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Time frame?
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Hello everyone, really excited to start this new journey ahead. I've been studying and learning as much as I can, but there's just one question that I have to ask to be completely clear. I worked away from home alot and only have about 25 to 26 days to work with. From START to FINISH, is that enough time to get at least one flush of ANY species/variety?
Hoping for GT or AES Hawaian
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Nope
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I inoculated my jars on Oct 26 and they were just harvested about 2 weeks ago...
And that's not including the time it took to grow spores out on agar and colonize my lc...
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What if I have someone else inoculate about a week before I get there, would that help? Does living in South Florida help?
How much time do I need.?
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I'm assuming your doing brf jars, so probably around a month until they are fully colonized and then around 2-3 weeks after birthing them until you harvest...
My numbers may be a little off but ya generally 6-8 weeks
Living in Florida also doesn't help. You basically want temps to be in the 70's through out the entire grow cycle...
Edited by SpunkyMonkey88 (12/15/19 01:06 PM)
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That's also assuming your using spores lc or agar wedge would be quicker..
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Honestly, since I knew I had so little time, I was going to do Uncle Ben's rice (brf) in the bag and when cololnizied, go straight to fruiting. I know its not the preferred method, but I don't see any other way to to this, with a 28 day on/off work schedule. My partner doesn't really won't too help much. Kills fake plants!!!
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cordell383 said: Honestly, since I knew I had so little time, I was going to do Uncle Ben's rice (brf) in the bag and when cololnizied, go straight to fruiting. I know its not the preferred method, but I don't see any other way to to this, with a 28 day on/off work schedule. My partner doesn't really won't too help much. Kills fake plants!!!
Make some brf jars knock em up and go to work when you come back they should be close to done then birth them and you should have ur first flush before u go back to work...
I sont know much about the rice bags so I cant comment.
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Thanks for the help. So I'm thinking, knock the jars up right before I leave for work, then 32 days later, I'll come back and birth em in a SGFC?. Does that sound about right?. 32 days isn't too long to leave then unattended? Are there any chance for problems?
Thanks again.
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Purrfect 
Theres always a chance for problems but the 32 day thing wont be one of the (potential) problems...
If the jars are colonized before that 32 days it wont be that much earlier so it wont hurt to let em sit and consolidate for a little hit either.
Chances are they'll be just about perfect and ready to birth to your sgfc when u get home..
No problem man good luck!
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Thanks again. Really appreciate the help.
Now it just sucks I have to wait SO LONG.
I was really hoping to see some fruit on my next time home..
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cordell383 said: Thanks again. Really appreciate the help.
Now it just sucks I have to wait SO LONG.
I was really hoping to see some fruit on my next time home..
Ya the waiting game sucks but way worth it to be able to transcend reality with your own mushrooms...
Plus if you decide to get into agar, you could keep some cultures going by cloning your best mushrooms and storing them. This is where I am st right now and it's crazy exciting!
You should never have to buy spores again if you play your cards right...
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Speaking of LC, if I started with that, would it speed up my time frame? Then after that, I'm promise I'll do it the right way....
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That depends on where you're at.. Im Assuming you are starting with a spore syringe. In which case, even If that spore syringe was 100% clean (which 99% chance it isnt) it will still take longer because it will take a couple weeks for the lc to colonize.
LCs always sound so damn inviting for noobs, but they can lead to a fucking train wreck and most likely will unless you are 100% sure it is clean.
The only way to make sure it is clean is VIA agar.
Imagine you'd spore syringe and imagine with in that spore syringe are millions of spores, well there is also a bunch of bacteria and sometimes even worse suspended within that spore syringe...
Then you inoculate a LC and a bunch of spores and a little bacteria are now floating in your liquid media.
Spores will most likely germinate but that little bit of bacteria in there is fucking growing like crazy aswell.
You are giving the tams within the spore syringe a head start in over running your grow..
Atleast this is how I had it described to me when I was wondering the same thing.
I ended up cleaning up a spore print on agar and was 2 transfers in and I still breed a bacterial LC!
You would be way better off just paying the extra 10 bucks for another spore syringe.
Plus it would still take a couple weeks for that LC to be ready. But yeah once the lc is colonized, thay can be used to knock up and colonize your jars much faster.
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If your looking to speed things up, u cant until you get some cultures or mushrooms growing.
That is the only way to speed things up, is if you got a clean culture on hand. The. You can make an lc or just drop an agar wedge on some grains.
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If you are doing BRF cakes it would prob be best to inoculate them before you go back to work and they should be done by the time you get back.
For now, you could make up some petris and learn agar work for a few weeks. You might end up with a clean culture that could be used to inoculate grain jars before you go away.
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You could always start brf jars and grain jars then make a shoebox. As long as you make it with enough water it’ll grow on its own and your partner will just need to pick them when they’re ready.
Worst case it totally fails and you still have the pf tek jars waiting. Which only make stronger shrooms the longer they sit btw.
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Re: Time frame? [Re: A.k.a]
#26385486 - 12/16/19 04:49 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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A.k.a said: You could always start brf jars and grain jars then make a shoebox. As long as you make it with enough water it’ll grow on its own and your partner will just need to pick them when they’re ready.
Worst case it totally fails and you still have the pf tek jars waiting. Which only make stronger shrooms the longer they sit btw.
What... I never heard that one b4. If that's true I'm about to have some dank ass shrooms cus I just spawned 4 qts that were 50 days old
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Really?? Somebody did a whole thread about it.. I want to say primal but I might be mixing it up with the purple mystic thread.
Basically the longer brf jars sit the better they get. I think one month after 100% was the minimum for noticeable effects.
They did tubs too but I don’t remember anything about spawn jar consolidation. Leaving the tubs in colonization conditions for extra time increased potency though.
Shit 50 days I guess youll see if letting grain spawn sit has any effect. That must be so thick and hard to break up. I started using this giant nail like 9 inches long to poke into my wbs jars and break them up lol.
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Possible sure if you do everything perfectly the first time, and luck and genetics are on your side. Very unlikely though, and you'd miss your second flush for sure.
It will take some serious effort to narrow it town to a colony that will preform within your parameters.
Get into agar. Start making LC. LC is really fast once you have some going.
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