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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Yuggoth]
#28281628 - 04/17/23 06:50 AM (9 months, 7 days ago) |
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Pretty sure these are what I bought but got them on Amazon. Can't be 100% sure though.
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: myc_ousin_vinny]
#28281999 - 04/17/23 12:00 PM (9 months, 7 days ago) |
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myc_ousin_vinny said: Pretty sure these are what I bought but got them on Amazon. Can't be 100% sure though.
Good link, thanks. Are they working out for you? They smaller than OP's at 2" x 0.7" vs 2.6" x 1", but maybe that is fine. People use even smaller condiment cups.
They are a LOT cheaper than the larger version ... 20 for $9 instead of $13 for 8. Plus the bigger ones are out of stock anyway.
I started going through checkout to see what the final charges might be like.
As a new user you are given a $5 coupon, which ain't bad. Shipping costs to my corner of the USA are $7... not great, not terrible. If I add another set, shipping increases to about $10. So, it ends up being less than fifty cents per container.
I was unable to find them on Amazon... Maybe I will try these.
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Yuggoth]
#28282022 - 04/17/23 12:24 PM (9 months, 7 days ago) |
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I bought those BeeBee Craft containers, they're working out fine. I don't think the visibility is great but they stand up to the PC just fine, I've forgotten to unscrew them several times and never had an issue with deforming.
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Yuggoth]
#28282064 - 04/17/23 01:02 PM (9 months, 7 days ago) |
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myc_ousin_vinny said: Pretty sure these are what I bought but got them on Amazon. Can't be 100% sure though.
Good link, thanks. Are they working out for you? They smaller than OP's at 2" x 0.7" vs 2.6" x 1", but maybe that is fine. People use even smaller condiment cups.
They are a LOT cheaper than the larger version ... 20 for $9 instead of $13 for 8. Plus the bigger ones are out of stock anyway.
I started going through checkout to see what the final charges might be like.
As a new user you are given a $5 coupon, which ain't bad. Shipping costs to my corner of the USA are $7... not great, not terrible. If I add another set, shipping increases to about $10. So, it ends up being less than fifty cents per container.
I was unable to find them on Amazon... Maybe I will try these.
Yeah, I didn't realize they were smaller. Like has been mentioned, the visibility isn't as good as glass but it's decent enough to identify contam in my opinion.
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: myc_ousin_vinny]
#28282072 - 04/17/23 01:11 PM (9 months, 7 days ago) |
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Cool, thanks. If I try out these smaller ones I'll post a follow-up.
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Yuggoth]
#28282560 - 04/17/23 06:36 PM (9 months, 7 days ago) |
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Yuggoth said: I tried something different and reported some observations. I’m not criticizing OP, the post was very helpful.
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Yuggoth said: if for no other reason that the wobbly stacking, these are no "holy grail" containers.
This denotes criticism if you ask me. I'm not sure how else to interpret it. Perhaps you were only referencing your own plates/method, in which case the ambiguity mixed with the dominant theme of this thread implies criticism directed at the OP regardless (intended or not).
Don't take this personally. I'm a blunt and pedantic fuck, but I'm also unapologetic. It's all in a collaborative spirit, I assure you 
I just think the holy grail status stands despite your assertion
Anyways, I'm all for trying new things regardless 
Edited by Rhizomorph (04/17/23 06:44 PM)
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Rhizomorph]
#28282569 - 04/17/23 06:42 PM (9 months, 7 days ago) |
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Rhizomorph said: This denotes criticism if you ask me. I'm not sure how else to interpret it
I apologize, perhaps my posts were not clear.
I tried a different container, which was not endorsed OP, and I didn't care for it.
If you still find that to be a criticism of OP then I am pretty confused, but I will stop posting about alternates.
Edited by Yuggoth (04/17/23 06:45 PM)
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Yuggoth]
#28282578 - 04/17/23 06:46 PM (9 months, 7 days ago) |
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I gotcha now. All good 
No need to stop posting about alternatives. I think it just needed some clarification so it didn't seem like you were criticizing the original plates
Edited by Rhizomorph (04/17/23 06:49 PM)
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Rhizomorph]
#28282594 - 04/17/23 06:59 PM (9 months, 7 days ago) |
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Not at all, they look great. I'd happily buy them if they were still available!
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Yuggoth]
#28282711 - 04/17/23 08:33 PM (9 months, 7 days ago) |
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I'm about ready to to try out no pours, and picked up a few more packs of these twist and store containers from target. To hold me over until I get a large box of HGs. I can just go ahead treat them just like the HG bead containers you guys use, right? Or, is it best to mod them with a filtered port? Just go finger tight?
Thanks!
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: PsillySeeEms] 2
#28282721 - 04/17/23 08:42 PM (9 months, 7 days ago) |
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I'm about ready to to try out no pours, and picked up a few more packs of these twist and store containers from target. To hold me over until I get a large box of HGs. I can just go ahead treat them just like the HG bead containers you guys use, right? Or, is it best to mod them with a filtered port? Just go finger tight?
Thanks!
I think those will work fine. They don’t need to be crazy tight to keep out contams in my experience. The threads do a good job of that.
