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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: coAsTal] * 1
    #26376628 - 12/12/19 07:05 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

MARVELOUS!..is all i can say of your write up bro that trip sounded like it changed your perspective in many ways.


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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: Mariochi64] * 1
    #26376649 - 12/12/19 07:26 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah the crazy thing is even after I took the benzo, the day after, I still had tracers. I must have taken 400ug. The benzo didn't even kl the trip after it kicked in, I was still tripping it's just I had my mind back


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #26376654 - 12/12/19 07:32 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I took 2 gel tabs yesterday and it was like nothing then everything in like 10 minutes after waiting almost 2 hrs, Definitely rocked my world. i'm definitely still quite reflective at 9 30am after 6-8hrs of sleep and taking the drug around 2pm yesterday ended up just drawing, was a pretty awesome experience. learned something new about myself.


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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: Mariochi64] * 4
    #26376688 - 12/12/19 07:58 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Nah Bill, I don’t think you are a rookie. If anything, you eat too much acid, lol.

And, like I said, I totally understand taking a benzo. Sometimes shit is too much, and letting go doesn’t seem like an option. I just wanted to echo the idea that terminating a trip when things get rough isn’t ideal, like the previous poster who mentioned it, except I was trying not to be as judgy.

My other point is definitely the weed. I used to smoke weed all the time when tripping.... and I had tons of bad trips until I connected the dots and stopped getting high while tripping, at least until comedown.

I mentioned ego death because you seem to have been fighting hard to resist. So, the hippy side of my curiosity does wonder what would have happened if you would have chosen to “die” right there. But, again, I totally get that that may not have been a realistic idea at the time. Still, I’m curious. 😊

It’s all good man, it is not like there are higher or lower scores being passed out. Please don’t think I intend to judge or look down on anyone’s experience. It’s all a journey and I bet I will get in over my head soon enough.  On that note: it could be worse, we could be shaming a pro like you for losing their shit on two tabs, lol jk.

The best news is, at least you know you have some potent acid!

And thanks for the write up, you didn’t have to post this, and then much more to deal with criticism on top.


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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26376714 - 12/12/19 08:13 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Shr00mEater said:
Nah Bill, I don’t think you are a rookie. If anything, you eat too much acid, lol.

And, like I said, I totally understand taking a benzo. Sometimes shit is too much, and letting go doesn’t seem like an option. I just wanted to echo the idea that terminating a trip when things get rough isn’t ideal, like the previous poster who mentioned it, except I was trying not to be as judgy.

My other point is definitely the weed. I used to smoke weed all the time when tripping.... and I had tons of bad trips until I connected the dots and stopped getting high while tripping, at least until comedown.

I mentioned ego death because you seem to have been fighting hard to resist. So, the hippy side of my curiosity does wonder what would have happened if you would have chosen to “die” right there. But, again, I totally get that that may not have been a realistic idea at the time. Still, I’m curious. 😊

It’s all good man, it is not like there are higher or lower scores being passed out. Please don’t think I intend to judge or look down on anyone’s experience. It’s all a journey and I bet I will get in over my head soon enough.  On that note: it could be worse, we could be shaming a pro like you for losing their shit on two tabs, lol jk.

The best news is, at least you know you have some potent acid!

And thanks for the write up, you didn’t have to post this, and then much more to deal with criticism on top.





The thing is, by not taking the benzo I wasn't risking death of my ego or any of that. I was risking running outside with little to no clothes on. This was past the point of ego and all that.. literally nothing had meaning and everything was stripped down to the nuts and bolts. Sure, I hate having to succumb to taking a benzo and I fought it off until the last minute. But I wasn't going to risk making a fool of myself by going crazy again. Trust me, if it was just about death of the ego, I would have just hit the fetal position or rode it out. This was different. All I wanted was control over myself again and the ability to just be normal. When I am in deep trips I don't think like that. This was a whole different level.

I just gotta know not to touch weed until the comedown. I also underestimated the potency of the gels. They are legit 200ug tabs. I only meant to take 200ug in total, not 400ug. So not only did I take more than I wanted, I also smoked weed during it. Those two things are recipes for disaster. It sucks having to share this but hey I tell all, not just the good. And yes, thank you for not shaming me. Although I think I have an out here because I have admitted many times that fucking God damn weed is my nemsis. Its the only thing can make me go nuts. I have no idea why.

Literally Everytime I have went nuts weed/hash oil was involved. Everytime. The only other time I had to abort a trip was my last time because I mixed my acid with an edible. I did it the time before and it went well I actually went into hyperspace due to the edible and mentally everything went great. With all the tripping I have done I only used a benzo twice. I am ashamed of it but I don't think I'm doing too bad for a the times things could have went South.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #26376761 - 12/12/19 08:36 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

For the record:

Anybody that wants to come in here and take pot shots, telling you how you "should have just muscled through it bro" is a motherfucking moron--

If they are stupid enough to come into a trip report thread about a clearly heavy experience and sit in their fucking comfy armchair judgement, admonishing others for taking a pill to try and weather an unexpectedly hard situation, they clearly have never gotten past the dipshit carnival phase of psychedelic use-- and it makes them sound like an arrogant frat boy.

