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What 'humbled' you?
    #26378622 - 12/13/19 07:41 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I think we've all had that one trip that kind of really humbled us. Some crazy type of experience that showed us to tread lightly with these things. Doesn't have to be loss of self(even if that's what humbled you). Could have just been as little as a weird thought.. or maybe even a visual.

Please share any very strange memorable experience you have had that really stuck with you.. that may have had you put the mushrooms down for a bit. After my last experience, I've been very hesitant on taking them again because they humbled me to the point of being extremely grateful for my sanity. Haven't really wanted to take them again after that.

But, just had the thought today that I may just take them this weekend. I'll see how things pan out - was just wondering any experience you've encountered that may have made you weary about dosing again!

Not that it's a negative thing. Mine wasn't so much negative. It was more humbling and understanding that a clear and sane mind is such a beautiful thing that a lot of us take for granted. Most of the reason that we feel like we won't take them again for awhile is because we were taught a huge lesson and just needed to step the fuck back and integrate & let the fire cool down.

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Re: What 'humbled' you? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26378748 - 12/13/19 09:04 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

My 3g experience a few months ago which was pretty disorienting has kept me away from doses larger than 1.5g (and it wasn't that bad I just haven't had the want to do it, until now :hehehe:)

However, I have been microdosing and I did take 1.5g for a Tool concert which was awesome. But I had a moment at the concert (before Tool started playing) where I peaked pretty hard and felt like I could hear every individual sound of the crowd (If you've ever seen the Bruce Almighty movie, it was exactly like when he couldn't stop the voices of all the people's prayers in his head from overwhelming him). In that moment I had a very brief "I need to get the fuck out of here moment" but I wasn't going to leave Tool if my limbs were being detached so I quickly calmed myself and ended up having a great experience.

And you gotta take that leap to 5g like you said :mushroom2: I want to read that trip report :cheers:


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Re: What 'humbled' you? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26378763 - 12/13/19 09:11 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I'd have to strongly agree with the feeling of relief when returning to your unadulterated state of mind.

I think it gets lost on a lot of people new to psychedelics - that we should take them as a way to expound upon our chemically-uninfluenced selves.
It seems that a lot of people, my younger self included, just can't wait for their next time on that other plane. And that gets abusive.

So I guess another humbling time for me was when a dose proper kicked my ass and didn't let me return to my clear and sane state of mind for many months after.
I think it was letting me know that I was abusing it.
And that, since I wasn't treasuring myself, it felt it could strip that of me.

I never appreciated myself more, once I made the arduous journey back to myself.


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Re: What 'humbled' you? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26378777 - 12/13/19 09:18 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Vibe_Enthusiast said:
I think we've all had that one trip that kind of really humbled us. Some crazy type of experience that showed us to tread lightly with these things. Doesn't have to be loss of self(even if that's what humbled you). Could have just been as little as a weird thought.. or maybe even a visual.

Please share any very strange memorable experience you have had that really stuck with you.. that may have had you put the mushrooms down for a bit. After my last experience, I've been very hesitant on taking them again because they humbled me to the point of being extremely grateful for my sanity. Haven't really wanted to take them again after that.

But, just had the thought today that I may just take them this weekend. I'll see how things pan out - was just wondering any experience you've encountered that may have made you weary about dosing again!

Not that it's a negative thing. Mine wasn't so much negative. It was more humbling and understanding that a clear and sane mind is such a beautiful thing that a lot of us take for granted. Most of the reason that we feel like we won't take them again for awhile is because we were taught a huge lesson and just needed to step the fuck back and integrate & let the fire cool down.

Share below!




Hey Vibe_Enthusiast,

Great post, I know EXACTLY where you’re coming from! How about a 28 year lay off! Had a really intense Liberty Cap experience at the end of the 80s when I was about 21. I will write up a proper trip report and get it on here for you guys to digest, but can’t be arsed at the moment! It;l take some effort! Anyway, to summarise, it wa a proper ego death, which I had no fore-knowledge of. Weren’t really on the internet then  so was pretty clueless on dose and what to expect. I went to the DMT place described in The Spirit Molecule - many of those taking part in that study reported a place like a waiting room for your energy , THAT WAS VERY FAMILIAR! But it’s scarred me for life, and even now am only slowly learning to let go properly in trips. I came back to shrooms to help with depression, after reading and watching loads of stuff on the internet about the research.

