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 Phred
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 Re: my anit bush rants  [Re: Grizz]
#2639170 - 05/04/04 10:29 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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grizz writes:
USA unemployment is at its worst slump in almost 20 years.
Bzzzzt! Wrong! US unemployment is 5.7 %. Exactly the same as it was in Clinton's third year of his second term. This, by the way, is easily verifiable. It's just that the Libbies don't bother to actually check things. Too much effort. If a Bush hater says it is so, it must be so, because Bush is an evil stupid genius.
I laugh myself to sleep at least one night out of every seven thinking of the absolute crap I see posted here in this forum. What makes me laugh? The fact that this easily refuted crap is posted by those who proclaim themselves to be immune to "neocon" "brainwashing". There is a difference between being open minded and being so "open minded" that facts and logic pour out of the hole in one's cranium if one tilts one's head too far to one side or the other (the left side).
Your president is responsible for your country.
In a Socialist country, perhaps this is true. In a country with still some modicum of freedom left, this is untrue. In the US, people are still to a large extent responsible for themselves. In the US, there is (unfortunately) a safety net. There is not as yet (unlike Canada, England, and Oz), a safety hammock.
If he put as much time and money into unemployment as he does into a war about oil....
I realize these are difficult concepts for those born and raised in a Socialist country to grasp, but here's how it works in the US (and no, I am not a US citizen -- I was born in Canada and spent the first three and a half decades of my life there before moving to my beautiful banana Republic third world paradise) --
1) the US president doesn't create jobs. US private industry does.
2) the US has never -- repeat never -- seized oil from anyone. The US buys oil from whoever chooses to sell it, at the price set by the seller.
Maybe things are run differently in Oz. But we're not talking about Oz in this thread, are we?
pinky
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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: Phred]
#2639208 - 05/04/04 10:37 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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pinksharkmark said:
If a Bush hater says it is so, it must be so, because Bush is an evil stupid genius.
pinky
Now, I wouldn't go that far. The rest sounds good, though.
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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: Ekstaza]
#2639356 - 05/04/04 11:11 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Ekstaza said:
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pinksharkmark said:
If a Bush hater says it is so, it must be so, because Bush is an evil stupid genius.
pinky
bush is stupid, and a puppet, the people pulling is strings are evil, duh 
here let me tell you a story about G.W. :
once upon a time there was a man named George, he decided to argue with his mommy. George said that if you don't accept jesus as your savior you don't goto heaven. His mommy disagreed and said that if you live a good life, you will goto heaven no matter what. NO NO NO George screamed, I AM RIGHT WHAAAAAAAAA, I'm gonna call Billy Graham to settle this fight. So George called Billy Graham and Billy sided with George's mommy. NO NO NO Bush screamed, you must accept JESUS!!! YOU ARE WRONG BILLY!! What would Billy Graham know about christianity?
THE END (this is a 100% true story btw, i may have imbelished just a bit  )
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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: Ekstaza]
#2639422 - 05/04/04 11:20 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Now, I wouldn't go that far.
Are you kidding me?
This is the man who has orchestrated a world wide conspiracy, or at least been their figurehead. With the
lying, and conspiring, and war-mongoring, and polluting, and killing, and stealing, he's been able to avoid impeachment. And charges against him. And enough relavent evidence to convince those endowed with the (apparent) gift of analytical thought of his wrongdoing.
He takes the country to war, killing people, just to fatten his buddies pockets. Staging a terrorist attack on American soil, just to take away peoples freedom.
All the while convincing those who take issue with his policies, he's the most stupid president, if not person, we've ever seen?
This guy could be nothing other than a truly evil, stupid acting, genius.
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Lincoln was actually very similar. He pretended to be dumb so that people would underestimate him, but was actually a clever manipulator.
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this is a 100% true story btw, i may have imbelished just a bit
here for the story: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jesus/view/
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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: trendal]
#2640254 - 05/05/04 03:24 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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EXCELLENT videos. Now I don't like him on an even more personal level.
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Ekstaza
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I'm fairly certain you should review your skills at using the quote function.
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I have to say money wise, i am republican, lots of the social issues im more libertarian.
My view is bush is probably not the best guy for the job, but kerry is much worse. Scary Kerry
I see it boiling still down to democrats losing in the last election by a small amount and being pissed about it. I mean look at all thier arguments, they are nuts.... Unemployment isnt any better/worse then with clinton. We insource WAY WAY more jobs from other countries then we outsource by a long shot.
By reading king of the things first post you can totally get the vibe.
EDit:
Get out of the phantasy land if you think gore/kerry can/would stop or lessen the war on drugs.
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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: Phred]
#2641398 - 05/05/04 11:42 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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I laugh myself to sleep at least one night out of every seven thinking of the absolute crap I see posted here in this forum.
Do you ever laugh about the absolute crap you posted about Iraqi WMD? Or is that a little too close to the knuckle?
Take this hilarious gem you posted for example:
But in the case of Iraq, not only did the US believe Iraq had possessed functional WMDs, they knew it -- and so did every other intelligence agency in the world.
There is a difference between being open minded and being so "open minded" that facts and logic pour out of the hole in one's cranium if one tilts one's head too far to one side or the other (the left side).
And yet after being proved so resoundingly wrong on WMD you still refuse to alter your belief systems to take reality into account.
In the US, people are still to a large extent responsible for themselves.
