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Mycetinis scorodonius on coir?
    #26378678 - 12/13/19 08:10 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Hey guys i recently found this culture for a "Garlic Scented Mushroom" I would like to give it a go, Anyone think coir is a possibility?


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Re: Mycetinis scorodonius on coir? [Re: bw86]
    #26380511 - 12/14/19 02:31 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Theres no species label?

I would probably try a wood based substrate first if its an edible.


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Re: Mycetinis scorodonius on coir? [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #26493378 - 02/19/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I just ordered this Mycetinis scorodonius culture. I plan to use woodchip spawn to coir bulk sub. Does that sound that a feasible plan?


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Re: Mycetinis scorodonius on coir? [Re: bw86]
    #27068793 - 12/02/20 06:39 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Just got around to playing with this culture.
Spawn jars reek like garlic, pretty intense.
Anyone think if I make liquid cultures. Strain and dehydrate it will work the way im imagining?


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Re: Mycetinis scorodonius on coir? [Re: bw86]
    #27069081 - 12/02/20 10:16 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Mycetinis scorodonius on coir? [Re: inski]
    #27069331 - 12/03/20 05:45 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

thanks for the link

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Sporulator said:
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myceliups said:
Thanks. Have you tried growing it in other
methods? Like a tray or such. Do you think
they could grow in logs in a way like shiitake?




      No, but I think it's possible to grow it in trays.

      Logs probably will not work. This mushroom prefers a substrate consisting of rotten woody debris like little twigs, wood fibers and leaves.





looks like i'm still going to go my original rout of thought and do wood chip spawn to coir.
If anyone wants to play PM me and we can work something out for a culture.


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Re: Mycetinis scorodonius on coir? [Re: bw86]
    #27080187 - 12/09/20 10:04 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I did a G2G today and my house smells like someone mowed over an onion patch.


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Re: Mycetinis scorodonius on coir? [Re: bw86]
    #27102294 - 12/22/20 10:26 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

First test boxes made yesterday. Such an offensive smell when you break up a 4# grain bag.
Its just WBS to coir.


If these dont pin i'll try wood chip spawn to coir next. I'm really trying to avoid pasteurizing a substrate :rolleyes:


48 hour edit
So its moving slower than I would have liked but its only been 48 hours. So i would say its moving right along.
The Mycetinis scorodonius is on top. The bottom is a cubensis tub done at the same time for comparison.


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Re: Mycetinis scorodonius on coir? [Re: bw86]
    #27107431 - 12/25/20 01:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Looking good for two days I'd say. Hopefully it'll work out. Wouldn't it be great to just spawn grains to coir and grow it in an unmodified bin. How will you try fruiting it?


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Re: Mycetinis scorodonius on coir? [Re: Poison Drink]
    #27124563 - 01/03/21 07:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

:blush:
Ashamed to admit my spawn was not clean. My sub contaminated after a few day. I was trying to cut corners by assuming the LC was clean. I thought the intense onion smell of the grain spawn was a good indicator of healthy myc. I already put to agar a couple of weeks ago so i will go from agar to grain again this week.
I still have my fingers crossed that grain to coir will do the job. Just incase I also plan on using coir as a substrate and oak pellets as spawn.
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Re: Mycetinis scorodonius on coir? [Re: bw86]
    #27179416 - 01/31/21 01:10 PM (3 years, 16 days ago)

Did you make any progress with these? I just inoculated some jars of rye, and some jars of rye, chopped straw and a bit of worm castings as an experiment, to see if it'll like this. I thought I'd share a picture of the Mycetinis scorodonius culture on agar for future reference.



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Re: Mycetinis scorodonius on coir? [Re: Poison Drink]
    #27179692 - 01/31/21 04:59 PM (3 years, 15 days ago)

Nah i have so many jars sitting there colonized. All from the original LC that i assuming is dirty. Two are trying to form fruits. I made a few pints from t2 transfers and two of the resulting jars look like there is two types of mycelium in them. I'm gonna spawn the one good looking jar to a 3 quart oak bag this week. Then spawn that to coir.
I am also going to make some new pints from more t2 wedges.