Psychedelics can be terrifying, traumatic things.

They're not always games, like the most inexperienced people often make them out to be-- the same kind of people that wear (usually un-earned) bravado in their costless internet posts are the same people encouraging other innocent people to make bad decisions elsewhere.

"Take MOAR" "You're just weak" "I've taken 1000ug at the DMV and I was fine" "I guess you just couldn't handle it" are all things said by immature, ignorant people.

If you're saying things like that to anyone, you are making it crystal clear that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about-- and someday you'll get your Cosmic Fuck You delivered to your doorstep by going too deep yourself, and you'll apologize for making your stupid comments to people with infinitely more experience than you.

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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: coAsTal]
    #26376782 - 12/12/19 08:50 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

:fuckyeah:


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26376988 - 12/12/19 11:01 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Not sure if any of last post was directed my way, as I haven't really seen any judgmental posts in this thread.. but I wasn't trying to pass judgment on Bill and I certainly never said anything along the lines that he is weak or should take more...

I was just expressing my own insight as to what has worked for me in regards to avoiding these situations altogether.

I have had several traumatic trip experiences in my past which lead to long breaks from psychedelics entirely - and this after they were already a heavy part of my life. So I have a huge appreciation for how hard it can be, and I also have a lot of anxiety/general fear around going into heavy trips now because of my past experiences...

What has worked for me to totally avoid falling into these spaces is approaching trips how I have posted here.

In my view, taking 2 tabs and watching South Park is the kind of thing that can lead to these sort of trip, and once you're there its going to be pretty hard to navigate your way out. I was just trying to say that if he had started out laying down with headphones, he may never have ended up in the space.

Not saying it out of judgment, just speaking from what I've learned for myself :shrug:


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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: pixelpopper] * 2
    #26377040 - 12/12/19 11:28 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

In no way directed at you brother-- you're an excellent and friendly poster-- you offer advice and insight.

My post was directed more at the the poster that chose to hurl insults and mock -- treating OP like a 4 year old kid that needs smacked on the nose.
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You've been to nuthouse before and are talking about being restrained here, you should have stopped a long time ago. You are one of those people who should not take psychedelics but you are not going thru with the natural progression of quitting because you don't have to face the negatives consequences of your psychedelic use. Kind of a waste of Lucy to keep doing this




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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: coAsTal]
    #26377113 - 12/12/19 12:22 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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coAsTal said:
In no way directed at you brother-- you're an excellent and friendly poster-- you offer advice and insight.

My post was directed more at the the poster that chose to hurl insults and mock -- treating OP like a 4 year old kid that needs smacked on the nose.
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You've been to nuthouse before and are talking about being restrained here, you should have stopped a long time ago. You are one of those people who should not take psychedelics but you are not going thru with the natural progression of quitting because you don't have to face the negatives consequences of your psychedelic use. Kind of a waste of Lucy to keep doing this








Seriously..talk about talking down to someone..thanks for having my back, coastal


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #26377123 - 12/12/19 12:29 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 2
    #26377193 - 12/12/19 01:16 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Everyone takes a benzo at some point when the going gets rough, that's nothing to be ashamed or embarrassed about or anything. Hell, I used to combine benzos and mushrooms just for fun. There's no shame in taking a benzo.

I really enjoyed your trip report a lot. Best trip report I've seen posted in a while. It's just such an accurate and detailed higher dose report, and it's very realistic, not exaggerated or played up in any way. It reminds me of tripping that hard myself. It really takes me back to all those good times when things got waaay too intense. It can be scary at the time, but later you look back and think "Wow! That was so cool!"

Fucking good ass trip report bill.
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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: nooneman]
    #26377238 - 12/12/19 01:39 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I have one valium that I keep by me when tripping hard, just in case. Its nice to have it there if needed. I also brewed a good amount of valerian root into my last mushroom tea, which acts similarly to benzos... didn't seem to affect the strength of the trip at all that I could tell, but it did help with going into the come up


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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26380230 - 12/13/19 09:46 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah the crazy thing is even after I took the benzo, the day after, I still had tracers. I must have taken 400ug. The benzo didn't even kl the trip after it kicked in, I was still tripping it's just I had my mind back




bro i take tons of acid all the time and take like a bar sometimes even... if you taken enough good clean L it will just kill all the head trip really and you still trip balls. i took 5 hits after i had and a mg the other day and it was just smooth sailing... i dont think benzos can really kill good L... it tones it down for sure tho.


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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: SnowDaze] * 2
    #26380258 - 12/13/19 10:01 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Must ask, why in the world would you want to watch a South Park coming onto an acid trip? 

What trip is that? Into the world of few minds who give themselves to promoting whatever boxes thoughts they see to throw at you to aid their own bank account?

Free your mind the rest will follow.

No wonder you got stuck in body of dis.ease.

Some quote out of Psychedelic Experience: Manual to Psychedelic Trip based on Tibetan Book of the Dead by the Harvard Psychedelic Research Club. Roughly stated, “bodily sickness is the ego fighting to maintain a certain state to being.”  LSD flies within, the moment that light shines you can fly off into unchartered space. What to be there as flight pursues, God knows. Fly, fly away!