Anyway, that is not the trip I want to tell you about! Trips can humble you for many reasons. So recently had another intense Liberty Cap trip, but only about 3.6g dry (was many times that 30 years ago). So the following trip I went for 3.8g Psilocybe Cubensis B+. Trip report here.

What humbled me was the fact that the psychedelic gods / the mushroom  spirits were gentle with me. And the trip was awesome. I was infused with energy, and danced for bout 4 hours. With eyes closed I was with a multitude of beings, all one tribe, nd it felt tribal. We were on giant fairground style machinery, all swaying and dancing to the music. I was floating, upside down, completely 3D. Then I started to feel eternity. It overwhelmed me and I had to sit down for 5 minutes. Head in hands I started crying, overwhelmed with good emotions, maybe euphoria, and eternal gratitude that there are mushrooms to guide us. It is really hard to explain. It was like the mushrooms wanted to help me.

Hope this has added something. I will write that other,trip report too!

Take care,
DJ Ed


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Re: What 'humbled' you? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26378826 - 12/13/19 09:43 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Roughly 2 years ago I had a terrifying mushroom trip that changed the way I relate to and take mushrooms. I had been tripping about once per month for 6 months prior to this without any problems. All joyous, beautiful experiences. This one was different right from the start. There was just, this deep, deep undercurrent of fear and dread that wouldn’t go away. I was strapped on this terrifying ride for the greater part of four hours, all I could do was ride it out.

It’s like perfect existential terror. I suspect this type of trip signals deeper demolition of certain ego structures and the ego perceives this as horrifying. I say this because after this trip, a big chunk of who I thought I was simply wasn’t there anymore, and didn’t come back. Cold fear and signs of trauma hung around for about a year.

I wish I could conjure up more details right now to describe the trip more vividly. This experience was humbling, matured both me and my relationship to psychedelics. I now know where the experience can go, and I don’t believe anyone is immune. I think it’s a numbers game; out of one-hundred trips, some percentage of them is going to turn in that direction.


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Re: What 'humbled' you? [Re: CountHTML]
    #26378856 - 12/13/19 09:56 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

35gs wet truffles + 20gs wet apes = scary ass humbling experience


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Re: What 'humbled' you? [Re: CountHTML]
    #26378891 - 12/13/19 10:08 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Cold fear and signs of trauma hung around for about a year.





How did you dig yourself out of that?


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Re: What 'humbled' you? [Re: footpath]
    #26378909 - 12/13/19 10:15 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

My favorite trip of all was also my most intense in a purely psychedelic sense (psychotic break was the most terrorizing/damaging), and after that I became ridiculously careful with Anahuasca, and psychedelics in general.

Whereas before I was brewing up fistfuls of Chaliponga, after that I got a scale, and rarely went over about 3 grams of mimosa.

I would love to summon the courage to do go that deep again, as when I peaked and realized I was going to be okay it was truly, not merely the best trip of my life, but hands down one of the best/most significant experiences.

But hyperspace for that duration of time is a truly daunting prospect...


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Re: What 'humbled' you? [Re: CountHTML]
    #26378924 - 12/13/19 10:20 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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It’s like perfect existential terror.

.You’ve just sent shivers down my spine countHTML! I think I get the existential fear every trip. I always do upwards of 3.3g dry PC. But sometimes the level just goes up and up. I often find myself changing rooms in the first hour, hour and a half, to not panic, and change something.   

I wish I could conjure up more details right now to describe the trip more vividly. This experience was humbling, matured both me and my relationship to psychedelics. I now know where the experience can go, and I don’t believe anyone is immune. I think it’s a numbers game; out of one-hundred trips, some percentage of them is going to turn in that direction.

