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Qeen Amanita
#26379168 - 12/13/19 12:29 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm gonna do my firs ever amanita tea. Planing about 4 grams dry amanita muscaria made tea with water on 70 celsius.

And Im scared.
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Re: Qeen Amanita [Re: Gele]
#26379234 - 12/13/19 01:02 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Do you have those cakes wrapped in burlap?
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Yes It was good casing
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Re: Qeen Amanita [Re: Gele]
#26379277 - 12/13/19 01:29 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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only 4 grams tho? thats like threshold levels.
Oral Amanita muscaria Dosages Light 1 - 5 g (1 medium cap) Common 5 - 10 g (1 - 3 medium caps) Strong 10 - 30 g (2 - 6 medium caps)
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Re: Qeen Amanita [Re: Gele]
#26379327 - 12/13/19 02:04 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Amanita86 said: Do you have those cakes wrapped in burlap?
Yes It was good casing 
That's a great idea. Is that your innovation? It's been years since I've been in cultivation forums.
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Psy Baba said: only 4 grams tho? thats like threshold levels.
Oral Amanita muscaria Dosages Light 1 - 5 g (1 medium cap) Common 5 - 10 g (1 - 3 medium caps) Strong 10 - 30 g (2 - 6 medium caps)
Hmm, still can make proper dosage, but scared from severe vomiting 10g shuld be ok ?
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Re: Qeen Amanita [Re: 1234go]
#26379357 - 12/13/19 02:21 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Amanita86 said: Do you have those cakes wrapped in burlap?
Yes It was good casing 
That's a great idea. Is that your innovation? It's been years since I've been in cultivation forums.
It was like closest fiber what I can find like coconuts fibers , so canabis fibers (if prepared like in burlap ) should be good substitute. Havent herd of it before, and still no one practice it. But it grow  This 'burlap' is widely used in my region for packing the tobaco in it .
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Re: Qeen Amanita [Re: Gele]
#26379401 - 12/13/19 02:46 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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take 10 grams at least
i feel like the only times ive felt uncomfortable with it was from tea
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i feel like the only times ive felt uncomfortable with it was from tea
10g - drinked ! 
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Re: Qeen Amanita [Re: Gele]
#26379457 - 12/13/19 03:11 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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p.s. this taste sooo goood
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Re: Qeen Amanita [Re: Gele]
#26379460 - 12/13/19 03:12 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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which eastern hemisphere boreal forest were they picked from?
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i have some now that i think about them
i like them in pasta
if theyre clean
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South europa / balkan / macedonia
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Re: Qeen Amanita [Re: Gele]
#26379531 - 12/13/19 03:41 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Anything happening yet?
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No, just little unnoticeable dizziness
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Re: Qeen Amanita [Re: Gele]
#26379577 - 12/13/19 03:59 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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You might start getting sleepy, they have a way of sedating me. Good for laying down and listening to music.
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Like stated above, take a minimum of 7-10 grams dry. Back in HS when first began venturing into mycology I would pick wild amanitas as they grew like crazy in that area. I would eat at-least a half oz with a few times over an ounce (dry).
They always gave me a very dreamy, sedated effect. Great for a good night sleep full of very lucid dreaming. Zero anxiety.
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Next time 20g
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Re: Qeen Amanita [Re: Gele]
#26379635 - 12/13/19 04:20 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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i swear tea kills it
eat them dry
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decarb ur shrooms first tho
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cause u need to decarb or you will be ingesting neurotoxin
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eat them dry
Once I eat them fresh , only one medium mushroom , and felt like too heavy and past to sleep. So I read for temperature preparations and here we go again with tea.
If eat them dry , shuld I drink my urine next morningg for trip ? (this is funy notice , not actual question)
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"decarb " mmmm , this is new to me
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cannabinated said: cause u need to decarb or you will be ingesting neurotoxin 
This, because people just going around willy nilly don't realize that the raw mushrooms CAUSES brain lesions.
They need dried in an oven at a specific temp to convert the toxin. There's a lot of bullshit information out there. You DO NOT WANT brain lesions.
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Re: Qeen Amanita [Re: Gele]
#26379747 - 12/13/19 04:53 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I ate 15g first go: Pretty sure they just make you feel drunk, nauseous, and fuzzy tho. Made me feel like the village sloppy drunkard. 0 insight, or vision aside from blurring/doubling
Maybe some people like that feeling.
Def eat, not tea, as suggested.
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you get something pleasant/insightful out of it?
