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how the pyramids were probably built * 2
    #26377775 - 12/12/19 06:12 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

This guy figured out how coral Castle in Florida was built and is likely very similar to how the pryamids were built and it's actually pretty primitive but kinda clever and complicated. Requires alot of knowledge of wiring and electric currents. Check it out. Something about the magnetic flywheel as a key component. And it was all built with scrap from a junkyard.  Thought it was pretty interesting




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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: Ogla]
    #26378047 - 12/12/19 08:53 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I wish I could get into something as much as the guy in the video is into this


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: Ogla]
    #26378687 - 12/13/19 08:21 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

i can dig it


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: zZZz]
    #26378710 - 12/13/19 08:40 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Very interesting.

Would he really have needed all that fancy equipment, though?

I think it is possible that the technology used to build the pyramids and coral castle was even more primitive than this.

For example, look how easily this one man moves this 20,000lb concrete block without any of that fancy stuff:



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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: zZZz]
    #26378713 - 12/13/19 08:41 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

The pyramids were built by hoards of professional stone masons. There's no question about this. Limestone, granite, etc. are easy to split with feathers and wedges. It's still done today.


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: christopera] * 1
    #26378724 - 12/13/19 08:45 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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The pyramids were built by hoards of professional stone masons. There's no question about this. Limestone, granite, etc. are easy to split with feathers and wedges. It's still done today.




The quarrying is the easiest part, its overcoming the effects of gravity and moving massive blocks into place that is generally consider to be the mystery here.

As seen in the video I posted above, though, I think there are numerous primitive techniques that could've been used to move these blocks into place.


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: waves]
    #26378726 - 12/13/19 08:48 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Boats. The quarries were up stream.



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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: christopera]
    #26378729 - 12/13/19 08:51 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

they were def on sum shit


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: Ogla] * 1
    #26378734 - 12/13/19 08:57 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I have been there when I lived in florida, never knew or thought of any of this. Pretty cool.

@cris Do u really think you solved one of the most debated ancient mysteries of the world with that ridiculously simple explanation that completely disregards 90% of the crucial points of the debate?


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: christopera]
    #26378742 - 12/13/19 09:00 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Boats. The quarries were up stream.





Again, I think that is still the easy part. Moving around big heavy stones or putting them on boats and floating them isn't exactly rocket science.

I don't think getting the stones to the build site is what most people consider to be the mystery here.

I think most people are mystified by the lifting of the heavy stones into place. Whether its the putting the blocks at the top of the pyramids, stonehenge, or coral castles, its the lifting part that gets most people.



But yeah, considering how easily this one man can move a 10 ton block of concrete all by himself in the backyard of his Michigan home, I don't really think there is much of a mystery here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=-K7q20VzwVs&feature=emb_logo

I think the ancients were probably just a little more clever (and hardworking) than we like to give them credit for.


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: waves]
    #26378745 - 12/13/19 09:02 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It is definitely a big part of the mystery and boats just do nottttt explain it away


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26378754 - 12/13/19 09:06 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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It is definitely a big part of the mystery and boats just do nottttt explain it away




Did you watch that video I posted?

They could've moved them with boats, they probably could've even just moved them hundreds of miles over dry land.

See how easily that guy can move 20,000 lb blocks of concrete with nothing but sticks, rocks, and gravity?

Now realize that the ancient Egyptians were probably even more clever than that guy and even better with primitive building techniques. And now imagine thousands of slaves doing all the work.

No alien technology or fancy stuff required.


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: waves] * 1
    #26378767 - 12/13/19 09:12 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Being "mystified" is just a nice way of saying that people don't have an understanding of simple tools.


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: christopera] * 2
    #26378785 - 12/13/19 09:25 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I actually thought this thread was gonna be all about THIS GUY (my fave):


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26378787 - 12/13/19 09:26 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I actually thought this thread was gonna be all about THIS GUY (my fave):





I beat ya to it. :cool: :cheers:

I also want to add that Wally Wallington is a helluva name.


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: waves]
    #26378791 - 12/13/19 09:28 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Tbh i wasnt even satisfied with that video explaining stonehenge, let alone the pyramids which was a completely different project in a completely different area of the world in a likely different timeframe. Maybe they go into some pyramid stuff in the video, i did not watch the whole thing but i got the gist of it. Lmk any points in the video i should specifically see that i maybe missed


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: waves] * 1
    #26378794 - 12/13/19 09:29 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I actually thought this thread was gonna be all about THIS GUY (my fave):





I beat ya to it. :cool: :cheers:

I also want to add that Wally Wallington is a helluva name.




Ah I see it now, awesome! Phone was loading goofy. Good to know someone else saw this already LOL.


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26378795 - 12/13/19 09:30 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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i did not watch the whole thing but i got the gist of it.