.  Im doing all my trips alone these days, nd somehow I reckon this makes it easier to handle the fear and the anxiety nd the existential dread, and somehow easier to just let go. The type of trip you get never seems to be logical, by that I mean, you can never predict a trip! 
   




Take care all,
DJ Ed


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Re: What 'humbled' you? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26378926 - 12/13/19 10:21 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I was most humbled when I saw someone else be torn apart by acid


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Re: What 'humbled' you? [Re: The Mycologist]
    #26378961 - 12/13/19 10:38 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Acid, almost certainly LSD, is what tore myself from me.
I mean, really I was what tore myself from me. But the acid was a really good catalyst.

Mushrooms have roughed me up from time to time, but they always let me off easy.


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    #26378963 - 12/13/19 10:38 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I experimented with various forms of self administered psychotherapy for the course of a year and seemed to triangulate on a solution. I knew that trauma is the result of an event happening to us which is beyond our ability to cope or make sense of. So, I made sense of the experience. I wrote about it. I tried to accommodate/assimilate the experience into my broader worldview. I was lucky enough at the time to have very close friends, quasi family, who I tripped with frequently who I could talk to about it and be received with empathy and understanding. Genuine empathy from others is very, very healing.

I also happen to have spiritual practice and follow a tantric tradition which provides a context for this type of thing. A friend recommended a book by Robert Anton Wilson called The Cosmic Trigger and suggested that I had blown a huge part of my ego to smithereens and that I was basically in what he dubs “chapel perilous,” a place of spooky metaphorical entities, uncertainty and radical agnosticism about the reality of anything. It was a useful framework for me even if maps aren’t the territory. But the fear, the entities, what do you do? Laugh at them. You keep doing so until the phenomena clear.

What I was ultimately left with was tougher skin and increased insight into the nature of trauma though arguably my case was light. I don’t regret this odyssey though I would not haven chosen it. But hey, such is what it is to be a psychonaut. Sometimes we sign up for things without realizing what it entails, but we look back with that subtle warmth knowing that the adventure, the truly strange is something we love.


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    #26378998 - 12/13/19 10:53 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds like we had a similar, most profound and earth-shattering existential crisis.

Mine was largely relieved over the course of about a year with breathing, meditation, exercise, and incremental exposure to society.

I explored the practices of Wudang Taoism and Shaolin Buddhism. Martial/Spiritual/Medicinal.

I got out into nature - A Lot. I did reckless endurance practices like biking as far as I could with just the clothes on my back or going up the Appalachian with only a few granola bars for sustenance. It was really dumb and I would never advise anyone do similar. But it absolutely helped me to reconnect with reality. See fears bigger than those my mind could create.

And then, as plain as it may sound, I got a job in retail. It took me a long time of being the super weird and quiet guy with a shaggy beard but, after a few months, the constant exposure to all the weird sheeple of the world made me really grasp that I wasn't so lost anymore. At least not in comparison to everyone else.


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Re: What 'humbled' you? [Re: footpath]
    #26379009 - 12/13/19 11:00 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Acid, almost certainly LSD, is what tore myself from me.
I mean, really I was what tore myself from me. But the acid was a really good catalyst.

Mushrooms have roughed me up from time to time, but they always let me off easy.




Eat more :wink:


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Re: What 'humbled' you? [Re: grati]
    #26379032 - 12/13/19 11:10 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

The more I take, the easier it gets.
Most of the turbulent mushroom trips I've had were mid-range.


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Re: What 'humbled' you? [Re: footpath]
    #26379107 - 12/13/19 11:55 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yea I agree. The more I go on I think high dose acid is just bad. It can be easier for low doses, but high doses just frys you. Shrooms take me there but it doesnt feel as hard on my body.

Hard to describe. But Im on team shroom


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Re: What 'humbled' you? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26379109 - 12/13/19 11:57 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I was humbled after 10 years off these things, and revisited.  I thought I knew everything and had a spiritual outlook on life that was judgmental of other people.  That got blown out the window with some nice fungus...much happier since.


