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Shroomerd00d
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Coco Coir ONLY, start to finish 2
#26373143 - 12/10/19 01:30 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Boop - you fuckers are toxic and dont deserve this tek so eat shit Mod edit. He put agar to coir with no grain
Edited by cronicr (01/04/20 09:50 PM)
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Re: Coco Coir ONLY, start to finish [Re: Shroomerd00d]
#26373153 - 12/10/19 01:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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feldman114
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Re: Coco Coir ONLY, start to finish [Re: mushboy]
#26373161 - 12/10/19 01:39 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Holy shit...if true, OP could be onto something huge here.
I thought we have to use grain spawn cause coir has a low nutrient content.
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LadysKnight
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Re: Coco Coir ONLY, start to finish [Re: Shroomerd00d]
#26373183 - 12/10/19 01:49 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm assuming you don't shake the jars to speed colonization either?
So if no contams, how many flushes do you get?
Have you tried mixing spawn with sub or only spot spawning into the tub?
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Re: Coco Coir ONLY, start to finish [Re: mushboy]
#26373196 - 12/10/19 01:54 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
mushboy said:

-------------------- "That you are here—that life exists, and identity; That the powerful play goes on, and you will contribute a verse.” ― Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass

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Re: Coco Coir ONLY, start to finish [Re: feldman114]
#26373199 - 12/10/19 01:56 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well the traditional reason for using grain spawn is several-fold; its an excellent food source for the mushies, it provides lots of air gaps, it makes spawn more manageable into something like seed-form which we humans like, easily broken up, its nicely encapsulated, cheap and incredibly abundant...
but yea. I'm going to keep going with this coir-only method as it makes a lot of sense to me, but we'll see. I don't even know what to do with all these shrooms man, I think I'll start experimenting with extracts. I saw a video on making risotto, where they soak dry mushrooms in water overnight and squeeze them out the next day to get a very strong broth, thinking I'll try that with the magic kind and see about evaporating the water...
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Re: Coco Coir ONLY, start to finish [Re: Shroomerd00d]
#26373219 - 12/10/19 02:06 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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M’kay, risotto is great, but you gonna poast pics or wut? Lol don’t leave us hanging here...
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Re: Coco Coir ONLY, start to finish [Re: LadysKnight]
#26373227 - 12/10/19 02:10 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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You can TOTALLY shake the jars. Just dont wait too long or it gets a bit more difficult yea. I usually shake around 30-50%
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Re: Coco Coir ONLY, start to finish [Re: Shroomerd00d]
#26373231 - 12/10/19 02:10 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is something I want to believe, but also seems too good to be true. Pics please!
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feldman114
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Re: Coco Coir ONLY, start to finish [Re: Growtech]
#26373237 - 12/10/19 02:13 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wouldn’t shaking get your filter wet? Deff can’t shake if you use poly, right?
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Re: Coco Coir ONLY, start to finish [Re: feldman114]
#26373241 - 12/10/19 02:14 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Seems reasonable to me given that we spawn to coir to such a large degree and that RR has said coir is nutricious, cronicr has said something to that degree, cant remeber exactly what
I have 2-3 pure coir jars but they are hella slow to colonize

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OP edited his OP
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Re: Coco Coir ONLY, start to finish [Re: meaculpaUIO]
#26373243 - 12/10/19 02:15 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fungi love coir
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  It doesn't matter what i think of you...all that matters is clean spawn I'm tired do me a favor
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Re: Coco Coir ONLY, start to finish [Re: meaculpaUIO]
#26373247 - 12/10/19 02:17 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
meaculpaUIO said: Seems reasonable to me given that we spawn to coir to such a large degree and that RR has said coir is nutricious, cronicr has said something to that degree, cant remeber exactly what
I have 2-3 pure coir jars but they are hella slow to colonize
Of course you do lol. I’d rub it in everyone’s face if I was you. At least 1 instance of you “crazy” experiments working for you, not against you. I don’t think I’m the only one who’s gonna want to try this myself, and you’re way ahead of us.
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Re: Coco Coir ONLY, start to finish [Re: cronicr]
#26373253 - 12/10/19 02:19 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
cronicr said: Fungi love coir
Well wtf is the point of using grain than? This is making my brain implode...
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Re: Coco Coir ONLY, start to finish [Re: feldman114]
#26373256 - 12/10/19 02:19 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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The TCs have been hustling us all the time
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Re: Coco Coir ONLY, start to finish [Re: feldman114]
#26373263 - 12/10/19 02:22 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
feldman114 said:
Quote:
cronicr said: Fungi love coir
Well wtf is the point of using grain than? This is making my brain implode...
Fungi love grain Mix them up
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Re: Coco Coir ONLY, start to finish [Re: meaculpaUIO]
#26373264 - 12/10/19 02:22 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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The coir shouldn't be 'wet', field capacity is where you take a fistful, squeeze the fuck out of it until maybe a dribble or so comes out.
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Re: Coco Coir ONLY, start to finish [Re: mushboy]
#26373269 - 12/10/19 02:25 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
meaculpaUIO said: The TCs have been hustling us all the time
Don't go believing everything you read lol.
Quote:
mushboy said:

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Re: Coco Coir ONLY, start to finish [Re: feldman114]
#26373272 - 12/10/19 02:27 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
feldman114 said:
Quote:
meaculpaUIO said: Seems reasonable to me given that we spawn to coir to such a large degree and that RR has said coir is nutricious, cronicr has said something to that degree, cant remeber exactly what
I have 2-3 pure coir jars but they are hella slow to colonize
Of course you do lol. I’d rub it in everyone’s face if I was you. At least 1 instance of you “crazy” experiments working for you, not against you. I don’t think I’m the only one who’s gonna want to try this myself, and you’re way ahead of us.

is anyone surprised by this? ofc I was running a few coir jars immediatly. all i read was that coir was substrate material and that it was best cooked. that was reason enough to try, and if the "pre eat " theory is correct your speeding up colonization when you
spawn coir to coir
@cronic and @mushboy:
he changed his OP to include pics*
Quote:
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Re: Coco Coir ONLY, start to finish [Re: feldman114]
#26373273 - 12/10/19 02:28 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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This sounds fun! Thinking of trying it as well. So far we have 1 replication of the jar colonizing part, by meaculpa, but it's very slow?
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