Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: North Spore Injection Grain Bag   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
OfflineShroombieNoom
Dabbler
Male

Registered: 10/19/19
Posts: 63
Loc: Cascadia
Last seen: 3 years, 10 months
Reusable stainless lids?
    #26374673 - 12/11/19 09:27 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I know lots of people swear by using plastic lids for their grain jars, and others swear by the standard metal canning lids (the metal disk + ring), but I'm curious if anyone has used the re-usable 1-piece stainless steel lids that you can buy for canning jars?

Lids like these.

Like the plastic lids, they're not made for canning specifically, but I'm guessing they can withstand pressure cooking (like the plastic lids seem to be able to). And they have a silicone ring on the inside to help create an airtight seal (but not the heat seal that the actual canning lids give you). And they look like they'd be fairly easy to mod for a SHIP/FAE.

Any experience? Worth it?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinefeldman114
Stragler


Registered: 09/06/19
Posts: 3,365
Loc: Bravos
Last seen: 3 years, 9 months
Re: Reusable stainless lids? [Re: ShroombieNoom]
    #26374681 - 12/11/19 09:32 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Well most people who use plastic lids like the fact that you don’t have to modify them. If there’s an airtight seal, that goes out the window,
Metal lids can get rusty, which wouldn’t be less of a problem with these.

G2g might be a bit easierπŸ€·πŸ»β€β™‚οΈ


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineShroombieNoom
Dabbler
Male

Registered: 10/19/19
Posts: 63
Loc: Cascadia
Last seen: 3 years, 10 months
Re: Reusable stainless lids? [Re: feldman114]
    #26374690 - 12/11/19 09:36 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I think a lot of people mod their plastic lids to put air exchange filters and SHIPs on them (I see tons of pics of those on this forum).

These metal lids are stainless, so no rust, and no risk of melting in the PC (I see posts about warping/melting/degradation of plastic lids on this forum too).


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleAyePlusS
Stony Danza
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/18/14
Posts: 3,393
Loc: Fairfield, Connecticut
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Reusable stainless lids? [Re: ShroombieNoom] * 1
    #26374702 - 12/11/19 09:41 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I have metal one piece lids like that. They work great, but so do the rusty ones and the modified plastic lids I have. The name brand ones survive the PC just fine, theyre PP5
If you ever have a mite outbreak you’ll reconsider unmodified lids. I use silicone seal rings in all mine, and Verum wraps all of his.


Those you linked are expensive AF

These ones come with the hole already made and are cheaper, they are for regular mouth but I bey you can find the wide mouth version.

Save yourself another step, just throw a sfd under it or silicone one on.


--------------------
Learn about breeding

C10’s agar guide
Good surface conditions = Good pinsets
Read more, post less.
πŸ…‚ πŸ„° πŸ„Ό πŸ„΄  πŸ…ƒ πŸ„΄ πŸ„° πŸ„Ό
πŸ…ƒ πŸ„΄ πŸ„° πŸ„Ό  πŸ„² πŸ„» πŸ„Έ πŸ„½ πŸ„Ά πŸ…† πŸ… πŸ„° πŸ„Ώ


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineShroombieNoom
Dabbler
Male

Registered: 10/19/19
Posts: 63
Loc: Cascadia
Last seen: 3 years, 10 months
Re: Reusable stainless lids? [Re: AyePlus]
    #26374727 - 12/11/19 09:58 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Hey, thanks for the link AyePlus.

I usually do two holes in my lids -- one for the SHIP (which I make out of RTV) and one for a tyvek filter. But I know the heat seal on the standard lids degrades after even just a single round of PCing, so future seals aren't going to be as good.

That's why I'm looking for alternatives -- the silicone gasket isn't supposed to be a perfect seal (like the heat seal for canning), but should be way better than just a plain plastic lid with no gasket in it.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleTeaforTwo
Flight Attendant
I'm a teapot


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 09/22/19
Posts: 1,005
Loc: Psychonaut City, Mile Hi!
Re: Reusable stainless lids? [Re: ShroombieNoom]
    #26374739 - 12/11/19 10:05 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

we have some ss one piece lids, i like them but rpita to drill thru... your link does have a nice center hole for straw option, for additional cost, could remove that silicone plug and GE filter that very nicely.

have only used them once, went with full SFD under lid, no silicone ring and they were pretty tough to loosen after a month colonizing. I suspect it could be even more difficult to remove with silicone seal so give them a couple tests loosen from a crank down before you leave them tightened down for a month of colonizing to see if you want the seal or not.


