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Re: All side pins, what next? [Re: vikingsc]
    #26388857 - 12/18/19 02:23 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Lol all those gnarly mutants and then a lone cluster of normals in the center.


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Re: All side pins, what next? [Re: vikingsc]
    #26388998 - 12/18/19 03:44 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe? I'm not sure the variety. I cloned some old random dried shrooms. I'm hoping to get a better idea when the top pins grow out more. Maybe someone will have an idea what variety they are. I'm wondering what they are myself.

There are actually several smaller clusters growing scattered over the top. Those mutants were smashed againt the wall of the tub for quite a while until I pulled the whole thing out. I assume that's why they grew that way. Would there be another reason? This is my first grow so I'm not sure at all. Very interesting leaning process.


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Re: All side pins, what next? [Re: Neoflux]
    #26389056 - 12/18/19 04:10 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

My moneys on PE based on the cap color and the overall shape of the side shrooms.

Were the dried ones you grew from absurdly strong?

Also how’d you clone them?? Soak them in water then put it on agar or grain?


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Re: All side pins, what next? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26389816 - 12/18/19 11:17 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I cut a piece out from the inside of the stipe and grew out on agar.

When I took the dried shrooms it was a strange trip and it started taking a dark turn. I ended up taking some molly to change it up and had a great night.

When I moved the cake out of the tub I knocked a few blobs off so I ate them. It was 20g wet and I thought it would be mild but it was actually quite a strong trip.


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Re: All side pins, what next? [Re: Neoflux]
    #26389824 - 12/18/19 11:30 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Goad to hear about the clone :thumbup:

I’m starting to think taking fresh is more potent, or at least hits you different.

I took 8g fresh once and tripped for like 4 hours, nothing crazy but way more than I anticipated for what the crew’s consensus seems to be mush is 90% would make my 8g only .8 :shrug:

And then another time I took a 3g (.3) fresh microdose and it had me feeling like it was not so micro, if ya know what I mean... :lol:

I wonder how often people are eating fresh vs dehydrated....


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Re: All side pins, what next? [Re: san pedro guy]
    #26389860 - 12/19/19 12:16 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I was excited as it was my first time eating fresh mushrooms. That was one thing I was looking forward to doing with the growing experience.

I was thinking the same thing wout dose, 20g=2g=euphoria maybe some visuals. Instead it was a full trip on the edging out of ego into infinity.

Maybe fresh is stronger

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Re: All side pins, what next? [Re: san pedro guy]
    #26389914 - 12/19/19 01:41 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Where did you get your info?

From my sources and experience. Yes the mushrooms wet is 90% water. So to get a equivalent to dry. You'll divide by 10 THEN add half the weight.
So

30g ÷ 10 = 3g + (half the weight) 1.5g* = 4.5g

So 30g dry is equivalent to 4.5g dry.


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Re: All side pins, what next? [Re: BlueTryptoYoshi]
    #26389927 - 12/19/19 01:59 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

if the mushroom is 90% water then 10% of 30 grams is 3 grams.

Why are you adding half the weight? That would mean the mushroom is 85% water....


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Re: All side pins, what next? [Re: san pedro guy]
    #26390445 - 12/19/19 10:32 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah that half the weight thing makes no sense.

Two grams is just mild euphoria for you??? That’s decent low midrange dose for most people I know.


From what I’ve read fresh shrooms will hit you faster and be slightly stronger cuz of the small amounts of psilocin in there that would be destroyed during drying.


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Re: All side pins, what next? [Re: san pedro guy]
    #26390453 - 12/19/19 10:38 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It's an equivalent equation.

Do 85% in your head and let me know how quick that goes.
Also, NO they're not 85% water. They're 92%
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You're not taking in account for the psylicybin that evaporats when dehydrating.

I'm not making this shit up lol


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Re: All side pins, what next? [Re: BlueTryptoYoshi]
    #26390484 - 12/19/19 10:57 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I believe you believe that.


