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Penis Envy 6 - Cake done or fine? * 1
    #26378184 - 12/12/19 10:13 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Hi All, these jars were inoculated a few months ago and has been extremly slow. All it does is this. Small shrooms and then dries or pins early. I am
Not getting any healthy edible sized. Temp is 26/27 degrees, sprayed met not humid and 2-4 times I fan.

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Re: Penis Envy 6 - Cake done or fine? [Re: edgeza]
    #26378294 - 12/12/19 11:26 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

A 24hr dunk might do some good.


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Re: Penis Envy 6 - Cake done or fine? [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #26378307 - 12/12/19 11:38 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

HI Gypsy,

I did this and this is what the results are. It didn't pin at all, so I did the fridge shock. Then tiny pins came after 2 weeks and then nothing for 2 weeks. Then I 24hour dunk, and now this after another 2 weeks :frown:


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Re: Penis Envy 6 - Cake done or fine? [Re: Feasoghorm] * 1
    #26378311 - 12/12/19 11:41 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I’d clean everything off the cake (aborts, verm etc) and put it back in the jar it grew in (cleaned)... ball up a piece of foil the size of a bouncy ball, fill the jar up with water and put the foil ball on top of the cake. 

Over the sink, push the foil down with the lid and screw it on.  Put in fridge for 24 hours

What size fruiting chamber are you using?  It looks too big for that one cake.. for one cake you can use a gallon ziplock with pin holes poked in it all over the bag 2 inches apart.  Make sure there’s like 3 inches of wet perlite and put the cake on a double ended casing of wet verm on an upside down jar lid or something similar so the cake isn’t touching the perlite. here’s a similar setup for three cakes


Or you can use a 2 liter bottle or anything small enough to maintain a high humidity area directly around the cakes fruiting surface.. if you use too big of a container, you don’t do it any favors

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HI Gypsy,

I did this and this is what the results are. It didn't pin at all, so I did the fridge shock. Then tiny pins came after 2 weeks and then nothing for 2 weeks. Then I 24hour dunk, and now this after another 2 weeks :frown:



If it’s taking this long, the cake could just be toast at this point have you started more?

Faht


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Re: Penis Envy 6 - Cake done or fine? [Re: fahtster] * 1
    #26378333 - 12/13/19 12:09 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I have 4 cakes. Here is an image of the tub.


Would have done a tub that is why I had these 4 cakes. But somebody told me to try the cakes alone as appose to monotub. BUt I always had success with monotub. don't know why I only did cakes.


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Re: Penis Envy 6 - Cake done or fine? [Re: edgeza]
    #26378379 - 12/13/19 01:11 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Im not seeing any holes in your tub. Is it a SGFC?

Also, place a barrier such as tin foil between your cakes and the perlite.


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Re: Penis Envy 6 - Cake done or fine? [Re: edgeza] * 1
    #26378382 - 12/13/19 01:13 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, tub is too big.. I would have put 24 cakes (12 double stacked “towers”) is a tub that size


They love the company. When you fit the container to the sub size, they themselves help create the environment they themselves thrive in.. that’s why mono tubs work so well.. the entire size of the sub is the size of the container (minus the head room).yours is like living in a mansion by yourself.  Lots to maintain and it’s lonely :lol:

Live and learn heh.  But for your next cake run, I’d definitely double end case thickly and put something in between your cakes and the perlite.  Are they heavy or light?  They could water logged too from being in the perlite... is the perlite still wet?  Are you watering it?  I’d imagine you’d have to with those time spans.. I’m surprised they’re still uncontaminated

Although I’ve never worked with pe6 before so idk the time frame but those cakes I posted above in this post are PE, so I’m aware they take their sweet time, so I’d imagine pe6 takes its sweet time too. 

If/when you do some more cakes, feel free to hit me up if you have any questions.. I’d be more than happy to assist you.  I’ve done 300+ cakes

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Re: Penis Envy 6 - Cake done or fine? [Re: fahtster] * 1
    #26378411 - 12/13/19 02:08 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Okay so how can I save these? Put in smaller tub together, fill with perlite and place them ontop on tinfoil and then just see if they fruit? or dunk for 24


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Re: Penis Envy 6 - Cake done or fine? [Re: edgeza]
    #26378417 - 12/13/19 02:17 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Can you answer some of my questions from above first? That’ll give me a better idea of what condition the cake is in...  because you aren’t gonna want to dunk it if it’s waterlogged etc

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Re: Penis Envy 6 - Cake done or fine? [Re: fahtster]
    #26378445 - 12/13/19 03:22 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

They feel light as carton. You think perlite draining it? I spray sides. Not on cakes or perlite


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Re: Penis Envy 6 - Cake done or fine? [Re: edgeza]
    #26378446 - 12/13/19 03:22 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

These mistakes will have an effect on final output?


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Re: Penis Envy 6 - Cake done or fine? [Re: edgeza]
    #26378449 - 12/13/19 03:38 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah if they feel light, then do a 24 hour dunk.. make sure you clean all the verm and bits off of it.. then get a smaller fruiting chamber and do as described earlier.. use the pictures I posted of the small FC as a reference and hope for the best.  If hasn’t put out much so far, so the nutrients should still be available.

Good luck!

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Re: Penis Envy 6 - Cake done or fine? [Re: fahtster]
    #26378468 - 12/13/19 04:06 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Penis Envy 6 - Cake done or fine? [Re: YogiBear]
    #26381366 - 12/14/19 01:46 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Status update:

Dunked, got a tupperware big enough for 5 nicely around eachother, ontop of foil, ontop of perlite. I put it in the bit container to assist with humid environment and just out another tupperware over that to keep FAE and humidity high.



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Re: Penis Envy 6 - Cake done or fine? [Re: edgeza]
    #26381416 - 12/14/19 02:17 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Well.. you’re almost there.  You’ll probably need to drill some small 1/8” holes in the outer container.  1 every 2 inches or so.  Having the perlite open on the bottom might be enough but the idea of a sgfc is that it can still breathe without losing too much humidity.

See how there’s the little pin holes in the bag in this picture


That’s what you’re missing... but like I said, having the perlite open underneath might be enough. 

Did you check this out? Rr’s pf tek sgfc

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Re: Penis Envy 6 - Cake done or fine? [Re: fahtster]
    #26382469 - 12/15/19 12:10 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I know we might consider bulk grow soon. Myself and a friend will make a room full of it. My previous 2 batches was perfect doing monotub. But standalone cakes caught me offguard haha.

I know for then ext batch we will have proper fruiting chambers setup. I just want something to make this batch get over and done with.

Thanks for all the help Faht


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