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Offlineyeah
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Hot take...? * 1
    #26380463 - 12/14/19 01:22 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Disclaimer: this isn't necessarily my precise opinion.



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Re: Hot take...? [Re: yeah] * 2
    #26380524 - 12/14/19 02:51 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

addition to the hot take:
social pressures to get married also weigh in accelerating the process once couples have moved in together

with regards to self-worth and sex, there is also a sentiment within pick up culture that the game is to have as much sex as possible
so social success is frequently measured as a function of sexual activity -- with the "worst case" being acting so shameful that your social cohorts assert you need to get laid

it is difficult to focus on spiritual pursuits when people are constantly trying to casually bring you down in mundane manners
but it's also not typically a real good plan to use the sort of above language in spiritual or religious communities
so think there are issues of tension encountered when the social meets the spiritual in the above case


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Re: Hot take...? [Re: yeah]
    #26380529 - 12/14/19 02:59 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Great thoughts Tantrika.

Confused on the direction of this thread yeah. Where is it going exactly? Is this to discuss men's hook-up culture and the self-image of men in terms of sexual activity?

Pretty confused to be honest....


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Re: Hot take...? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26380530 - 12/14/19 03:07 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

For anyone wanting to see a perfect example of males basing their entire self-worth on their sexual conquests/ability to game females, simply go to r/TheRedPill.


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Re: Hot take...? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26381035 - 12/14/19 10:07 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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LogicaL Chaos said:
Great thoughts Tantrika.

Confused on the direction of this thread yeah. Where is it going exactly? Is this to discuss men's hook-up culture and the self-image of men in terms of sexual activity?

Pretty confused to be honest....





It's a commonly held sentiment that women hold more power than men in dating. The post I shared was just a take on how as men we can improve ourselves and bring women up with us.


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Re: Hot take...? [Re: yeah]
    #26381068 - 12/14/19 10:24 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

only when its good to be then theres going to be another right fitty


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Re: Hot take...? [Re: yeah] * 1
    #26381242 - 12/14/19 12:30 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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yeah said:
It's a commonly held sentiment that women hold more power than men in dating.



I think it's more an objective truth than a sentiment. See how bright and ornamental the males in these species of birds have become?



That's because the females choose, and are picky, and over millennia, the males keep developing the trait the females are most partial to.

Such as it is in our species. Ultimately, the female chooses who to mate with. Of course she has more power. Females being picky is what led us to develop our equivalent of those feathers; our brains.

The author of what you shared just sounds like a butthurt incel, to me. If he was getting loads of sexual offers he wouldn't be sitting around spouting crap like that.


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Re: Hot take...? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 3
    #26381290 - 12/14/19 01:00 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Jokeshopbeard said:

The author of what you shared just sounds like a butthurt incel, to me. If he was getting loads of sexual offers he wouldn't be sitting around spouting crap like that.




Agreed in general, but I’ll make a minor distinction.  The author isn’t an incel, but rather an MGTOW’er/Red Piller.  Incels take the black pill, as I understand it.  There is a lot of overlap in ideology between these groups though.

The “hot take” in question actually isn’t a bad idea on the surfac: focus on yourself and your own life before getting into a serious relationship.  But the motivation behind it seems to be pretty red-pilled: reject women en masse, to the point that they’re desperate to prove their value to men.  And at the core of it, it feels like the author is saying “if women can’t use their feminine wiles to be selective anymore, maybe I’ll have a chance to sleep with a hot one”.  That’s how I’m reading it anyway, when you contextualize it with its source (4chan).

Not the first time I’ve seen yeah flirting with these ideologies, which is a shame because he actually seems like a pretty cool guy.  I get that dating is probably really tough these days, and that it can be extremely frustrating, but you don’t have to turn to these radical belief systems to explain it or rationalize your frustration.  All these redpillers and black pilled incels are just toxic af and are really only hurting themselves in the long run.  The black pill is a self-fulfilling prophecy.  Do as the hot take suggests: work on yourself, do what you care about, but don’t do it as a way to withhold from or punish women.  Do it just because you love yourself, and in time you will find someone to share your self love with.


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Re: Hot take...? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #26381360 - 12/14/19 01:40 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Those birds just havent clued in yet that if they would stop trying so desperately hard and just follow their interests and evolve a little bit the girl bird will start trying to get their attention.


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Re: Hot take...? [Re: mt cleverest]
    #26381370 - 12/14/19 01:49 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

dont be a bird brain. desperation is indicator of inferiority and whoever cares less will always have the more power.


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Re: Hot take...? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26381951 - 12/14/19 07:16 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Jokeshopbeard said:
Quote:

yeah said:
It's a commonly held sentiment that women hold more power than men in dating.



I think it's more an objective truth than a sentiment. See how bright and ornamental the males in these species of birds have become?



That's because the females choose, and are picky, and over millennia, the males keep developing the trait the females are most partial to.
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The smart species of birds choose their mate based on the quality of nest it builds rather than how fancy it looks


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Re: Hot take...? [Re: Burke Dennings] * 1
    #26381952 - 12/14/19 07:18 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Burke Dennings said:
Quote:

Jokeshopbeard said:

The author of what you shared just sounds like a butthurt incel, to me. If he was getting loads of sexual offers he wouldn't be sitting around spouting crap like that.




Agreed in general, but I’ll make a minor distinction.  The author isn’t an incel, but rather an MGTOW’er/Red Piller.  Incels take the black pill, as I understand it.  There is a lot of overlap in ideology between these groups though.

The “hot take” in question actually isn’t a bad idea on the surfac: focus on yourself and your own life before getting into a serious relationship.  But the motivation behind it seems to be pretty red-pilled: reject women en masse, to the point that they’re desperate to prove their value to men.  And at the core of it, it feels like the author is saying “if women can’t use their feminine wiles to be selective anymore, maybe I’ll have a chance to sleep with a hot one”.  That’s how I’m reading it anyway, when you contextualize it with its source (4chan).

Not the first time I’ve seen yeah flirting with these ideologies, which is a shame because he actually seems like a pretty cool guy.  I get that dating is probably really tough these days, and that it can be extremely frustrating, but you don’t have to turn to these radical belief systems to explain it or rationalize your frustration.  All these redpillers and black pilled incels are just toxic af and are really only hurting themselves in the long run.  The black pill is a self-fulfilling prophecy.  Do as the hot take suggests: work on yourself, do what you care about, but don’t do it as a way to withhold from or punish women.  Do it just because you love yourself, and in time you will find someone to share your self love with.




yeah the advice is good
unfortunately, most will read the advice
then focus all their actual energy on checking whether they've focused on themselves enough to attract attention for it


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Re: Hot take...? [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #26382173 - 12/14/19 09:03 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

lol mate I'm not getting into any ideology I put a disclaimer and shit bro come on

since it's relevant now the OP resonates with me because I've been successful as of late with redirecting the energy I put towards getting sex onto other things. And it's not like I've given up on love, it's actually the opposite. I've found more faith that things will work out for me as far as romance goes without me having to get on an app and swipe every day.


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Re: Hot take...? [Re: yeah]
    #26382196 - 12/14/19 09:10 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

If I was single I would never use online stuffs to date :shrug: real social interactions is what humans are built for. If everyone just talked online they wouldn't know fuck all what to do in person.


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