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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26381823 - 12/14/19 05:56 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well my housing is over 60% and almost 70% of my "income". Plus I habe a dog who is about $100 a month roughly average. No car, gotta walk or get a ride.
My case is unsual though.
My housing situation is good. Things are fairly stable and stability goes a long way, no matter the lifestyle. The Republicans wpuld like to fuck that up, to save a fraction of a penny over my lifetime.
I had a friend once that pushed me off his porch. He got fired for failing a piss test. He was upset not realizing my challanges, only thinking of his.
Some years ago I Figured a worker making 100k a year pays me a fraction of a penny over my life if they work and make that their whole career. They pay more tax buying tpilet paper or gas than they pay me.
Truth is there are far more old people that are living longer. Disability is very strict and the Republicans are delusional.
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Morel Guy]
#26381872 - 12/14/19 06:24 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just move to Germany Asante.
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Asante]
#26382029 - 12/14/19 08:04 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Asante said: Actually Santa Claus is derivative of Sinterklaas and it was considered inappropriate to use the Black Pete figure so they went with Elves.
Well that sucks
was somehow under the impression that the Santa figure was more like in the Discworld series where ancient rituals of sacrificing a boar on the solstice eventually compounded into ideas of a big fat "Hogfather" who delivers presents around the solstice
you mean to tell me that Santa's origination is in the slave trade rather than an adaptation of Yule celebrations?
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Tantrika]
#26382037 - 12/14/19 08:08 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I heard santa was a muscaria inspired story.
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Tweeq
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Morel Guy]
#26382495 - 12/15/19 12:52 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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There is no real connection between slave trade and Sinterklaas. That was made up by the ppl who set to destroy our national traditions. Black Pete is black from entrring the houses through the chimney to leave presents for the kids.
Him having a black face was apparently too much to handle for the ultrasensitive so they made it a racial thing. Not hindered by any actual knowledge on the subject the international community picked this to make our annual children's party into some depicable slave thing and making the Dutch look like a bunch of racist fucks.
'They' go out of their way to kill national identities everywhere in the EU. This is how they did it in NL. We can't have a national identity. That would be racist I guess.. Sad
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Asante]
#26382536 - 12/15/19 01:58 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Asante said:
Fireworks are a discharge of pent up energies, both on the chemical level and on a societyal level. Prohibit fireworks and society will become more of a powder keg because we are no longer setting it off anymore.
I'm religious about being pro-fireworks, From the clap of hands to the Big Bang, God is a Pyrotechnician and wants us to rejoice in the cosmic fireworks and actively, alchemistically, take part in them.
Pointless to argue this with me
How can you promote the use of fireworks, while you know a large portion of the country is against it, including most dog-owners and people with PTSD? People who suffer from fireworks every year, people that even have to flee the country because of it?
Greets Hank
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Tweeq]
#26382578 - 12/15/19 03:01 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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No, Pete was black because he was meant to be a Moor. That whole 'chimney-ash' workaround didn't come until far later, after people started saying 'this is definitely racist'
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: tomnl]
#26382580 - 12/15/19 03:04 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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tomnl said:
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Asante said:
Fireworks are a discharge of pent up energies, both on the chemical level and on a societyal level. Prohibit fireworks and society will become more of a powder keg because we are no longer setting it off anymore.
I'm religious about being pro-fireworks, From the clap of hands to the Big Bang, God is a Pyrotechnician and wants us to rejoice in the cosmic fireworks and actively, alchemistically, take part in them.
Pointless to argue this with me
How can you promote the use of fireworks, while you know a large portion of the country is against it, including most dog-owners and people with PTSD? People who suffer from fireworks every year, people that even have to flee the country because of it?
Greets Hank
As predictably non-sensical as Asante's explanation for loving fireworks is, just out of curiousity I would like to hear your tales of people 'fleeing the country' because of fireworks.