If you didn't watch the whole video, and you are still confused about how they built, the pyramids, or coral castles, you didn't get the gist of it.

It pretty damn well explains all of them. At the very least, it shows one technique that could've easily been scaled up and used to build any of the structures in question.

Is it definitely the technique they used? Maybe not, who knows? But it does illustrate at least one way it could've been done.

Explaining that they did it with extremely primitive technology doesn't make for a very good episode of Ancient Aliens, though...hence the "mystery"


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: waves]
    #26378822 - 12/13/19 09:41 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe it is, maybe not, who knows? Im not convinced and i certainly do not at all think it "pretty damn well explains it". This is farrrrr from the first feasible technique using 'primitive' engineering that has 'explained' the pyramids being built and I didnt fully buy any of those either. They all just got flaws, and the people presenting them obviously have hella incentive to downplay those flaws, ignore whether or not any of this techonology was used at all or in ever a remotely similar capacity in the culture, or any culture, of the time period or similar time period, etc. etc. and typically provide no evidence for anything of this existing, being discussed in ancient texts, being referred to, being discovered anywhere, nothing. Almost always a 'look what i figured out how to do'.

Videos like that are a layman's dream, and a historians nightmare.

If you honestly think there deserves to be quotation marks around the 'mystery' of the pyramids, then I dont really even wanna go much further into this lol


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: waves] * 1
    #26379140 - 12/13/19 12:14 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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It pretty damn well explains all of them. At the very least, it shows one technique that could've easily been scaled up and used to build any of the structures in question.




Ah yes, if you have a fairly dependable source of electrical power and the metallurgy required for the electromagnetic components. Of which of course there is 0 evidence that the ancient Egyptians had, or even something resembling them remotely.

I think I'm going to stick with the hypothesis of ramps and blocks being put on rollers allowing them to be pushed onto the ramps and into place.


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26379185 - 12/13/19 12:40 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, I mean it is still a mystery in that we may never know exactly how they really did it.

I guess I'm just trying to make the make the point that the explanation for how they did it is probably much simpler than anything involving aliens, or even wires and electricity for that matter.

In the video I posted, all it took was one guy to move that massive block. He can move a 1 ton block 300 feet per hour, and this is just a random hobby of his.

For the ancient Egyptians, moving these blocks wasn't just a hobby, this would've been all they did. They would be absolute pros at this.

They would be more efficient, they would've had better techniques, and more importantly, there was tens of thousands (some estimate hundreds of thousands) of people working on this project in organization.

I'm not trying to take away from what they did, it is one of the most amazing feats of all time. I just think there may be simpler explanations to some of these things.


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: koraks]
    #26379187 - 12/13/19 12:42 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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It pretty damn well explains all of them. At the very least, it shows one technique that could've easily been scaled up and used to build any of the structures in question.




Ah yes, if you have a fairly dependable source of electrical power and the metallurgy required for the electromagnetic components. Of which of course there is 0 evidence that the ancient Egyptians had, or even something resembling them remotely.

I think I'm going to stick with the hypothesis of ramps and blocks being put on rollers allowing them to be pushed onto the ramps and into place.




Are you referring to the video I posted, or the video OP posted? The one I posted requires no electricity.


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: waves]
    #26379197 - 12/13/19 12:46 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Why do you keep bringing up aliens lol. You are really making me lose confidence in this debate...

I agree that it was likely something fairly 'typical' that was undergone for the construction. But our definitions of typical/simple are clearly not the same. The egyptians recorded even simple things they thought was cool, such as farm tools and how they are used. But not an absolutely revolutionary and groundbreaking construction technique, that apparently was only used for that? Just doesnt add up.. Leads me to think that it was a somewhat 'typical' technique. Probably with massesssss of workers, and probably something somewhat along the lines of the roller method that koraks referred to. But this is not my particular era of expertise, I do classics. But I lovvveeeee the ancient era and have delved into it pretty heavily. But like I said, take everything I say with a grain of salt. I am not at all an Egyptologist.


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26379207 - 12/13/19 12:49 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Well first of they have pictures of them moving large statues with sleds not rollers. How do you guys feel about some of the flooded chute theories and the like?


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26379209 - 12/13/19 12:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I have seen this and I have also heard some controversy over it. Such as the sand inevitably building up in front and causing such sleds to be immobile without rollers. But I do not remember entirely.. I think that there is a pretty limited weight limit to sled travel on sand that wouldve made it impossible for the pyramid stones to be transported on them.

All Im trying to say is that the chances of that dude in that video doing such a specific technique and getting anywhere near to the actual technique used by ancient Egyptians is just incredibly unlikely and he does not do a good job of convincing as much as they say 'check out how cool this is, could do it right? pretty dopeeee'


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26379243 - 12/13/19 01:06 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Like I said, that is just one of many ways they've could've done it without any electricity or advanced technology.

