in Iraq? Oh..I forgot..it's the "threat" of WMD isn't it... :rolleyes:


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Re: my anti bush rants [Re: baraka]
    #2641458 - 05/05/04 01:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I have to say money wise, i am republican, lots of the social issues im more libertarian.

My view is bush is probably not the best guy for the job, but kerry is much worse.  Scary Kerry

I see it boiling still down to democrats losing in the last election by a small amount and being pissed about it.  I mean look at all thier arguments, they are nuts....  Unemployment isnt any better/worse then with clinton.  We insource WAY WAY more jobs from other countries then we outsource by a long shot. 

By reading king of the things first post you can totally get the vibe.

EDit:
Get out of the phantasy land if you think gore/kerry can/would stop or lessen the war on drugs.




I agree,  although it would be cool to have Harry Carey (not Scary Kerry) for president. Since he's dead we could get Will Ferrel to impersonate him. :thumbup:


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Re: my anti bush rants [Re: baraka]
    #2642006 - 05/05/04 04:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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baraka said:
Get out of the phantasy land if you think gore/kerry can/would stop or lessen the war on drugs.




kerry's drug record :

- Admits having smoked marijuana. (Nov 2003)
- Voted NO on increasing penalties for drug offenses. (Nov 1999)
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    #2642034 - 05/05/04 04:44 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Alex123 writes:

Do you ever laugh about the absolute crap you posted about Iraqi WMD? Or is that a little too close to the knuckle?

Take this hilarious gem you posted for example:


Quote:

But in the case of Iraq, not only did the US believe Iraq had possessed functional WMDs, they knew it -- and so did every other intelligence agency in the world. Not only that, but Hussein had actually used his chem weaponry on several occasions.




Alex, if you would like to point out any inaccuracies in my statement, feel free to do so. Before making such an attempt, I suggest you review the rules of English grammar, then re-read my quote in the light of your newly-refreshed knowledge of how the English language works.

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Re: my anti bush rants [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2642408 - 05/05/04 06:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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    #2642992 - 05/05/04 09:45 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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once upon a time there was a man named George, he decided to argue with his mommy. George said that if you don't accept jesus as your savior you don't goto heaven. His mommy disagreed and said that if you live a good life, you will goto heaven no matter what. NO NO NO George screamed, I AM RIGHT WHAAAAAAAAA, I'm gonna call Billy Graham to settle this fight. So George called Billy Graham and Billy sided with George's mommy. NO NO NO Bush screamed, you must accept JESUS!!! YOU ARE WRONG BILLY!! What would Billy Graham know about christianity? :lol:




Learn to type.  That story was actually about JohnJohn Kennedy, it appeared in articles that discussed his privlidged life he had when he was growing up.
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THE END (this is a 100% true story btw, i may have imbelished just a bit :smirk:)



Then it's not 100% true. Also, as it's about a Mass Democrat rather than the target of your ignorance, it really takes a large amount of steam out of it.  I can't find that story about the Kennedy boy making this call, so I'll make a challenge. Whoever can come up with ths post that proves their side has to stop posting threads that contain profanity, bad grammar, and logical inconsistencies. deal/


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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: germin8tionn8ion]
    #2643022 - 05/05/04 09:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

umm no, that was bush. YOU are wrong, i watched the jesus factor on PBS. click the link trendal provided :smile: educate yourself


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    #2643027 - 05/05/04 09:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Then it's not 100% true. Also, as it's about a Mass Democrat rather than the target of your ignorance, it really takes a large amount of steam out of it. I can't find that story about the Kennedy boy making this call, so I'll make a challenge. Whoever can come up with ths post that proves their side has to stop posting threads that contain profanity, bad grammar, and logical inconsistencies. deal

Looks like King wins here :wink:

I'll post the link again:
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Re: my anti bush rants [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2643546 - 05/06/04 12:00 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)


kerry's drug record :

- Admits having smoked marijuana. (Nov 2003)
- Voted NO on increasing penalties for drug offenses. (Nov 1999)
- Voted NO on spending international development funds on drug control. (Jul 1996)






Yay, he sounds like the next Klinton.