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Re: Mycetinis scorodonius on coir? [Re: bw86]
    #27238617 - 03/05/21 11:41 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

I just spawned some of the fully colonized jars to pasteurized straw and worm castings. The mycelium does have a garlic-like odor, but it's also quite a chemical and sickening smell. It seems to have penetrated into the pores of my skin, because I can still smell it a few hours after making the bin (without gloves). I hope the mushrooms won't smell or taste the same way.. :puke:

Below is a picture of about two weeks ago. The jar contains rye, straw and worm castings to get the mycelium used to this substrate.



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Re: Mycetinis scorodonius on coir? [Re: Poison Drink]
    #27238648 - 03/05/21 12:07 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Nice, i have been making spawn. Just haven't had any success going from grain to coir.
I have some cased oak.I will do colonized oak spawned to coir in the near future.
It sure is a fucking potent smell. I guess it does kinda smell like the stevia of garlics.I can relate to that.


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Re: Mycetinis scorodonius on coir? [Re: bw86]
    #27238716 - 03/05/21 12:58 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Interesting. Did you just case the oak substrate, awaiting for it to fruit? Were the pellets pasteurized, and did you supplement them or mix in anything else? I have some oak pellets laying around as well, and I still have two fully colonized jars left over to experiment with..


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Re: Mycetinis scorodonius on coir? [Re: Poison Drink]
    #27239151 - 03/05/21 05:58 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

It was just cassed after it colonized. Oak pellets were not supplemented, they were sterilized in a grain bag run. It was knocked up with a 1:1 grain ratio though.


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Re: Mycetinis scorodonius on coir? [Re: bw86]
    #27253754 - 03/15/21 10:14 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

So the bin has been fully colonized for a few days. The odor has improved a lot at this point. The smell is quite enjoyable, powerful and multifaceted. The garlic part is definitely distinguishable, but it goes much further than that. I will probably let it consolidate for another week or so, before applying a casing layer and introducing to fruiting conditions.

I'm pasteurizing some straw and worm castings for the remaining jars of spawn. I will also be pasteurizing some woodchips and sawdust for another project so maybe I will mix in some of that as well.



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Re: Mycetinis scorodonius on coir? [Re: Poison Drink]
    #27257516 - 03/17/21 02:22 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

I pretty sure these are clean.

These are my oldest dishes... maybe it needs a good browning before fruiting like shiitake? I have a shit load of this spawn right now. I am determined to get these to work.


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Re: Mycetinis scorodonius on coir? [Re: bw86]
    #27258079 - 03/17/21 08:32 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Judging by the pictures in Sporulator's thread, the mycelium might turn a bit yellowish, but it doesn't seem to discolor all that much.

I made another bin today with the two remaining spawn jars. I went with the pasteurized straw and worm compost again and added a bit of pasteurized small beech wood chips and oak sawdust to it. I did put on gloves this time because I didn't want to have that sickening odor permeate into my hands again. The fully colonized bin on the opposite has quite a pleasant scent. I occasionally crack open the lid to get a whiff of it. I would describe it as blue cheese and garlic.

The mycelium definitely thickens with maturity as can be seen in your agar pictures. The spawn jars I used today were also more mature, and they had quite a bit of yellow metabolites. The smell was equally atrocious as before though so I'm not too worried..



Any progress on your cased oak sawdust?


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Re: Mycetinis scorodonius on coir? [Re: Poison Drink]
    #27263467 - 03/21/21 04:02 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

I didn't place the fully colonized bin in fruiting conditions yet, but yesterday I was thinking it already started pinning. Today, upon closer inspection, it's growing these small blobs all over the substrate. The largest ones are about the size of a small pea.  I'm not sure what this is. I'm pondering to crack open the lid without applying a casing layer so I can keep an eye on it.



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