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Re: Are wet mushrooms stronger than dry? [Re: Rangiku]
    #26382364 - 12/14/19 10:29 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I am interested in eating wet mushrooms as a comparison of experience/potency, but it seems like a lot to eat if they are like 10x the weight due to water. Advice on getting that much mass of mushrooms down? Or just suck it up and take your medicine? :grin:


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Re: Are wet mushrooms stronger than dry? [Re: dirtydangus]
    #26382387 - 12/14/19 10:50 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Fresh feels more potent, and more “medicinal” to me. I loved microdosing with a fresh abort or two back when I had access to them.


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Re: Are wet mushrooms stronger than dry? [Re: dirtydangus]
    #26382528 - 12/15/19 01:48 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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dirtydangus said:
I am interested in eating wet mushrooms as a comparison of experience/potency, but it seems like a lot to eat if they are like 10x the weight due to water. Advice on getting that much mass of mushrooms down? Or just suck it up and take your medicine? :grin:




I never eat shrooms so I cannot advise you on how you eat that many. From posts on here, you’re looking at about 30 minutes to munch through the amount. I always make a Tea:

Soak the broken up dried shrooms with enough lemon to soak. Pour over boiling water. Put on heat and simmer gentlymform20 minutes. Strain the the tea through a dish cloth. Allow to cool and drink. Minimises nausea, faster come up and come down.

Good luck
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Re: Are wet mushrooms stronger than dry? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26383354 - 12/15/19 01:30 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Fresh mushrooms do feel more potent to me...I also find that they come on quicker, they're more visual, all around there is just a certain "fresh"/clean/clear and super euphoric quality about the trip that isn't there after they've been dried.

Like others have mentioned...this is likely because fresh mushrooms have a higher concentration of psilocin compared to dried.






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I am interested in eating wet mushrooms as a comparison of experience/potency, but it seems like a lot to eat if they are like 10x the weight due to water. Advice on getting that much mass of mushrooms down?...





When they're fresh you're not eating anymore mushrooms than you would when they're dry. They just weigh more because of the water content...The over all weight of the dose is the only difference, and that weight is coming from the water content of the muhsrooms. When you eat mushrooms fresh you're not eating any more than you normally would, you're just consuming more water than you normally would since they're not dry.


Example...I have 10g of fresh mushrooms in my fridge right now, there are 5 small to medium size mushrooms that make up that 10g. When I dry them out, that 10g becomes about 1g, but the amount of mushrooms that I have to eat hasn't changed at all, there are still only 5 small to medium size mushrooms.

Or say one has 30g of fresh mushrooms....and that 30g is composed of 3 large mushrooms...When dried, that 30g becomes about 3g, but there is still only 3 large mushrooms.

So when dosing fresh mushrooms...you're not actually consuming a larger amount/mass of mushrooms, you're just consuming a larger amount of water.





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I never eat shrooms so I cannot advise you on how you eat that many. From posts on here, you’re looking at about 30 minutes to munch through the amount. I always make a Tea:






30 minutes to eat a dose!?

How big of a dose are you taking where it's going to take 30 minutes to eat through it!?

I can't imagine how big a dose would have to be if it's taking someone 30 minutes just to get it down.


And when it comes to fresh mushrooms specifically, they are super easy to chew up and eat compared to dried...I can eat down stupid amounts of fresh mushrooms within just a minute or two.






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Re: Are wet mushrooms stronger than dry? [Re: openmind]
    #26383373 - 12/15/19 01:46 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Lolwut just make a tea.. imagine taking 30min to do a line of blow:notamused:


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Re: Are wet mushrooms stronger than dry? [Re: openmind]
    #26383415 - 12/15/19 02:12 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

To be honest, I don’t know where I’ve got that from? Maybe thinking larger mounts, and thinking also dried.

Take care,
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Re: Are wet mushrooms stronger than dry? [Re: mushboy]
    #26383431 - 12/15/19 02:22 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I seen my boy chew up 14g dried all at once lol
It is fun to stagger your dosage; some of my best trips have been just munching on dried caps all day.


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Re: Are wet mushrooms stronger than dry? [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26383440 - 12/15/19 02:26 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I like blasting off so I do my shrooms like I do hard drugs.