Do you believe the US people decided to spend countless billions of their money invading Iraq? Or did a handful of people in Washington decide that for them? Note how in "socialist" countries like Spain the people have taken responsibility from the government and forced the troops to be withdrawn. That's a true example of people having responsibility for their lives.
the US president doesn't create jobs. US private industry does.
Read up on a thing called the New deal. It's what happened when private industry ran the economy into the ground..
the US has never -- repeat never -- seized oil from anyone
Then what is it doing in Iraq? Oh..I forgot..it's the "threat" of WMD isn't it... 
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Re: my anti bush rants [Re: baraka]
#2641458 - 05/05/04 11:52 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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baraka said:
I have to say money wise, i am republican, lots of the social issues im more libertarian.
My view is bush is probably not the best guy for the job, but kerry is much worse. Scary Kerry
I see it boiling still down to democrats losing in the last election by a small amount and being pissed about it. I mean look at all thier arguments, they are nuts.... Unemployment isnt any better/worse then with clinton. We insource WAY WAY more jobs from other countries then we outsource by a long shot.
By reading king of the things first post you can totally get the vibe.
EDit:
Get out of the phantasy land if you think gore/kerry can/would stop or lessen the war on drugs.
I agree, although it would be cool to have Harry Carey (not Scary Kerry) for president. Since he's dead we could get Will Ferrel to impersonate him. 
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Re: my anti bush rants [Re: baraka]
#2642006 - 05/05/04 02:35 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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baraka said:
Get out of the phantasy land if you think gore/kerry can/would stop or lessen the war on drugs.
kerry's drug record :
- Admits having smoked marijuana. (Nov 2003)
- Voted NO on increasing penalties for drug offenses. (Nov 1999)
- Voted NO on spending international development funds on drug control. (Jul 1996)
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Phred
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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: Xlea321]
#2642034 - 05/05/04 02:44 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Alex123 writes:
Do you ever laugh about the absolute crap you posted about Iraqi WMD? Or is that a little too close to the knuckle?
Take this hilarious gem you posted for example:
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But in the case of Iraq, not only did the US believe Iraq had possessed functional WMDs, they knew it -- and so did every other intelligence agency in the world. Not only that, but Hussein had actually used his chem weaponry on several occasions.
Alex, if you would like to point out any inaccuracies in my statement, feel free to do so. Before making such an attempt, I suggest you review the rules of English grammar, then re-read my quote in the light of your newly-refreshed knowledge of how the English language works.
pinky
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KingOftheThing said:
once upon a time there was a man named George, he decided to argue with his mommy. George said that if you don't accept jesus as your savior you don't goto heaven. His mommy disagreed and said that if you live a good life, you will goto heaven no matter what. NO NO NO George screamed, I AM RIGHT WHAAAAAAAAA, I'm gonna call Billy Graham to settle this fight. So George called Billy Graham and Billy sided with George's mommy. NO NO NO Bush screamed, you must accept JESUS!!! YOU ARE WRONG BILLY!! What would Billy Graham know about christianity?
Learn to type. That story was actually about JohnJohn Kennedy, it appeared in articles that discussed his privlidged life he had when he was growing up.
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THE END (this is a 100% true story btw, i may have imbelished just a bit )
Then it's not 100% true. Also, as it's about a Mass Democrat rather than the target of your ignorance, it really takes a large amount of steam out of it. I can't find that story about the Kennedy boy making this call, so I'll make a challenge. Whoever can come up with ths post that proves their side has to stop posting threads that contain profanity, bad grammar, and logical inconsistencies. deal/
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KingOftheThing
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umm no, that was bush. YOU are wrong, i watched the jesus factor on PBS. click the link trendal provided  educate yourself
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Then it's not 100% true. Also, as it's about a Mass Democrat rather than the target of your ignorance, it really takes a large amount of steam out of it. I can't find that story about the Kennedy boy making this call, so I'll make a challenge. Whoever can come up with ths post that proves their side has to stop posting threads that contain profanity, bad grammar, and logical inconsistencies. deal
Looks like King wins here 
I'll post the link again:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jesus/view/
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kerry's drug record :
- Admits having smoked marijuana. (Nov 2003)
- Voted NO on increasing penalties for drug offenses. (Nov 1999)
- Voted NO on spending international development funds on drug control. (Jul 1996)
Yay, he sounds like the next Klinton.
Did he vote no on those issues before or after he voted yes on them?
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Re: my anit bush rants [Re: Phred]
#2644824 - 05/06/04 09:50 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Alex, if you would like to point out any inaccuracies in my statement, feel free to do so
not only did the US believe Iraq had possessed functional WMDs, they knew it
Inaccurate.
and so did every other intelligence agency in the world
Inaccurate
Not only that, but Hussein had actually used his chem weaponry on several occasions
But not in the previous 10 years. Indeed the vast bulk of chemical weapon use occured during the 80's while fully supported by the Reagan and Bush administration.
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Quote:
Baby_Hitler said:
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kerry's drug record :
- Admits having smoked marijuana. (Nov 2003)
- Voted NO on increasing penalties for drug offenses. (Nov 1999)
- Voted NO on spending international development funds on drug control. (Jul 1996)
Yay, he sounds like the next Klinton.
Did he vote no on those issues before or after he voted yes on them?
As with his other votes, he's much more consistent than the Bush administration would lead you to believe.
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