--------------------
See a mush cult pic you love? add it here: January 2020 PoM nominations thread! (up vote your faves to ensure they are included in final vote!). Community selected winner receives a 6mo Supporter account upgrade and/or other prizes from our awesome admin team!

Looking for something? Try Psilosopherr's Tek Compendium and pixelpopper's essentialzzz ForTheWin!

Be well, friend. Stay Strong and Beautiful, Always, and in All Ways~
Look Forward, Seek Truth, Find Real, Go Further~


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleAyePlusS
Stony Danza
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/18/14
Posts: 3,393
Loc: Fairfield, Connecticut
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Reusable stainless lids? [Re: ShroombieNoom]
    #26374741 - 12/11/19 10:07 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

These are the silicone rings I use


Havent run too many PC cycles with them yet but no noticeable difference after 2-3


I used to make all my lids with ships too, but I soon realized that g2g is superior for my purposes for quite a few reasons. But mainly the added vector of the outside of the port and speed of colonization. I wouldnt use liquids for a hobby grow, if I was going to grow commercially I’d consider it again, but still wouldn't use ships, just open the lid in a SAB or in front of a FH.


--------------------
Learn about breeding

C10’s agar guide
Good surface conditions = Good pinsets
Read more, post less.
πŸ…‚ πŸ„° πŸ„Ό πŸ„΄  πŸ…ƒ πŸ„΄ πŸ„° πŸ„Ό
πŸ…ƒ πŸ„΄ πŸ„° πŸ„Ό  πŸ„² πŸ„» πŸ„Έ πŸ„½ πŸ„Ά πŸ…† πŸ… πŸ„° πŸ„Ώ


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineThe Mycologist
Explorer

Registered: 05/06/16
Posts: 3,024
Last seen: 29 days, 8 hours
Re: Reusable stainless lids? [Re: ShroombieNoom]
    #26374744 - 12/11/19 10:08 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)



--------------------
"That you are hereβ€”that life exists, and identity;
That the powerful play goes on, and you will contribute a verse.”
― Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass
:acidfire::tmckenna:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleTeaforTwo
Flight Attendant
I'm a teapot


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 09/22/19
Posts: 1,005
Loc: Psychonaut City, Mile Hi!
Re: Reusable stainless lids? [Re: The Mycologist] * 1
    #26374753 - 12/11/19 10:15 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

^^
Quote:

I want to say that for the most part, this method is really just a stopgap. Like you just picked up a dozen jars and lids but now got no SFD kicking around and don't feel like charging the drill battery. So ya get busy any way and make em proper when your order of SFD's arrive. I am by no means endorsing this over proper filtered lids.




--------------------
See a mush cult pic you love? add it here: January 2020 PoM nominations thread! (up vote your faves to ensure they are included in final vote!). Community selected winner receives a 6mo Supporter account upgrade and/or other prizes from our awesome admin team!

Looking for something? Try Psilosopherr's Tek Compendium and pixelpopper's essentialzzz ForTheWin!

Be well, friend. Stay Strong and Beautiful, Always, and in All Ways~
Look Forward, Seek Truth, Find Real, Go Further~


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: North Spore Injection Grain Bag   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* plastic lids?????? zxsevinr 969 3 10/01/04 09:29 PM
by KaptKid
* 8 oz snap on lid jars sirJ 1,061 4 06/26/02 08:35 PM
by Roadkill
* Cheap permeant jar lid filter.
( 1 2 3 all )
SixTango 12,298 52 01/29/03 09:31 AM
by shroomologist
* rusted jar tops reusable? madsickpenguin 1,694 8 11/28/04 12:00 AM
by Psychoslut
* plastic lids and tyvek position ~stalled jars GnuBobo 2,427 5 04/05/05 12:31 AM
by GnuBobo
* Removing Stuck Plastic Wide-Mouth Jar Lids Oscuro_lobo 4,154 9 05/05/03 03:31 PM
by SixTango
* will the plastic lids for canning jars made by Ball melt in the PC? cottlestonpie 1,706 8 02/23/05 09:53 PM
by Dem_Bones
* bulk jar lids? Anonymous 852 5 11/25/02 05:19 PM
by Anonymous

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
337 topic views. 19 members, 161 guests and 47 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.02 seconds spending 0.005 seconds on 12 queries.