I'm sure the ancient people were aware of many other simple techniques like that, which would've been developed and perfected and passed down over periods of thousands of years from one generation of Egyptians to the next


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: waves]
    #26379254 - 12/13/19 01:09 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

But it was not


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26379264 - 12/13/19 01:17 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

There's quite literally zero evidence that electro mechanical devices were used.


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: christopera]
    #26379312 - 12/13/19 01:54 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

What about the flooded tubes


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26380494 - 12/14/19 02:08 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Maybe it is, maybe not, who knows? Im not convinced and i certainly do not at all think it "pretty damn well explains it". This is farrrrr from the first feasible technique using 'primitive' engineering that has 'explained' the pyramids being built and I didnt fully buy any of those either. They all just got flaws, and the people presenting them obviously have hella incentive to downplay those flaws, ignore whether or not any of this techonology was used at all or in ever a remotely similar capacity in the culture, or any culture, of the time period or similar time period, etc. etc. and typically provide no evidence for anything of this existing, being discussed in ancient texts, being referred to, being discovered anywhere, nothing. Almost always a 'look what i figured out how to do'.

Videos like that are a layman's dream, and a historians nightmare.

If you honestly think there deserves to be quotation marks around the 'mystery' of the pyramids, then I dont really even wanna go much further into this lol




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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26380627 - 12/14/19 05:08 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Welcome to the world of history debates


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: waves]
    #26380630 - 12/14/19 05:09 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Are you referring to the video I posted, or the video OP posted? The one I posted requires no electricity.



No I'm sorry, I was referring to the OP video.


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: zZZz]
    #26380711 - 12/14/19 06:26 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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they were def on sum shit



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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: pineninja]
    #26380717 - 12/14/19 06:32 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Think about a society as advanced as todays ..just in different ways.

Their measures of success not tied to todays standards.
Perhaps a society advanced in the use of psycedelics and open in the sharing of the experiences being had.

I think that the pyramids hold more meaning than most realize.
I think that the numbers and patterns involved potentially give clues to their profound understanding of consciousness and the universe.

Maps of us if you will.

How they were built is not as important as why.


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: Ogla]
    #26381174 - 12/14/19 11:42 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I’m sorry about your Jeep buddy. I really wish you wouldn’t have told the whole world about my bad trip though. It’s your fault anyhow.


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: christopera]
    #26381187 - 12/14/19 11:47 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Both boats and the use of physics- pullies can be used in certain configurations to exponentially increase the amount of pull.


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: Maverick] * 1
    #26381465 - 12/14/19 02:45 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

What could compel you to build the greatest thing ever been.
Maybe a collective society manifesting understanding as they had seen.
Great monoliths of substance spelt out to represent the void.
What better way to say here there when confined to this side.

What can dictate a culture wholly and profoundly so.
That even through eons and its artworks still may show.
The ethereal experience they believed so resolute.
Was to them as real as todays scientific pursuit.

Gods to them were more than particles to be found.
Science was is the reeds a rustling Shu sound.
When our seemingly abstract experience was normally spoke.
An understanding moment arising from smoke.


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: koraks] * 1
    #26381859 - 12/14/19 06:18 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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It pretty damn well explains all of them. At the very least, it shows one technique that could've easily been scaled up and used to build any of the structures in question.




Ah yes, if you have a fairly dependable source of electrical power and the metallurgy required for the electromagnetic components. Of which of course there is 0 evidence that the ancient Egyptians had, or even something resembling them remotely.

I think I'm going to stick with the hypothesis of ramps and blocks being put on rollers allowing them to be pushed onto the ramps and into place.



Once again the most likely explanation is probably the best.

Egyptians had tens of thousands of men working for decades to build pyramids. It's not hard to imagine the sort of things one can do with that much manpower for that long, especially if you can afford to pay for it.  I don't see any great technological mystery either.


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Re: how the pyramids were probably built [Re: Northerner]
    #26382567 - 12/15/19 02:50 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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It pretty damn well explains all of them. At the very least, it shows one technique that could've easily been scaled up and used to build any of the structures in question.




Ah yes, if you have a fairly dependable source of electrical power and the metallurgy required for the electromagnetic components. Of which of course there is 0 evidence that the ancient Egyptians had, or even something resembling them remotely.

I think I'm going to stick with the hypothesis of ramps and blocks being put on rollers allowing them to be pushed onto the ramps and into place.



Once again the most likely explanation is probably the best.

Egyptians had tens of thousands of men working for decades to build pyramids. It's not hard to imagine the sort of things one can do with that much manpower for that long, especially if you can afford to pay for it.  I don't see any great technological mystery either.




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