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Should I move my shoebox substrate to a larger container to fruit side pins? URGENT
#26375247 - 12/11/19 03:03 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've got tons of side pins despite keeping what I thought was good surface conditions. Obviously I messed up somewhere. I misted untill glistening and put the lid on upside down.
Should I just let first flush run its course or should I risk damaging the spawn and pins by transferring it to a larger terrarium.



*Edit: sub moved to a larger unmodified 72qt tub to fruit side pins 

Edited by Jpybot (12/13/19 09:39 AM)
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Re: Should I move my shoebox substrate to a larger container to fruit side pins? URGENT [Re: Jpybot]
#26375291 - 12/11/19 03:24 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes you should take it out of there and put it in a larger tote
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Re: Should I move my shoebox substrate to a larger container to fruit side pins? URGENT [Re: JohnRainy]
#26375385 - 12/11/19 03:57 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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That’s not really bad as far as side pins go. Are there any on the surface?
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Re: Should I move my shoebox substrate to a larger container to fruit side pins? URGENT [Re: A.k.a]
#26375701 - 12/11/19 06:14 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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A.k.a said: That’s not really bad as far as side pins go. Are there any on the surface?
No there's no pins on the surface. I've placed wax paper on top to see if that helps the microclimate at all.
Edited by Jpybot (12/11/19 06:15 PM)
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Re: Should I move my shoebox substrate to a larger container to fruit side pins? URGENT [Re: Jpybot]
#26375708 - 12/11/19 06:17 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pic of surface conditions?
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Re: Should I move my shoebox substrate to a larger container to fruit side pins? URGENT [Re: Feasoghorm]
#26375712 - 12/11/19 06:19 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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It won’t hurt if you have a good humidity chamber. Here’s one I had only side pins on and put in a HC.

Started out like this
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Re: Should I move my shoebox substrate to a larger container to fruit side pins? URGENT [Re: Feasoghorm]
#26376127 - 12/11/19 09:47 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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GypsyCurse said: Pic of surface conditions?
  You don't see droplets on my surface, but it does glisten and look "wet". Tbh it looks kinda like it's pooling I might dry it off with some paper towels. I was staying on top of misting whenever the surface got dry, I cant believe I got 0 surface pins. I allowed the tub to colonize with the lid closed, then flipped it at around 90%. I'll be adding a liner next time.
Unless you think otherwise I'm going to let this tub run its course. I think there's enough pins near the surface to make it out from the side.
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Re: Should I move my shoebox substrate to a larger container to fruit side pins? URGENT [Re: A.k.a]
#26376143 - 12/11/19 09:58 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm not sure what you mean about a humidity chamber. Do you mean just another container with perlite to keep the rh up?
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Re: Should I move my shoebox substrate to a larger container to fruit side pins? URGENT [Re: Jpybot]
#26376294 - 12/11/19 11:39 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Looks like bruising on the surface. Whatever caused that caused pins to not want to form there. Bruising cud be from physical abrasion or drying. Im guessing drying.
Humidity chamber = A space of high humidity The suggestion is that you build one, throw her in it and not harass her about where she's pinning. A.K.A showed a pic of his.
The reason she pinned sub surface level is cuz the conditions up top are not suitable.
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Re: Should I move my shoebox substrate to a larger container to fruit side pins? URGENT [Re: Feasoghorm]
#26376615 - 12/12/19 06:54 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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For mine I started with a trash bag with holes then moved it to a large tote with wet paper towels spread out on the bottoms or side, anything to keep humidity up.
How long has that been fruiting? It doesn’t look terrible to me I’d give it a couple more days to see what happens.
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Re: Should I move my shoebox substrate to a larger container to fruit side pins? URGENT [Re: A.k.a]
#26376633 - 12/12/19 07:09 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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A.k.a said: For mine I started with a trash bag with holes then moved it to a large tote with wet paper towels spread out on the bottoms or side, anything to keep humidity up.
How long has that been fruiting? It doesn’t look terrible to me I’d give it a couple more days to see what happens.
I hear coir works very well too...
If the dudea got ths means to fruit this thing in something bigger I definitely cant hurt...I wish I had done it with mine...thise side oins were such a pain and I feel like the smaller space between the walls hindered them from reaching their full potential..
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Re: Should I move my shoebox substrate to a larger container to fruit side pins? URGENT [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
#26376680 - 12/12/19 07:54 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah I think anything that hold water. I just fruited a BRF Cake in a shoebox with like half an inch of wet verm in it no problem.
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Re: Should I move my shoebox substrate to a larger container to fruit side pins? URGENT [Re: A.k.a]
#26376701 - 12/12/19 08:04 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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A.k.a said: Yeah I think anything that hold water. I just fruited a BRF Cake in a shoebox with like half an inch of wet verm in it no problem.
Ya as long as there is a sufficient amount of field capacity substrate in there itll work. And it takes a lot less then you would think. If he could just find a tub that would be maybe 2-5" bigger on all sides than the shoebox is I think ths sub would still provide enough water to keep the humidity with in range.
I just popped a brf cake mixed with coir that colonized inside of Tupperware then put inside another slightly larger Tupperware container and had awesome results. Got 4.5 Gs my first flush and I didnt mist it once...
Second flush is looking weak though. And the cool thing was I didn't have a single side pin, not even one! And I didnt mist it once either...
Not trying to hijack dudes post just showing him that all he needs is a slightly bigger container to fruit his sub like a cake..
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Re: Should I move my shoebox substrate to a larger container to fruit side pins? URGENT [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
#26378666 - 12/13/19 08:02 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for all the replies, I was bed ridden yesterday with some kind of cold so I just left it be. It's a shame because there's a nice pinset but it's all on the sides. I'll use my hand and just flip the substrate out and put it in a 60qt tub with a wet towel. I'll post pictures when I'm done.
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Re: Should I move my shoebox substrate to a larger container to fruit side pins? URGENT [Re: Jpybot]
#26378750 - 12/13/19 09:05 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Here's the substrate in a new tub. It might be a little too big but we'll see what happens. Do you think I should add a top casing? I've got some verm I can sprinkle on top and most. It took a little persuasion to get it out of the tub. I bent the side outward to help release it while flipped upside down.

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Re: Should I move my shoebox substrate to a larger container to fruit side pins? URGENT [Re: Jpybot]
#26379115 - 12/13/19 12:01 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I’m not sure if verm would help, doesn’t seem like it could hurt though.
Hopefully it works out man good luck.
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