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Near Dylan]
#26382582 - 12/15/19 03:06 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thats not true at all. Black Pete originates in far older Pagan traditions
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Near Dylan]
#26382589 - 12/15/19 03:20 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Near Dylan said: No, Pete was black because he was meant to be a Moor. That whole 'chimney-ash' workaround didn't come until far later, after people started saying 'this is definitely racist'
Moors are not black like Pete is. Not even close. Your version of the story is as much a myth as mine is and all of the national tradition of Sinterklaas is. It's a myth for children to believe in. Teach them some stuff and later on about giving them presents, accompanied by a little poem that was usually also meant to be personal and educational. Kids don't go likr hmm, maybe this coulf be interpreted as racist. I'll distance myself from it. Instead they'll go Yay! A present!
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Near Dylan]
#26382592 - 12/15/19 03:26 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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As predictably non-sensical as Asante's explanation for loving fireworks is, just out of curiousity I would like to hear your tales of people 'fleeing the country' because of fireworks.
I dont have to provide proofs. Tell me your tales of children ´not being able to celebrate st. nicolas day, because its being too racist´
Greets Hank
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: tomnl]
#26382595 - 12/15/19 03:30 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Even on the Shroomery, fireworks haters and black pete apologists everywhere 
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Tweeq
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Asante]
#26382597 - 12/15/19 03:33 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Says the guy who complains Dutch tolerance is going down the drain..
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Tweeq]
#26382600 - 12/15/19 03:35 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dutch Tolerance never was Dutch Acceptance.
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Asante]
#26382602 - 12/15/19 03:36 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Acceptance of what? Fireworks ?
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Tweeq]
#26382604 - 12/15/19 03:40 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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We used to accept fireworks, we no longer tolerate it.
Gedoogbeleid is on its way out.
We seek more and more the side of oppression, restriction.
Climate is becoming more hostile towards foreigners too.
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Asante]
#26382610 - 12/15/19 03:50 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Asante said: We used to accept fireworks, we no longer tolerate it.
Gedoogbeleid is on its way out.
We seek more and more the side of oppression, restriction.
Climate is becoming more hostile towards foreigners too.
Sure I see those things happening too. We can at least agree on that. Doubt if it's a Dutch only thing though. We're being Europanized / Americanized -> globalized..
National identity is being banned, as is manhood, around the western world
Alas. At least we still have the photos
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Tweeq] 2
#26382613 - 12/15/19 03:51 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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The pagan tradition it stems from is obviously much different than the tradition it developed into, as with most modern traditions. The modern incantation started as a black moor from Spain. Yes berbers are typically arab not black, but native Magherebine Berbers are black and were typically seen on the arab slave market. Read a darn book. Or literally just look it up, dude, lol
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Near Dylan]
#26382617 - 12/15/19 03:58 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Near Dylan said: The pagan tradition it stems from is obviously much different than the tradition it developed into, as with most modern traditions. The modern incantation started as a black moor from Spain. Yes berbers are typically arab not black, but native Magherebine Berbers are black and were typically seen on the arab slave market. Read a darn book. Or literally just look it up, dude, lol
I have read the same books, probably more than most. Who says I dunno? My point is it's been the chimney myth throughout our lifetimes so what are we talking about? The tradition has evoluated over time as traditions do. Even if at some point in history the story was not politically correct in the eyes of today's ppl.
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Re: Holland is starting to become a Cuntry. [Re: Tweeq]
#26382619 - 12/15/19 04:03 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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It is silly and childish to continue a tradition of black face and swap it up with "chimney ash". But I do think that it's cute that in the same post you claim to know more about it than most people, you back down from your point that it was always chimney ash and never black face and change your argument.
Suit yourself but I wouldnt bring my kid up with black face traditions that are an unfortunate remnant from the colonial era that everyone seems to be able to get past except for some Dutch people, for some reason. But im sure youre on the right side of history and people will be celebrating such a lighthearted, tolerant tradition till the end of time.
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