Did he vote no on those issues before or after he voted yes on them?


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    #2644824 - 05/06/04 11:50 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Alex, if you would like to point out any inaccuracies in my statement, feel free to do so

not only did the US believe Iraq had possessed functional WMDs, they knew it

Inaccurate.

and so did every other intelligence agency in the world

Inaccurate

Not only that, but Hussein had actually used his chem weaponry on several occasions

But not in the previous 10 years. Indeed the vast bulk of chemical weapon use occured during the 80's while fully supported by the Reagan and Bush administration.


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    #2644951 - 05/06/04 12:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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kerry's drug record :

- Admits having smoked marijuana. (Nov 2003)
- Voted NO on increasing penalties for drug offenses. (Nov 1999)
- Voted NO on spending international development funds on drug control. (Jul 1996)






Yay, he sounds like the next Klinton.

Did he vote no on those issues before or after he voted yes on them?



As with his other votes, he's much more consistent than the Bush administration would lead you to believe.


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    #2646006 - 05/06/04 04:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well, Alex, that's not going to cut the mustard.

My statement was that the US believed Iraq had possessed WMDs. And in fact, Iraq had possessed WMDs, so their beliefs (and hence my statement) were accurate. The first round of inspectors confirmed Hussein had possessed WMDs. These would be the stockpiles that UNSCOM later verified in their reports as having been 90 to 95 per cent destroyed.

When I say that every other intelligence agency in the world also knew this, I am again being accurate, because they also had access to the reports of the UNSCOM inspectors.

And of course, everyone knew that Hussein had used chem weaponry on several occasions. Clearly, in order to have used them, he first had to have possessed them.

So here's my statement once agin:

Quote:

"But in the case of Iraq, not only did the US believe Iraq had possessed functional WMDs, they knew it -- and so did every other intelligence agency in the world. Not only that, but Hussein had actually used his chem weaponry on several occasions."




Once again, I strongly suggest you review the rules of grammar for the English language before responding. Pay particular attention to the concept of "verb tense".

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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: Phred]
    #2646060 - 05/06/04 04:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Bzzzzt! Wrong! US unemployment is 5.7 %. This, by the way, is easily verifiable.

Bzzzzt! Wrong! Unemployment is not now and never has been measured. Unemployment claims are measured. When unemployment benefits run out, one does not magically become employed as the Admin would have one believe; yet that is what their statistics reflect.


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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: Swami]
    #2646212 - 05/06/04 05:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well, Swami, if in fact unemployment has never been measured, Grizz's claim is no more correct than a claim that unemployment is the lowest it has been in twenty years.

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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: Phred]
    #2646245 - 05/06/04 05:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: Swami]
    #2646317 - 05/06/04 05:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

If you don't stop biting yourself in the ass we're going to have to put one of those cones on you.



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Re: my anti bush rants [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2648862 - 05/07/04 02:30 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i got some rants too, check out my site it has a number of links and stuff, plus some of my personal experiances in life that involved the man targeting me via the patriot act.


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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: Phred]
    #2649616 - 05/07/04 12:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well, Alex, that's not going to cut the mustard

/Me pulls up chair...

My statement was that the US believed Iraq had possessed WMDs. And in fact, Iraq had possessed WMDs, so their beliefs (and hence my statement) were accurate.

No, you would need to add a DATE for your statement have any accuracy. WHEN did they know this? They didn't know Iraq possessed WMD in 2002, 2001, 2000, 1999, indeed for at least 10 years. So your statement was demonstrably inaccurate for at least the last 10 years.

Try again  :smirk:


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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: Xlea321]
    #2649674 - 05/07/04 12:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

actually it would have to have a date to be inaccurate. without a date, it is accurate, though not terribly informative.


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Re: my anti bush rants [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2650349 - 05/07/04 04:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Okey dokey, I've seen enough people avoid and not answer many of these questions to any sort of satisfactory degree -- perhaps it needs translation into something that could possibly be mistaken for English. So wherever nobody seems to want to answer questions, I'll translate, and I'll answer.