All at once:rail2:


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Re: Are wet mushrooms stronger than dry? [Re: mushboy]
    #26383456 - 12/15/19 02:37 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Are wet mushrooms stronger than dry? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26873152 - 08/10/20 11:51 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I never use heat, even given the plethora of advice that says gentle heat doesn’t degrade the shrooms. So I always use a fan, directed to the side of the shrooms, to dry them gently over a four or five day period in the dark. I then transfer them to a tight sealed container with trays of silica gel underneath the shrooms, and a humidity meter. This brings the humidity down to about 10% at which point the shrooms are cracker dry. I then transfer them to sealed bags with silica gel packets, to the freezer. I find the potency does not reduce, even after 3 years in the freezer. I guess they’d stay strong longer, it’s just I only started growing three years ago,so have no other data!

Hope this helps,
DJ Ed




Can you explain what "sealed container" you are using? I a usual jar sufficient or do you need something else?


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Re: Are wet mushrooms stronger than dry? [Re: MuteUSO]
    #26884267 - 08/17/20 04:14 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

For me, dried put me in the mushroom headspace but the visuals were far more understated than fresh.


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Re: Are wet mushrooms stronger than dry? [Re: deathlyoctopusman]
    #26885261 - 08/17/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Im dying to try freash. I want to cultivate so bad.

Let me ask is the taste the same between wet and dry?


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Re: Are wet mushrooms stronger than dry? [Re: Cosmic Eye]
    #26885272 - 08/17/20 04:29 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Dry has much more intense taste, fresh ones are quite mild compared to them but still unpleasant.


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Re: Are wet mushrooms stronger than dry? [Re: MindMeower]
    #26885487 - 08/17/20 05:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

My first harvest I ate 45g wet and it was a very positive experience but I can't say whether it was due to my excitement or them being fresh.

  I had a bowl filled with 37g and later about an hour later I ate another 8g off the cakes.

The fresh ones taste like dirt and water. I could munch on them all day.

Dj I suggest trying them fresh, way different than your dry experience.






I was playing with them. This was part of my 8g.


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Re: Are wet mushrooms stronger than dry? [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26885496 - 08/17/20 06:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Took me about 5 minutes of furious chewing to eat them.


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Re: Are wet mushrooms stronger than dry? [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26885503 - 08/17/20 06:06 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

make a damn tea why eat them this isnt the eighties:oldman:

always make tea. always always always.


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Re: Are wet mushrooms stronger than dry? [Re: mushboy]
    #26885506 - 08/17/20 06:08 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Lol why? I know why for me personally but why do you only go for tea?


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    #26885516 - 08/17/20 06:13 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

extracts all the actives into the water that can be reduce into a manage amount. a single gulp of almost tasteless mushroom water. i dont have to consume gross ass mushroom matter. hits quicker. ime its more intense. doesnt give me the shits. doesnt upset the gut at all. i can eat a full meal after the peak and still be tripping balls.

in the last 3 to 4 years ive easily consumed at least 500 doses. probably more. ranging from .25g to multiple oz for large batches for storage. all tea. all awesome.


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Re: Are wet mushrooms stronger than dry? [Re: mushboy]
    #26885526 - 08/17/20 06:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Meh, Im not bothered by the taste nor do I experience stomach problems. And he'll yeah tea hits like a run away freight train at a carnival.

I have a hypothesis on the nausea. I wonder if being further removed in generations of indigenous people has an effect on nausea. I'm only a handful of generations removed my self.


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Re: Are wet mushrooms stronger than dry? [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #26885655 - 08/17/20 07:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I have heard the psilocin content of psilocybe cubensis is around .06% and psilocybin is .63%. If most of the psilocin is lost during drying, does this mean wet, fresh mushrooms are nearly double the strength per mushroom, ignoring the weight factor?




Your numbers are wrong somehow.  Fresh cubes contain roughly equal amounts of psilocin and psilocybin, but psilocin doesn't survive nearly as well in drying.  A strong tea (about half the weight of the fruits) with 2% citric acid will extract most all of the psilocin (as well as all of the psilocybin) and gives effect like eating them, only with vastly faster comeup and no nausea.

See this chart:


edit sorry old thread but this might help somebody :laugh2:


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