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i actually figured out all of twin peaks because of it
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nvm that was another experience but I did have very neat visuals, dreams, and feelings
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i think if its not too hard to synthesize it should be a pharmaceutical
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Pretty much is with ambien
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its about the same activity of psilocybin i wish it was a synth street drug
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cannabinated said: cause u need to decarb or you will be ingesting neurotoxin 
This, because people just going around willy nilly don't realize that the raw mushrooms CAUSES brain lesions.
They need dried in an oven at a specific temp to convert the toxin. There's a lot of bullshit information out there. You DO NOT WANT brain lesions.
Fresh muscaria is no more dangerous to eat than dried and i actually prefer them fresh. Actually, i'd argue that fresh is safer as they come on quicker and one is able to gauge hir dosage easier. I've eaten them fresh many times(including directly in front ov members ov this website) and those with solid muscaria experience will stand by me on this. Brain lesions from fresh muscaria is bogus and in terms ov nausea, i have found that it's worse with dried(and that's not just me). Ginger tea helps with the nausea BTW. To a point that is; my last experience with dried was a huge spewfest despite my obligatory ginger/honey/colloidal gold tea.
Dosage advice is pointless for muscaria as it is intuitive. Different patches can vary quite a good bit in potency so one needs to develop a working relationship with the mushroom to develop the intuitive link. Vendoritas(my term for vendor bought muscaria) are going to be less potent than found muscaria as well, so keep that in mind. For perspective, my last experience was with 15.6g dried ov a VERY potent patch. I've never had vendoritas match that intensity, even with a whole ounce.
I have to keep this short and sloppy as i'm getting up early tomorrow. I'll leave off with another nugget ov muscaria wisdom: drinking urine is completely unnecessary.
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Re: Qeen Amanita [Re: lavod]
#26380347 - 12/13/19 11:33 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's not true
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diverting the true, it's new.
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Re: Qeen Amanita [Re: Fiery]
#26380354 - 12/13/19 11:44 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Because of this, ibotenic acid can be a powerful neurotoxin, and is employed as a "brain-lesioning agent" through cranial injections in scientific research.[2][3]
I read in a thread on the shroomery that the lesions make people see angels and demons forever. Don't know if that is true, but lesions don't sound fun.
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Morel Guy said: Because of this, ibotenic acid can be a powerful neurotoxin, and is employed as a "brain-lesioning agent" through cranial injections in scientific research.[2][3]
I read in a thread on the shroomery that the lesions make people see angels and demons forever. Don't know if that is true, but lesions don't sound fun.
It can't be true that such wounds can be unhealed.... Wounds are healed in time and great time makers adjust the spectrum.
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Re: Qeen Amanita [Re: Fiery]
#26380359 - 12/13/19 11:49 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lesions are nasty
The brain doesn't heal much at all. It adapts more than heals.
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The brain doesn't heal much at all. It adapts more than heals.
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Re: Qeen Amanita [Re: Fiery]
#26380364 - 12/13/19 11:56 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ya cryptic weird response dude.
Anything sane to add?
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Re: Qeen Amanita [Re: Fiery]
#26380386 - 12/14/19 12:13 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Morel Guy said: Lesions are nasty
The brain doesn't heal much at all. It adapts more than heals.
The system is broken,
no man stood up to it before.
All were cast aside.
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Anything sane to add?
I was talking about you
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Re: Qeen Amanita [Re: Fiery]
#26380401 - 12/14/19 12:32 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Still weird.
I've read some horror stories about muscaria. They grow around here, never wanted to touch those.
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you creep and crawl like you want to hear something out of me but I see you for who you are, and I know you see me.
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Re: Qeen Amanita [Re: Fiery] 1
#26380531 - 12/14/19 03:07 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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apparently it was only shown to cause lesions when injected into the brain
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Morel Guy said: Still weird.
I've read some horror stories about muscaria. They grow around here, never wanted to touch those.
If you never wanted to touch them, why do you feel obligated to tell people what is true about muscaria? You are right in that there is a lot ov BS out there about muscaria, but the biggest piece ov mythological shit is that fresh muscaria is more dangerous than dried. Maybe if you directly inject ibotenic acid into the brain you'll get lesions, but i do'nt see anyone doing that, right? What i have seen OTOH are people with actual extensive muscaria experience, like tweekingtwak and entropymancer on the shroomery, corroborate my testimony on the safety and relative superiority ov fresh muscaria. I understand and respect your desire to speak ov the subject for the posterity ov safety, but this is a case where the accepted truth is BS myth and one is better advised to heed to experiential wisdom.
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