I haven’t ate any LSD for the longest time. The quickie market where used to get my acid no longer sales it. Bitch! Bum.r


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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #26380615 - 12/14/19 05:03 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Free your mind the rest will follow.







If that is quoted from Funkadlic I find it quite ironic because of what I experienced listening to one of their tracks peaking on ~300ug. In my experience, anything can make a trip go south no matter how experienced you are or what intentions you go in with.



My first experience with ~300ug was my 3rd or 4th time taking LSD. I was at an outdoor festival and got hold of 2 microdots. The man who sold me them told me don't take 2 they are very strong to which I replied 'don't worry I know what I'm doing' because I thought I was experienced. I sat down and watched some fire spinners as I started to come up. I experienced some extreme fear as it came on, my senses became overwhelmed with the smell of the burning fuel from fire spinners but I sat tight and not long after I began floating 100ft above myself looking down. I don't remember anything from the peak, only 'coming round' 4-5 hours later as the sun rose. It was an extremely positive experience although I felt my night had been wasted because I couldn't remember anything from the peak.






Then around 5 years later after hundreds of positive LSD trips (one over 1mg) I had been smoking stupid amounts of DMT in the weeks leading up to this event. I had been experiencing crazy amounts of synchronicity and contact from higher dimensions. I ran out of DMT but I still had some nice blotters dosed around 150-180ug. One afternoon I decided to eat 2 of them and timed it to watch the sunset as I was peaking. It was the best sunset I have ever seen, the entire sky was yellow red purple spanning from the horizon in the west all the way to the east covered in the most beautiful fractals. All the birds were singing with joy and I was crying with how amazing and perfect this moment was.

After it became dark I made my way home smoked some weed and put some music on. I was feeling sweaty and uncomfortable and could feel my mind running away from me so I put on the track 'Good thoughts, Bad thoughts - Funkadlic'. It was so incredibly amazing. All I could think was that this was too good for any human to ever hear this. This was a secret hidden from humans by higher powers. As the song reached it's peak and the 'voice of god' said 'fly children, play' something happened which I still don't understand.

I touched some bright white light, merged with it and was turned inside out. Suddenly I was back and all I could think was that I had seen something which no human should be allowed to see. This was a secret known by the intelligence agencies which had been kept hidden. All the synchronicity I had been experiencing was the intelligence agencies communicating with me. They had access to some kind of AI which we did not know about. Everything I looked at or heard confirmed this. They instructed me never to tell anyone about this experience or I would be killed. I was begging for my life, begging not to be killed and apologizing for what I had just seen.

It was a self-fulfilling truth which persisted, no amount of logical reasoning could convince me that what I had learned was untrue. Looking back now I wish I had a benzo at hand although I've never killed a trip with a benzo before and it may have been too late. I was no longer tripping I was watching a new reality and everything confirmed this delusion which took a firm root in my mind. I broke all contact with my friends and lived as a recluse for months, teaching myself software engineering to try and understand how the intelligence agencies were doing this. It's been about 3-4 years since this happened and only in recent times have I accepted that it most likely is not truth so I will not be killed for sharing it.


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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: Druids]
    #26381008 - 12/14/19 09:50 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Just saying the magic of an LSD Tripp’s far surpasses any song.  So why retard he self listening to music during LSD trips. It’s all inside!


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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: WhoManBeing] * 1
    #26381120 - 12/14/19 11:02 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

To say that music changes a trip is true-- but to imply that it is a detriment to it?

Hogwash.

Sorry not sorry.


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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: coAsTal] * 2
    #26381220 - 12/14/19 12:13 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

there is a very old tradition of using music as a key component during psychedelic sessions, among those who first used psychedelic plants for religious/healing/spiritual ceremony. This tradition exists for a reason.

I do think its important to choose the right kind of music.


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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: pixelpopper]
    #26382178 - 12/14/19 09:03 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Bill,
I think if you have the cognizance to take a pill to kill the trip then running out the house naked might not be the only other option.
I have been there in that very uncomfortable place where nothing makes sense and all the world is crashing down around you, all your shit both real and created by surroundings and current input is spinning your brain out of control.

And when this happens you have to realize it's the moment before a turning point, not "ego death" necessarily but the most zen moment you can ever hope to feel in your life on this earth. I've experienced this twice on lsd and once recently on mushrooms.

The more I was fighting the experience the less feeling of control I had, and fear was running the show. Fight or fight response wanted to rule my trip. I feared that I would lose my way and not return, hurt myself hurt others.

But by recognizing the fear as.my own construct I was able to let it slide away and upon doing so I was able to lose contact with those parts of my mind and find a place where I felt what I can only think was what Buddhists call nirvana.

I recommend you check out the Tibetan book of the dead, among other Buddhist teachings. They can help you realize what the constructs of your mind are doing in your life and help you master them in the face of an experience like you describe.

I'm not a practicing Buddhist but the teachings go a long way in living a better life. I consider myself lucky that I was interested in this at the same time that I started experimenting within.


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