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1) Why are there are riders on the broadcast indecency bill allowing clear chanel (i cant evevn list all the ways they are tied to bush) to buy more stations, even though they may be violating antitrust laws.




1. Why has the FCC lifted it's antirrust regulations on media conglomerates such as Clear Channel, Viacom, and other giants, allowing them to purchase more radio stations, television stations, and newspapers than ever before, thereby driving local stations and media companies out of business?

Now, I'll answer it: lobbyists. Don't blame Dubya, blame Congress. It never ceases to amaze me what we'll lay at the feet of one man who doesn't actually write any of these laws.

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2) Why should we have a constitutional amendment banning marriage between to consenting adults? If you really hate the idea of 2 gay people getting married.. Why is Bush also against civil unions?




We shouldn't. This bill isn't through Congress, by any means (remember, those guys in Washington, DC, that we elect to represent us?), and if you want it to stay that way, feel free to write your Congressmen and/or Senators. Bear in mind that America was founded as a puritan country. We wanted the freedom to practice -OUR- religion, and while everyone else is welcome to practice theirs here too, just remember who was here first. FYI, I'm not Christian, I just know how to look at a fact and acknowledge it as something that I'm not going to be able to change.

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3) Why shouldn't the government put money into stem cell research? Why, when saked about his decision on stem cell did bush say he consulted with a higher power?




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3. Why is the federal government choosing not to put money into stem cell research?




The state of California has decided to start taking a look at funding stem cell research, and today, I believe, Nancy Reagan is giving a speech at a fundraiser for Juvenile Diabetes, where it is rumoured that she will give her official support for stem cell research. Dubya is also looking again at funding for it, as public support for stem cell research grows.

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4) Why did Bush say our troops were doing god's work? last time i checked we didn't all belive in god in the USA. Also, i thought we were looking for not WMDs, not doing God's Work.




"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, with liberty and justice for all."

The Pledge would seem to disagree with you, KOTT. In general, I'm a very goal-oriented person, which is to say, I don't really care HOW something gets done, as long as it gets done. A lot of people like religion -- there's a reason it's called the opiate of the masses -- and if that helps them get through their day, absolutely smashing, as long as what was supposed to get done, gets done. I mean, it's not like we didn't know Dubya was a bible-thumper or anything when we voted him in.

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5) Why did bush think it was funny to pretend to look for WMDs in his office, as part of some skit? aren't people dying in iraq? not funny.




People are dying everywhere. Besides, the WMDs in the White House are probably in one of the sub-basements (ie. enough explosives to take out the entire block), not in his office. It wasn't funny, but I wouldn't call it insensitive, or at least, not nearly as insensitive as, oh, I don't know, shutting down printing presses in Iraq that are disagreeing with American occupation. Fallujah, anyone?

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6) Why shouldn't abortion be legal? Bush doesnt think it should be.




And that's what he's said from the get-go. At least he didn't change his tune on this one like he did on his State of the Union, where he said he was cutting discretionary spending by 90%. Really great speech, if you can find it on tape... I laughed until I cried, and then i cried until I laughed, and then I started applying for my papers so I can move to Canada permanently.

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7) Why was Operation Pipe Dreams a good idea?




Hello? You're on a drug forum -- I hope you aren't trying to come up with someone to answer this positively. Whatever Bush may say, he's only repeating what the latest drug czar has told him to say about it. The DEA is out not to end the war on drugs, but to perpetuate it -- this is all of their livelihoods, this is how they put food on their tables, and this is how they support their families. If someone came up to you at your work and said "Welp, they've all got to go, their jobs are pointless," how do you think you'd react?

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8) Why did our attorney general waste $3000 covering up the breast on a statue that 15 prior attorney generals have stood in front of?