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: myc_ousin_vinny]
#28282802 - 04/17/23 09:28 PM (9 months, 7 days ago) |
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They almost fit perfect inside bush's baked bean cans too. 3 in a family sized can. I can slide the cans right down over the top of the stacks in my IP, but then I can only run 4 stacks of 3, because I can't quite fit 5 cans, unless I really grind them up or something. I think they would hold up to many cycles before rusting out, and I can replace them often. Is having the extra sleeve/vessel worthwhile, or should i go ahead and cram 14 (only 2 extra) of those containers at once, and just run it without the can sleeves?
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: PsillySeeEms] 1
#28321462 - 05/16/23 05:41 AM (8 months, 9 days ago) |
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If you need a metal sleeve, why not go to the hardware store and buy some 3 inch galvanized vent pipe? They are cheap, available in many lengths and they make caps for the ends. Cut them to length and you could stack the jars as high as your PC will allow. I bet you could put at least 8 or 10 of them in a presto with what 6 or 7 jars in each one?
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: sprocket]
#28322381 - 05/16/23 07:44 PM (8 months, 9 days ago) |
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Not sure I really trust using galv sheet metal in the same little instant pot deal that I cook in sometimes. At least the cans are "food grade". I found out many more food items that use the same size cans too. I do like that idea, and already have some ducting in many sizes. Should I not worry about using anything galvanized, and leeching or anything while being pressure cooked? I def don't like grinding and welding with it, that's for sure.. The brand new galv garbage can I started using as a paper trash burn bin took awhile to burn off.. and not smell funny anymore
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#28322401 - 05/16/23 07:59 PM (8 months, 9 days ago) |
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PsillySeeEms said: Not sure I really trust using galv sheet metal in the same little instant pot deal that I cook in sometimes. At least the cans are "food grade". I found out many more food items that use the same size cans too. I do like that idea, and already have some ducting in many sizes. Should I not worry about using anything galvanized, and leeching or anything while being pressure cooked? I def don't like grinding and welding with it, that's for sure.. The brand new galv garbage can I started using as a paper trash burn bin took awhile to burn off.. and not smell funny anymore 
Fair enough. You can get aluminum tubing in the same size and definitely stainless steel (used for exhaust pipes) and plain steel tubing, but they are much more expensive. I can't imagine the galvanized coating being an issue at the temperatures we work with for sterilization, but who knows.
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: sprocket] 1
#28322438 - 05/16/23 08:15 PM (8 months, 9 days ago) |
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I have aluminum tubing\ducting\fittings\etc in a few different size too. 2,3,4+ inch. Some rigid, some flexible. In that case, couldn't you just use 2 tall beer cans sleeved around the stack of containers with a makeshift cap? I've seen beer cans that were way wider, probably the right size, without even cutting. Either way, I'll look into aluminum for my next set, once my cans rust out too bad
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#28322553 - 05/16/23 09:54 PM (8 months, 9 days ago) |
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PsillySeeEms said: I have aluminum tubing\ducting\fittings\etc in a few different size too. 2,3,4+ inch. Some rigid, some flexible. In that case, couldn't you just use 2 tall beer cans sleeved around the stack of containers with a makeshift cap? I've seen beer cans that were way wider, probably the right size, without even cutting. Either way, I'll look into aluminum for my next set, once my cans rust out too bad 
Use one of the big Forster's lager oil cans, they should be big enough for the cups.
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: sprocket] 2
#28322616 - 05/16/23 11:16 PM (8 months, 8 days ago) |
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According to Some Dude on Reddit galvanized metal does not offgas until you hit temps much higher than a pressure cooker will hit.
https://old.reddit.com/r/blacksmithing/comments/3ch3h6/built_a_homemade_bbq_what_temperature_does/csw9jyz/
I'd look up a primary source but ... my intuition is that 250F in a PC is going to be well below the danger zone for galvanization.
BTW food-grade cans are lined with plastic. The melting point also seems to be much higher than what a PC will hit, but it's a similar issue.
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Yuggoth]
#28323640 - 05/17/23 05:22 PM (8 months, 8 days ago) |
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Might as well go all out and use copper, or even silver or titanium, lol. Would the copper/silver help to thwart off contams? JK, but how about making high temp silicone cylinders in a mold instead of metal or plastic?
Would it be a bad Idea to modify/weld a 3 inch SS pipe right to the top of an instant pot or other SS pressure cooker lid, and just load it up like a magazine? Put the vent on the cap/lid to the pipe instead. Fill the cooker with water to the top, but also make the pipe (or dual pipes, quad?) long enough to load a huge stacks of whatever containers you use. Like, be able to run 200 instead of 20 at a time with a 6qt Instantpot, that's automatically controlled, and the pipes welded to the lid.
I know you can stack quite a few containers in most decent sized pressure cookers, even with the sleeves, but I can't help but see how much more efficient it would be to have some kind of manifold that you just twist lock the tubes right into or something. The tubes not only being the sleeve, but the main pressure vessel itself.
I'm just getting started, so we'll see what I can come up with. Perfect np plates every time with no condensation can't be that hard to achieve..right?
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: PsillySeeEms]
#28325283 - 05/18/23 06:27 PM (8 months, 7 days ago) |
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