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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: ReverendMyc]
#27266612 - 03/23/21 07:55 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm using painters tape and writing on the tape.
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: jay.ach]
#27266903 - 03/24/21 02:26 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Adhesive remover works even better than iso to remove Sharpie. No elbow grease required. But I guess most of us already have plenty of iso knocking about.
I use white tape for my jars/tubs but just write directly on plates. Best of both worlds I guess.
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: kidcharlemagne]
#27268344 - 03/25/21 05:19 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Tough tags brand labels.
Autoclavable, easily removable from glass or plastic and you can print on them.
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Norsern_vind]
#27268566 - 03/25/21 08:59 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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General tip for permanent markers:
If you’re writing on a surface that’s appropriate for dry erase markers, you can actually use the dry erase marker to remove permanent marker. Just write over the permanent marker, wait a little, and erase. The solvent or whatever in the dry erase markers makes the permanent marker come right off, depending on the surface.
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Aablmd82]
#27268657 - 03/25/21 09:55 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Aablmd82 said: General tip for permanent markers:
If you’re writing on a surface that’s appropriate for dry erase markers, you can actually use the dry erase marker to remove permanent marker. Just write over the permanent marker, wait a little, and erase. The solvent or whatever in the dry erase markers makes the permanent marker come right off, depending on the surface.
I am sure that what you are saying is true, but if is not, it is the greatest myc prank ever!

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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: ReverendMyc]
#27268851 - 03/25/21 12:52 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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+1 on team sharpie and iso.
I have yet to run Mr. Alien's containers, BUT I just scored three fkn tanqueray tins that will fit my deli dishes, fkn psyched.
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: seldom seen]
#27274071 - 03/29/21 07:44 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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For those who bought the benecreat from BeeBeeCrafts, how was dealing with that company in terms of shipping time? I'm on East coast US.
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: kidcharlemagne]
#27274799 - 03/29/21 05:34 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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For me, that I bought them on Amazon, it took me 2 months to arrive, but worth it. I think beeBeeCrafts are from China and you know, all stuff for china takes 1 month in the US or 2 months in Mexico to arrive.
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#27274971 - 03/29/21 08:10 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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BeeBeeCrafts used free FedEx shipping when I ordered because the order was above 50 if I recall correctly. It arrived fairly quickly at my doorstep in South America, I think couple weeks at most.
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: jomanda1990]
#27275033 - 03/29/21 09:09 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey so I just started using these. They are really good and easy. No messing with foil/paper towels like the pasty plates + good visibility.
What would you say is the best way to use these to inoculate grain jars? I've been transfering them to pasty plates to tiger drop, but I wonder if there is a better way.
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: arpeggiator]
#27275088 - 03/29/21 09:55 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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take a wedge and knock up a jar
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: cronicr]
#27275155 - 03/29/21 11:32 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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How big should the wedge be? Can it ever be too small so that the mycelium can't take over a quart jar?
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: arpeggiator]
#27275174 - 03/30/21 12:13 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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arpeggiator said: How big should the wedge be? Can it ever be too small so that the mycelium can't take over a quart jar?
Nah, not IME at least. A larger wedge can speed up colonization somewhat but even a dime-sized wedge does the trick.
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: arpeggiator]
#27275181 - 03/30/21 12:25 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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arpeggiator said: Hey so I just started using these. They are really good and easy. No messing with foil/paper towels like the pasty plates + good visibility.
What would you say is the best way to use these to inoculate grain jars? I've been transfering them to pasty plates to tiger drop, but I wonder if there is a better way.
The best way is tiger drop, this is why pasty plates are still a thing among growers, because they have that great utility, but if you wanted to do it without the tiger drop, only using HGs, I would say the pizza slices are easier to transfer that the whole wedge, you could cut a WIDE pizza slice.
Also, from experience, the 10ml per container recipe is too thin and the sharp edge of scalpel might slide through the wedge, meaning it doesn't have enough rigidity, 30ml per container (aka HG slants) are too thick, I think the sweet spot is 20ml per container and wide pizza wedges.
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#27275184 - 03/30/21 12:29 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks! Yeah I've been pouring them too thin. My scapel cuts right through and the agar seems to be stuck to the bottom of the container so it's hard to scoop out the agar wedge.
Still I am really loving this! Thank you for this tek.
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: arpeggiator]
#27275222 - 03/30/21 01:56 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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arpeggiator said: Thanks! Yeah I've been pouring them too thin. My scapel cuts right through and the agar seems to be stuck to the bottom of the container so it's hard to scoop out the agar wedge.
Still I am really loving this! Thank you for this tek.
Yes, and when you manage to scoop it out, it slices through the sharp edge of the scalpel, and it falls. 20ml is more objective for large wedge transfers because of the rigidness, 10 ml is good for very small wedge transfers to other HG plates.
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#27275548 - 03/30/21 09:30 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
arpeggiator said: Hey so I just started using these. They are really good and easy. No messing with foil/paper towels like the pasty plates + good visibility.
What would you say is the best way to use these to inoculate grain jars? I've been transfering them to pasty plates to tiger drop, but I wonder if there is a better way.
I do either two or three straight slices to end up with three or four larger, straight, "noodles" of agar and use the scalpel to pick them up and put them in the jar. I then shake it up and usually at least one of them breaks up a bit for a tigerdrop-like experience.
It's not as good as tiger drop/tic tac toe drop since you don't have as many inoculation points, but you don't have to do an extra transfer and also have pasty plates on-hand and prepped.
You also have the ability to then use one of those slices for a transfer to something else, whereas with a tiger drop you end up dumping the whole thing.
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: karri0n]
#27275688 - 03/30/21 11:56 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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I apologize if this is the wrong place to post. I know this is for unmodified containers. I did not want to bump a really thread.
I ran into an issue on a PC run with no-pour agar jars. They all came out ok except for one on the bottom literally got filled up with water. It's a first for me. I ran them all with SFD between lid and ring, covered with foil. What could cause this? Did I fill the PC too much? Did I steam vent too long? I'm assuming the SFD is fine and can be reused.
Also, are we cooking our agar twice (once before and during PC) or just once in the PC? Really excited to start up some clones and stop noccing up grain with syringes!
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: ShamanicRevival]
#27275768 - 03/30/21 01:09 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Was the trivet/rack of the pressure cooker sufficiently above the water level? Perhaps that was the cause.
As for the second question, agar is only PCed once, either for pre-pour or post-pour. If by "cook" you are referring to the mixing process too, then yeah. Personally I just heat up some water and mix the ingredients (agar, nutes, coloring, etc.) while avoiding agar from clumping as much as possible. Then pour into Holy Grails and PC.
Btw I love my HGs and the Argentinian mini HGs. They are both extremely convenient for agar. Thanks a lot MrAlien and Sankhara.
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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: jomanda1990]
#27275975 - 03/30/21 03:50 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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jomanda1990 said: Was the trivet/rack of the pressure cooker sufficiently above the water level? Perhaps that was the cause.
You're probably correct. My rack isn't very high and I'm always concerned the PC will run dry. But damn the jar was full, almost like water got sucked in and it was just 1 of 15.
Next time I'll cut back on water or perhaps raise my rack with lid rings. Thanks for chiming in! Appreciate you sharing your experience.
Edited by ShamanicRevival (03/30/21 03:51 PM)
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