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Re: What 'humbled' you? [Re: ermine]
    #26379120 - 12/13/19 12:04 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, haha my hell trip was on 3 grams. I had taken up to 6 grams prior without any problems, wonderful heavy experiences. The bad one had a different vibe and quality altogether.


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Re: What 'humbled' you? [Re: CountHTML]
    #26379195 - 12/13/19 12:44 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

my mom's genetics


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Re: What 'humbled' you? [Re: footpath] * 1
    #26379272 - 12/13/19 01:26 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Acid, almost certainly LSD, is what tore myself from me.
I mean, really I was what tore myself from me. But the acid was a really good catalyst.

Mushrooms have roughed me up from time to time, but they always let me off easy.




:whathesaid:

For my answer, here is a "cut and paste" from my 2013 interview by Learyfan.  The event itself happened circa 1970, nearly 50 years ago.  There's more, but here is the core of it:


Q: What was your worst drug experience?

A: No doubt about that one.  Picked up ten tabs of Orange Sunshine from the house of a girl in my high school.  Took one out of the foil, and swallowed it (no water) as I neared the park where I intended to spend my time listening to a band shell concert.  I was alone. Less than 15 minutes later, I was already DEEP in trouble.  As I walked across the grassy field towards the band shell, the blades of grass started singing.  SINGING!!!!!  My flip flops looked twelve feet away, and the lawn was waving like the deep Atlantic after a hurricane.  I remember making the executive decision to go back to the car and cower in the rear seat until things settled down.  The last thing I remember is looking up through the rear window of the car, and seeing the tree limbs come alive and reach down towards the car for my soul.

Some time, many hours later, in a place many miles from the park, I walked up to the house of a complete stranger simply because the door was open (there was a screen door) and the outside light was on.  A woman answered the knock or the bell.  I handed her my wallet and asked her to please tell me who I was.  Suffice it to say, the husband came out to talk to me, and the police were called.  The male homeowner was very nice to me.  So was the cop who showed up, who I did not even recognize as law enforcement.

Apparently, because I was clean cut looking, young, and respectful, the cop called my dad.  Because I had our only car, they had to borrow a neighbors car, and my dad AND mom had to come, since both cars needed to be driven away.

Anyway, I had zero interaction with my mother, who was sent home immediately with the neighbors car.  I was told by the nice officer I had to leave with the ANGRY man (my father, whom I also did not recognize).  I did NOT want to go with him.  He was so angry and MEAN.  Why did I have to go with HIM???  Anyway, I got driven to an area hospital ER close to our home by the angry man.  The nice cop had given the angry man the other 9 tabs of Orange Sunshine to give to the hospital doctor so they would know what I’d taken.  I had told him they were in the glove compartment since he was so nice.

I spent the next few hours watching the green and white ER curtains wave, and when I was finally recovered enough to recognize my dad, I was allowed to leave.  The acid was left with the ER doctor(s).  For months my parents treated me like a criminal and a pariah.  Every time I came or went I was scrutinized.  My room was repeatedly searched.  Fast forward about three months.  I’m laying in bed in my underwear sleeping.  Cops (detectives, actually) bust into my house with a warrant.  I was charged with possession of LSD and cuffed face down in my bed in my underwear.  Having taken so much shit from my parents, this was the last straw.  I told the “pig” I wasn’t in possession of anything, I was in my fucking UNDERWEAR!  As they marched me down the stairs I was singing “Have you seen the little piggies, in their starched white shirts”...

Needless to say they cuffed me HARD, bent over in the back seat of the cruiser for the ride to be booked and fingerprinted.  My dad (furious again) hired a lawyer and got the whole thing dismissed.  There was nothing linking me (the chain of evidence had been broken when the cop gave the ‘cid to my dad, who gave it to the ER who later gave it to the cops) to the LSD, so other than dad having to pay a lawyer, I got off scott free.  No record whatsoever as I was given a youthful offender unconditional discharge.  Records were completely expunged one year later.


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