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Re: All side pins, what next? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26390610 - 12/19/19 12:02 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I used to be in the habit of anytime I was harvesting - I would just eat any pins or aborts and not even think about it. Rather than dehydrating them. This lead to several 'surprise' trips. Days when you have a few monotubs to harvest and suddenly you're full on tripping and not expecting it. If definitely doesn't take much if those fresh mushrooms are all pins.


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Re: All side pins, what next? [Re: vikingsc]
    #26390645 - 12/19/19 12:25 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I used to be in the habit of anytime I was harvesting - I would just eat any pins or aborts and not even think about it. Rather than dehydrating them. This lead to several 'surprise' trips. Days when you have a few monotubs to harvest and suddenly you're full on tripping and not expecting it. If definitely doesn't take much if those fresh mushrooms are all pins.





Ive done that once before and wound up in bed staring at the wall for 2 hours !!! LOL like 10 tiny less than one inch shroomies.

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Re: All side pins, what next? [Re: YogiBear]
    #26390659 - 12/19/19 12:30 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Aborts are that strong?? Ten couldn’t be more than like half a gram right? I have a bag full they usually fall to the bottom of the dehydrator so once a bunch build up I’ll pour them out. Haven’t tried any though.


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Re: All side pins, what next? [Re: Neoflux] * 1
    #26390802 - 12/19/19 02:23 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I cut a piece out from the inside of the stipe and grew out on agar.

When I took the dried shrooms it was a strange trip and it started taking a dark turn. I ended up taking some molly to change it up and had a great night.

When I moved the cake out of the tub I knocked a few blobs off so I ate them. It was 20g wet and I thought it would be mild but it was actually quite a strong trip.




If the trip goes dark then the problem is in your head not within the musbroom...


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Re: All side pins, what next? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26390814 - 12/19/19 02:32 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Aborts are that strong?? Ten couldn’t be more than like half a gram right? I have a bag full they usually fall to the bottom of the dehydrator so once a bunch build up I’ll pour them out. Haven’t tried any though.




The last time I tripped was 7.5gs of aborts... I dont have any recent experiences with that amount to compare it to but it seemed about the same to me... or double the strength of the 3.5 g dose I took the week before of the mature mushrooms out of the same tub:shrug:


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Re: All side pins, what next? [Re: BlueTryptoYoshi]
    #26390830 - 12/19/19 02:48 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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It's an equivalent equation.

Do 85% in your head and let me know how quick that goes.
Also, NO they're not 85% water. They're 92%
Also!

You're not taking in account for the psylicybin that evaporats when dehydrating.

I'm not making this shit up lol




Wut? Lol

Ok dude all mushrooms differ in water content but the general number that most go off of on here is 90% water by weight. It may very well be a little more or less but that's a general figure and it's a pretty good one

Psilocin does not just magically evaporate into the air either but it does degrade very easily but either way why would that have anything to do with water weight? Are you saying that some of the weight that you loose from them dehydrating is from the psilocin "evaporating" lmao

I dont think so.

90% water weight is a good golden standard....d


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Re: All side pins, what next? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26392081 - 12/20/19 08:16 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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If the trip goes dark then the problem is in your head not within the musbroom...




For sure. I don't know why I slipped into that darkness that night but it's definitely my head. I've never had a dark trip on molly though. I'm not sure of it's possible. I ended up having a great night after that.  :rockon:


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Re: All side pins, what next? [Re: Neoflux]
    #26392660 - 12/20/19 03:41 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Things are looking good I think. I'm getting a good flush on the top now. Are we thinking PE still?

There is some blueing on a couple caps. Is this normal? I've seen some things about blueing when the cap is about to break away from the stipe.

I just want to make sure it's not due to some poor conditions like too much water on the cap or something.

It's in a greenhouse with a humidifier pumping in and a fan blowing air out/sucking air in top to bottom. Thoughts?



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Re: All side pins, what next? [Re: Neoflux]
    #26392934 - 12/20/19 06:43 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Nice cluster


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