John Ashcroft is a DIRECT FUCKING RESULT of American idiocy. Whenever anything that could possibly be construed as controversial pops up, lawsuits follow it like fried chicken and black people (or fast food and white people, at least the black people are eating real meat). The media-publicized outcries and complaints that we hear are only a tiny minority of people, yet that's all you see in the media, is these complaints -- it's hard to write an article that says "So-and-so doesn't care that McDonald's makes him fat", so they publish the ones that blame everyone else, and to the reader of a paper that talks like that, they might think that we just want people to be responsible for us. We want the government to control things, but only the way WE want them controlled... but wouldn't WE be controlling it then, and not the government?

Bottom line, I don't like Ashcroft, but like EVERY OTHER PERSON IN THIS ADMINISTRATION, he believes he is doing what is right.

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9) Why can't you just admit Bush is an evil fuckwit?




Here's a reword on this question: 9. What, specifically, makes George W. Bush either a good, or a bad President?

In my opinion, Dubya's not a "good" Pres, per se, but he's definitely a strong one (refer to his brain trust), and I'd rather have a strong one in there than some wussy man who's gonna roll over to every crazy-libby lobby on Capitol Hill like Gore probably would have.


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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: Xlea321]
    #2650504 - 05/07/04 05:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

His statement was accurate. Yours as usual, was not.


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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: Xlea321]
    #2650769 - 05/07/04 06:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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not only did the US believe Iraq had possessed functional WMDs, they knew it

Inaccurate.




The US didn't know that the Iraqis, at any time in the past (As indicated by the word 'had') posessed WMD's? Don't you constantly regurgitate the 'fact' that Rummy was the one selling them to him? If party X sells item Y to an individual, wouldn't party X be reasonable sure that the individual has item Y, unless evidence was offered of it's destruction. This is plain english here, no complications. Saddam had WMD's. Had is the past tense of the verb "to have". It doesn't mean in the recent past, or 14 years ago past, it means any point in prior chronology. That is what "had" means, and we do know that he "HAD" them.
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Inaccurate




Pinkys accuracy isn't even questionable here, your literacy is.
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But not in the previous 10 years. Indeed the vast bulk of chemical weapon use occured during the 80's while fully supported by the Reagan and Bush administration.




So, from your statment, would you say that Saddam HAD WMD's? Since you just said he was using them? And wasn't rummy participating in giving him those WMD's? Thus, wouldn't rummy know that he had them? Maybe in liberallogic things don't work that way. Or maybe you are a complete boob.


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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: germin8tionn8ion]
    #2650792 - 05/07/04 06:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

*singing*

Got to let your spirit go
Ad Hominems that ebb and flow
You're not stupid, you're just slow
I've got a lawn for you to mow

*/singing*

So, correct me if I'm wrong because asking about this always yields 50 different answers, all claiming to be the only truth, but in the 80s, Saddam gassed a bunch of Kurds, for which we got a little pissed, yelled at him, and he said he destroyed his WMD, and we apparently believed him (if we didn't, why didn't we go destroy them then?). Now, we use this same item that we believed destroyed, and we change our minds on believing it? It just doesn't hold water.


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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: taco]
    #2650803 - 05/07/04 06:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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taco said:
So, correct me if I'm wrong because asking about this always yields 50 different answers, all claiming to be the only truth, but in the 80s, Saddam gassed a bunch of Kurds, for which we got a little pissed, yelled at him, and he said he destroyed his WMD, and we apparently believed him (if we didn't, why didn't we go destroy them then?). Now, we use this same item that we believed destroyed, and we change our minds on believing it? It just doesn't hold water.



Can you show me where Saddam said that he destroyed them back inthe 80's? It seems that it would be odd for us to have the restrictions placed upon him after the persian gulf war if he did this.


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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: germin8tionn8ion]
    #2650813 - 05/07/04 06:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, gimme a couple mins to scare up an article or two. It's just more revisionist American history, just like how we won the Vietnam War.

edit;
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2003/03/55587.html

I know it's a little older, but I remember them talking about it after the Gulf War and, more recently, last year.


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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: germin8tionn8ion]
    #2656974 - 05/09/04 03:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

your literacy is.

Ah yes...my literacy. How does it compare to yours I wonder? Surprisingly enough there are precisely two people on the board who have spelled "palestinean" the way you do in the last year - TOYK and you...


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