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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26562906 - 03/28/20 10:40 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)


Edit: Sorry for getting off topic alien.
Here is a plate I put to grain a few days ago, just starting to see leap off.
I’m excited to try a new variety cant wait to see how it performs.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: staytrippy420]
    #26565393 - 03/29/20 02:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Looks awesome.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #26568625 - 03/31/20 08:34 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Camera93]
    #26568652 - 03/31/20 08:51 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hehe you should have ordered more.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #26568654 - 03/31/20 08:54 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I have 16 at home already lol


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Camera93]
    #26593182 - 04/11/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks alien, these are great!
So much better than bulky food containers, I can fit so many in my tiny PC.

I am getting zero condensation on some, and a manageable amount on the rest and I'm not using a container to hold them in the PC, they are not clearing up for me on their own though even after a couple of weeks, might be the humidity here.
The condensation does tend to dry out during incubation (with the lid closed tight) leaving a bit of residue where the drops were, so by the time I need to see what's going inside they are perfectly visible.
I use the old hot cup of water on the lid trick on some to get a few super clear plates, then pour out the pooling water in the SAB before using them, this is probably detrimental but I do it anyway.




brf/verm HG puck because I was only getting bacteria on agar with this syringe, used a single drop.



I have a couple of noob questions if that's ok.
1. How much should I clean them before inserting to the SAB? Currently I wipe each one with an alcohol soaked paper towel all over, especially under the lip of the lid and put it in the SAB still wet.
2. They keep moving around when I try to take a transfer if I don't hold them still but I can't manage to hold the lid and the bottom with my left hand at the same time, any suggestion?
3. In the SAB, should I open the top and replace it loose one at a time immediately before transferring to them or untwist a whole bunch, do a couple of transfers and then close them?

I'm also being super careful not to mix lids, I wonder if that's really necessary, any input?


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: jackrabbitcytoplas] * 1
    #26593595 - 04/11/20 02:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Here is Holy Grail life hack.



Found them at dollar tree. They hold 8 HG. You can load quite a few of these in the PC. I only got 5. But hey that's 40 HG in one run with just the 5 I have.
You could probably fit 7-9 of the glass vases in the PC. I'm not sure.

That's more room than my 1/2gallon pickle jars which hold same amount of HG. 8.

I haven't ran these thru a cycle yet. Just thought I would share.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26595124 - 04/12/20 06:40 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Just foil the top and go?  Nice. 

I wonder if they'll have the limited condensation problems that eat attributes to pressure being on the them from pressing them in a quart jar since the foil wouldn't exert any pressure..

Let us know?


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Hobbyist]
    #26595286 - 04/12/20 08:56 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I’m curious how those tall glasses work too.

My last run i used quart jars and it was no good.

I had a few clear ones but most ended up going bacterial from the excess condensation. :thumbdown:

Weird tho because my first run came out fine. Idk what I did different this time :shrug:


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: staytrippy420]
    #26595540 - 04/12/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quart jars worked better for me with the plastic lids. I stacked them as high as they could go. When the lid is closed it pushes down on the top plate and seems to help a little. Best thing I’ve found is to unscrew lids a notch and let em sit a few days to a week and then the condensation goes away. I’ve also let some sit too long and dried out the agar a little. But the growth slows due to this but actually looks very nice and even.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: eatyualive]
    #26595604 - 04/12/20 11:47 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hmm I was concerned the top plate lid would get warped from being pressed down and under heat... but if it’s working for you I might as well stuff them in there.

Ive been using a normal quart jar lid with the gasket flipped up side down.

My last run cleared up in less than a week but this time a few had bacterial smears from the excess condescension drops running across the agar. :shrug:

I’m gona do another run latter today or tomorrow.
I’ll try the quart jar one more time before I try something new.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: staytrippy420]
    #26599347 - 04/14/20 12:30 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I did have a few get bacteria around the edges before I opened them and I think it was because I wasn't elevating the trivet enough and what from the pc was splashing up into the jars and the jar had pooling water in the lid. idk how this caused contamination but maybe the handling while hot and the water somehow sucking/dripping into the container past the threads... I didn't check for sure but I am 99% it was the bottom two plates in the jar that got bacteria.:shrug:

Since I started elevating the trivet with 8 oz jars so the plates are well above the water I haven't seen this and the pooling in the jar lid is minimal....

I have done my last two batches without jars and just stacked them, I think 8 high, directly on the trivet. I just made sure they were stacked nice and even and all stacks in the middle of the pc away from the sides. I think I got the least condensation from that method but they do come out a little wet on the outsides but they dry off pretty quick as I unload them while hot. I do it in front of my hood so they dry a bit faster.

then I put them into 1/2 gallon jars and pickle jars or the tin nutcracker to cool. I leave the half gallon jar lids cracked so the remaining water can evaporate while they slowly cool.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: tombosley8]
    #26599364 - 04/14/20 12:49 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I did have a few get bacteria around the edges before I opened them




This issue was solved for me by increasing sterilization times. Now i do 1 hour at 17 PSI. 25 minutes is just not enough sometimes. I will change the OP.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Mr. Alien] * 1
    #26599626 - 04/14/20 06:34 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I elevate the metal plate with half pint jars out of the water and put the plates on that. Then there are no plates touching water.



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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: eatyualive]
    #26599998 - 04/14/20 10:01 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I elevate the metal plate with half pint jars out of the water and put the plates on that. Then there are no plates touching water.





So this is how u do it now?
Dont cover them? Just keep stacking them li(e that out of the water


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26600386 - 04/14/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I did them exactly like EYA's pic with no issues except I did 6 stacks of 8 in the middle away from the edges of the pc. only pc'd 35 min but:shrug: maybe we'll see some late blooming bacteria. it's been a week though and usually I would see it by then.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: tombosley8]
    #26600401 - 04/14/20 12:42 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Condensation is ok when stacked like that


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26600484 - 04/14/20 01:11 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Decided to get on board and said fuck the jar.
Vent for 10. Pc for 20. :rockon:



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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: staytrippy420]
    #26600977 - 04/14/20 04:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hobbit, I’ve done it that way, I’ve done it with the metal cookie tin, I’ve done it with mason jars, I’ve done it with wet rags on top.

To me, stacking them, then placing something on top of the stack whether it is, the lid of your quart jar pressing down firmly or something on the top plate lid lessens condensation by a little. I don’t really worry to much about it. What works best is after your plates have cooled, you loosen the lids and let em sit for a few days up to a week. I keep mine in a steel storage cabinet that is fairly draft free. I have been having some agar drying issues doing this. I unscrew the lids almost 2 turns. I’m going to start only loosening them one turn. Usually I only have issues when I forget to turn the kids back to the right position and let them sit more than a week.

I never oc agar or LI jars of water more than 30 mins at 15psi.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: staytrippy420]
    #26600998 - 04/14/20 04:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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Decided to get on board and said fuck the jar.
Vent for 10. Pc for 20. :rockon:






These ones came out decent. A few of the middle ones had no condensation and the rest will clear up by the time I need to use them.

A full turn seems a little much Eat.. I only crack them open a touch and close them up soon as they are dry.


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