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Poor Man's Pod Help, Please
#26375424 - 12/11/19 04:11 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I started out many years ago with the original hydropod kit (5 gallon buckets) and had great results. Shortly after they modified the original kit to the Poor Man's Pod setup. I know, everyone now uses the shotgun fruiting chamber, but I spend many hours away from the house and like the automated system. I no longer have my hydopod, and have recently gotten back into growing. I have tried to build the PMP (which at this point should be named the Rich Man's Pod) as I have spent a small fortune to get this thing right. My first run a month ago resulted in all of my cakes pinning within 3-5 days, but they all stalled after that, not maturing. My temps were at 76 degrees, temp controlled pad under the chamber, I kept the closet at 77 degrees to control the condensation from "raining" on the cakes. Two hydrometers (analog and digital) show humidity between 90 - 100%. The only thing I was unsure of was CO2 levels. I bought a CO2 meter and found that levels were way high. My air pump was reclycling CO2 back into the chamber...I moved the intake to a different room with fresh air...CO2 levels good now. I had one cake that had pinned and stalled take off and it gave me 4.5 grams dry. The rest were toast as they had been in the chamber for about a month. Threw them out, and started with another dozen cakes a week ago. I thought I had solved all issues, however after 10 days and the myc getting whited and fluffy growth on them...not a single one showed any signs of pinning. I'm beyond frustrated at this point and am asking for any help and advice from anyone that has got this setup to work. Pics included below:








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Re: Poor Man's Pod Help, Please [Re: PinkFloyd]
#26375461 - 12/11/19 04:19 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Unless your grow area is staying below 70 you can ditch the heat pad.
Instead of those hydroballs, coir would work well for a humidity chamber, even a wet towel will work if you already blew your cult budget...
Sounds like you almost had it and then your cakes dried out before maturity maybe, or maybe they got too hot. If your heat pad was at 77 you can still add a few degrees from the heat the cakes themselves make on their own.
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Ditch all them fancy gizmos you only need a few things to mass produce mushrooms, a pressure cooker, grains, jars, plastic tubs, poop, and coir. Cakes are outdated and generally a complete waste of time and money unless you are doing genetics work
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Re: Poor Man's Pod Help, Please [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26375584 - 12/11/19 05:19 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's not too late to go buy a shoebox and put them extra cakes in some poo or coir. You won't regret it
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Re: Poor Man's Pod Help, Please [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26375606 - 12/11/19 05:29 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wow haven't seen a PMP in a good minute that's cool. I made one when I was younger using lava rocks because I couldn't get hydroton. It didn't work for shit but I felt cool using it. Is there a reason you chose to use a PMP over a SGFC? (Nevermind I went back and skimmed over your OP.) The sgfc is probably less maintenance than this setup you just throw the cakes in there and go off to work or grocery shopping or whatever you gotta do, it's all good. No need to mist and fan daily. Just mist when it starts getting dry. Fae and RH are regulated automatically in a nicely build sgfc.
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Re: Poor Man's Pod Help, Please [Re: gizmo1]
#26375620 - 12/11/19 05:36 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hmm I'm thinking you aren't getting enough fae. Did you say the cakes grew fuzzy? Also pick up the cakes are they super pretty heavy? Might could be getting water logged also. I'd say you need to try increasing FAE. Or just build a sgfc this will save the hassle.
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Re: Poor Man's Pod Help, Please [Re: gizmo1]
#26376157 - 12/11/19 10:11 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Update, just flipped the cakes...WTF Please help me understand WTF is going on here. WHY!!! See pics below:



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Re: Poor Man's Pod Help, Please [Re: PinkFloyd]
#26376168 - 12/11/19 10:21 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Your cakes are unhappy with the current conditions of your pod. They are pinning on the bottom where there is likely more humidity and fresh air being pumped in from underneath creating a nice microclimate.
I would second the notion of in the future spawning cakes to coir in a shoe box or similar. They will be fine when you leave the house, and if you dial in your coir to field capacity they should maintain proper growing conditions all on their own.
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Re: Poor Man's Pod Help, Please [Re: HarperLewis]
#26376241 - 12/11/19 11:10 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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one word monotub u cant beat it for cubes. but if u insist on using that thing put ur cakes on something elevated off the hydroton. i use a similar set up for pans but my trays are elevated quite a bit no hydroton ony and inch an a hlf of water with a submerged heater keeping the temp at a constant 77 and also have 2 pumps running 6 air wands the rh stays around 85-90 then i have 2 2 inch fans that come on for 5 min every 3 hrs just to take the rh down to 75-80 and it works rather well for trays of pans but wouldnt work worth a rats ass for cakes of cubes. id say ditch the pmp and go with a plain ol monotub/shoebox type grow you will be happy u did and wish u never dicked with that shit ya it looks cool but id rather use a good ol sgfc even for pans if i wasnt gone 14-16 hrs a day for work good luck to ya
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Re: Poor Man's Pod Help, Please [Re: jcm4620]
#26376267 - 12/11/19 11:28 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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This looks like an incredibly complicated way of unreliably growing very few mushrooms. Change my mind.
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Re: Poor Man's Pod Help, Please [Re: Smartattack]
#26376360 - 12/12/19 12:39 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I attempted a PMP 10 yrs ago. Luckily it was made from spare hydro stuff laying around in garage & only cost me time. Junk all that stuff & keep it as simple as possible until you grasp the basic life cycle. One day it will just click & you will think to yourself wow.. I tried way too hard...
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Re: Poor Man's Pod Help, Please [Re: Buddaking]
#26376519 - 12/12/19 04:53 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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The pmp is a gigantic piece of shit buried away in 10+ year old threads
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Re: Poor Man's Pod Help, Please [Re: bodhisatta]
#26376527 - 12/12/19 05:06 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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yes it is i totally agree. until i startrd with pans all the crap i wasted $ and time on was just sittin in the garage and although what i have i dont really count as a pmp cuz of the fans. but its working rather well for the pans but its still goin back in the garage as soon as i get my martha set up after the holidays when im on vacation. if i didnt live in chicago area its such a dry region this time of year id rathe be using a sgfc but with the thin substrates shit just drys out to quick when im gone damn near 16 hrs a day even in monos it just sucks the moisture rite out of the thinner subs here. but soon as the martha is up this things goin rite back to collecting dust in the garage. so belive us op when we tell u that a pmp will for the most part give u horrible results and at best it will still be sub par compared to other simpler methods
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Re: Poor Man's Pod Help, Please [Re: jcm4620]
#26376535 - 12/12/19 05:19 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I live in Wisconsin. Sgfc was literally made for worse. Washington state mountains. Cold and dry. Sgfc was the solution so RR could work 10+ hour days or be gone 2-3 day stretches
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Re: Poor Man's Pod Help, Please [Re: bodhisatta]
#26376563 - 12/12/19 06:02 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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i do not dis agree with u at all. i am just sayin its dry as hell here i live in a condo with shitty insulation so between the heating always kickin on and the dry winter air these thin subs just dry up waaaay too fast even runnin a cpl humidifiers dont help it wouldnt be so bad if i wssnt gone from 4 am - 6 pm every day. but its gttn me by til vacaion.
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