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Tweeq
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Morel Guy]
#26381055 - 12/14/19 10:19 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's the moment when everything started going south. I've lived here in NL all my life and I can't help but see the connection very clearly. We've been tricked into the 'current state of affairs' starting 2001
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Tweeq]
#26381062 - 12/14/19 10:21 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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There seems to be some sort of far right agenda. I agree that they made a lot of changes over a lot of years. That 2001 was a more overt system of abusive change.
There's been a number of changes prior. Who all the masterminds are, I dunno. Probably American Right Wing Think Tanks.
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Morel Guy] 1
#26381079 - 12/14/19 10:33 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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We're not supposed to know who the masterminds are I guess..
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Tweeq]
#26381085 - 12/14/19 10:36 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Probably Right Wing Think Tanks. They are private groups, funded by private donors. They have a lot of political pull and do a lot of manipulative policy analytics.
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Asante]
#26381151 - 12/14/19 11:24 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Asante said: They are eroding the cannabis tolerance policy They are eroding the sale of shrooms They are raping the concept of universal health care They refuse to modernize the racial stereotype of Black Pete They are working to illegalize the New Years fireworks tradition We are getting warnings that national policies violate refugee human rights We mass-import chemical waste, mix it with fuel oil & fuel ships with it. We're a corporate tax haven and a resident's taxation hell. Tourists start avoiding Amsterdam cause the fun has died there.
What. The. Fuck.
Personally my main blame is that the average age in my cuntry is as high as 46. Its become a country of OLD PEOPLE, and this in the sense of Get Off My Lawn old and not as in community elder wisdom.
The tolerance for things young and young-minded people appreciate is dying. The endgame of greed at the expense of everyone else is taking over.
Its truly disgusting.
I've felt this exact way about my own country. Remember though to your spirit there's no concept of having a problem.
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: yeah]
#26381209 - 12/14/19 12:04 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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'tis the way of the world it seems. Given enough time and money and progress, this is where we end up.
Stages of empires, man.
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26381222 - 12/14/19 12:15 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Holland is also very expensive.
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Morel Guy] 3
#26381225 - 12/14/19 12:16 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Morel Guy said: Probably Right Wing Think Tanks. They are private groups, funded by private donors. They have a lot of political pull and do a lot of manipulative policy analytics.
Yeah it’s got to be all those right folk. If they could just listen to all the left folk we would get this place in shape..
I sure am glad life only offers two avenues of thought, otherwise stuff would get tough to think.. At least we have that going for us.
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Morel Guy] 1
#26381230 - 12/14/19 12:21 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Morel Guy said: Holland is also very expensive.
No more so than any Westernised country. None of them vary by a significant degree. You need to travel to the third world to see what 'cheap' as compared to 'expensive' really is.
You can live like a king for $10/day if you know where to go in this world.
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26381240 - 12/14/19 12:30 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Aussieland beats the US on price. You can’t really just judge them flat across the board though, it’s a little more nuanced than that..
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Amanita86]
#26381247 - 12/14/19 12:33 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've lived in both places mate. Yeah, it costs a few extra cents for bread milk and eggs in Australia, and a few extra bucks for anything that's imported. It's really a very, very small difference though, when one has experienced what it is to suddenly find everything is 1/10th of the price or less in other countries.
No comparison at all.
If there's a truly expensive westernised country out there, look no further than Switzerland.
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 1
#26381252 - 12/14/19 12:36 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dubai is crazy like that. Go from the most expensive malls to the India Quarter and suddenly you can buy diner for $2
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26381269 - 12/14/19 12:47 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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From the bit I’ve looked into it and talked with people Aussieland tends to be about 50% more in cost, but income is more too so we need to come up with a scale. Factor in rarity of ‘product’ too, something may be 2 cents somewhere but if the place is still in the stone age, you know what I’m saying?
I’ve never been to Switzerland but from what I’ve heard it’s the place to be. I see it ranked in with the best places on earth to live.
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Asante]
#26381270 - 12/14/19 12:49 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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That sucks, but it'll swing back the other direction some day. It sucks that you have to watch your country go through something like that though.
The funny thing about the amsterdam tourists is that a lot of tourists used to go to amsterdam specifically for the "cafes" that they're now banned from, so surprise surprise tourism to amsterdam falls. Which is too bad because Holland has tons of awesome museums, parks, art, architecture, etc. But I feel like this was kinda the plan all along: make the cafes unpopular and then shut them down.
Politics goes back and forth like a pendulum, and in time it'll all come around again.
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: nooneman]
#26381289 - 12/14/19 01:00 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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"tourism to amsterdam falls." Ah good. So when do you predict that will happen? Cause over the past decade it's been pretty much a fairly linear growth.
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: koraks]
#26381299 - 12/14/19 01:05 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well I was just going by what Asante said. I wouldn't really know myself. He was the one who said it was falling.
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Amanita86]
#26381342 - 12/14/19 01:32 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: From the bit I’ve looked into it and talked with people Aussieland tends to be about 50% more in cost
LOL I've got no idea who you've been talking to but that's bloody hogwash:
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Australia currently has the 12th highest cost of living in the world, with the USA and UK well behind at 21 and 23rd place respectively. The overall cost of living in Australia is 9% higher than the USA, but 10% cheaper than London. ...
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26381385 - 12/14/19 01:59 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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This infosite from the municipality of Amsterdam says tourism in Amsterdam is booming like never before: https://data.amsterdam.nl/artikelen/artikel/toerisme-in-amsterdam/5df34c3d-06be-40ca-ac8f-b0f8c05c2499/
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26381574 - 12/14/19 03:50 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said:
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Morel Guy said: Holland is also very expensive.
No more so than any Westernised country. None of them vary by a significant degree. You need to travel to the third world to see what 'cheap' as compared to 'expensive' really is.
You can live like a king for $10/day if you know where to go in this world.
They say poor 3rd world people live n that or less. But I don't think they account housing cost into that.
I live on about $50 a day for everything. Which is barely above poverty.
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Morel Guy]
#26381812 - 12/14/19 05:49 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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$33.26/day is the poverty line here. $1.90 in the poorest countries.
Almost half the humans in the world survive on less than $5.50/day.
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