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d0urd3n
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Tubaria 1
#26377996 - 12/12/19 08:23 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Does anyone have any good resources or tips for identifying tubaria?
They have been coming up a lot on here and I went to do some research and I'm not seeing much. I plan to go through and view tubaria species on here and MO to become familiar with it but wanted a general breakdown before doing so. But mainly at this point I just want to be able to view a mushroom and recognize it as tubaria, before delving deeper.
Thanks.
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Grosbeak
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Well I'm wondering where, in general, you're located. I live in the Santa Cruz Mnts, CA, and just found these on my property, and I've self-identified them as Tubaria furfuracea. It's one of the few mushrooms I've confidently identified myself, but of course I could be wrong - I'm new to all of this.
But also, why Tubaria? I'm curious.
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d0urd3n
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I'm in the INW. Which not many in this subforum seem to be at. But in just asking because some of them look similar to psathyrella to me. And really I'm just trying to prove my identification skills. I looked it up and couldn't find much. Wikipedia doesn't even tell you the spore color or much of anything.
Just trying to broaden my knowledge. I can't cultivate edibles right now as I don't have the space. And there's no mushrooms when it snows... So I figure it's time I really work on my ID skills. I can ID most actives and choice edibles. But beyond that there are so many genera I really need to study up on.
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bio_alchemist
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Tubaria is common on woodchip beds, it has brown orange spores, compared to the black dark purple brown of Psathyrella. They never get as Tall as Psathyrella species usually are. The gills are almost the same color as the cap.
They sometimes have an incredibly delicate annulus that is almost always completely gone when you find them.
They never grow in clusters like psathyrella often do, and they are no where near as fragile and crumbly as Psathyrella sp.
They also smell different.
Goodluck!! 
Tubaria >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Psathyrella
https://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Tubaria_furfuracea.html
Edited by bio_alchemist (12/12/19 11:10 PM)
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d0urd3n
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I believe psathyrella can have brown spores though. That's a good link. I read through it a few days ago but it doesn't speak to the genus as a whole.
Thanks for the info.
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bio_alchemist
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Quote:
d0urd3n said: I believe psathyrella can have brown spores though. That's a good link. I read through it a few days ago but it doesn't speak to the genus as a whole.
Thanks for the info.
Your right! I edited it to be a little more clear. There are not too many species of Tubaria in any particular area, best to just read up on them individually. Those key differences seem to be pretty Consistant at least with my local species.
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Alan Rockefeller
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There are three species going under the name Tubaria furfuracea in California. One of them also occurs in Europe, so I call that one T. furfuracea sensu stricto.
I don't yet know how to tell them apart without sequencing the ITS gene.
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