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How well can a person hide heroin addiction?
    #26373051 - 12/10/19 12:40 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

So a friend of mine was addicted to heroin for over a year, a couple years ago. We were all shocked when we found out. She'd hid it from her husband and family, held down her job as a carer, and cared for her 4 kids. We had suspected she had an alcohol problem, but not what was actually going on. She hid it very well.

I think she's doing okay now, and unlikely to be using. I dont want to insult her by asking. But sometimes I wonder, and am not sure if I would know, again. Can a person have quite normal behaviour while being addicted to heroin? Could they use it occasionally without suffering extreme withdrawals? I'm not even sure why I'm asking, except I'm rather naive about it all and I believe there are some pretty knowledgeable people on this forum. Thanks if anyone can help or share their experience.


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Re: How well can a person hide heroin addiction? [Re: Tattersail]
    #26373052 - 12/10/19 12:42 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Damn im sorry to hear that :frown: I dont have any experience at all with hard drugs but im almost 100% sure someone will come along to help. I wish you the best :shroomeryhead:


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Re: How well can a person hide heroin addiction? [Re: spirit_shadow] * 2
    #26373092 - 12/10/19 01:03 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

There's a lot of perfectly functional heroin opiate addicts, theyll even look healthy and everything.


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Re: How well can a person hide heroin addiction? [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #26373096 - 12/10/19 01:06 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I functioned great as both a student and in a management position at work for 3 years with a few days a week habit, and for a year of daily use. No one that I didn't tell knew about it or would've guessed.

So yea if someone wants to hide it, depending on the person, it can be pretty easy. Especially now that they're giving out suboxone and methadone takehomes like crazy, actually letting yourself get into withdrawal is just retro at this point


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Re: How well can a person hide heroin addiction? [Re: feevers]
    #26373130 - 12/10/19 01:24 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I can tell if someone's on dope instantly. Are her eyes all pinned out and does she look like she's on dope? And yes what people are taught about heroin and opiates is largely a complete lie and everyone except hardcore addicts and use opiates occasionally or even be high all the time for years and still be highly functional. If not u could always just stop doing heroin one way or the other. It's not like it kills you or fucks you up like alcohol or something. It's like oh no did someone get addicted to smack? Big fucking deal kid. People are so dumb about this kind of stuff it's really frustrating especially when we have idiots trying to guide us out of an opiate epidemic who clear not only have never done heroin but also are really stupid in general particularly about drugs that have been used essentially for the entirety human history.


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Re: How well can a person hide heroin addiction? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26373135 - 12/10/19 01:26 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I was going to say something similar.  Impossible to hide from another junkie/user but relatively easy to hide from someone ‘naive’


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Re: How well can a person hide heroin addiction? [Re: theRealrollforever]
    #26373147 - 12/10/19 01:33 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

i wouldn't have thought people could hide it, thats kinda impressive. i sure couldn't

I'd always be making excuses to friends/family like "I'm just really tired." I'd hear people on the bus pointing me out to their friends so they could all watch me nodding out. pinhole eyes, butane smudges on the face...:lol:

Was in a drivethrough on heroin once and the employee said out loud "what is wrong with you?" it was kinda under their breath, not actually asking me, but thats how instantly people could tell with my dumb ass.


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Re: How well can a person hide heroin addiction? [Re: Tattersail]
    #26373198 - 12/10/19 01:55 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

There are many regular opiate and heroin users who don't show it. Like a lot of serial abusers and rapists, they don't always wear their behavior on their sleeve.


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Re: How well can a person hide heroin addiction? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #26373221 - 12/10/19 02:09 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

RJ Tubs 202 said:
Like a lot of serial abusers and rapists.




Well that's a terrible comparison.

Like a lot of neo-nazis and terrorists, RJ Tubs 202 uses the Internet.


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Re: How well can a person hide heroin addiction? [Re: Tattersail]
    #26373248 - 12/10/19 02:17 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

You might find this interesting.



"Dr Clive Froggatt, Margaret Thatcher's advisor on NHS reform and a former secret heroin addict, was forced to resign from his advisory role when he was discovered faking prescriptions to feed his habit".


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Re: How well can a person hide heroin addiction? [Re: feevers] * 1
    #26373265 - 12/10/19 02:23 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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feevers said:
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RJ Tubs 202 said:
Like a lot of serial abusers and rapists.




Well that's a terrible comparison.

Like a lot of neo-nazis and terrorists, RJ Tubs 202 uses the Internet.




It appears you have nothing substantive to add to my comments.


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Re: How well can a person hide heroin addiction? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #26373268 - 12/10/19 02:24 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I understand what you mean.  But it sounds like you are implying addiction is a moral failing on the level of rape and abuse


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Re: How well can a person hide heroin addiction? [Re: Tattersail]
    #26373289 - 12/10/19 02:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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theRealrollforever said:
Impossible to hide from another junkie/user but relatively easy to hide from someone ‘naive’



There you go. There's a look to the eyes and a heaviness of the head which is unmistakable once you know it.

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Can a person have quite normal behaviour while being addicted to heroin? Could they use it occasionally without suffering extreme withdrawals?



Yes and Yes.

Sounds like you should just talk to her about it.


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Re: How well can a person hide heroin addiction? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #26373297 - 12/10/19 02:37 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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feevers said:
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RJ Tubs 202 said:
Like a lot of serial abusers and rapists.




Well that's a terrible comparison.

Like a lot of neo-nazis and terrorists, RJ Tubs 202 uses the Internet.




It appears you have nothing substantive to add to my comments.





I added something substantive, that your comparison is a bad one and just as irrelevant as the one I followed with. Why compare sniffing/smoking/injecting a euphoric substance into your body to inflicting pain and trauma on another human being?


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Re: How well can a person hide heroin addiction? [Re: feevers]
    #26373324 - 12/10/19 02:48 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Both kind of a pain for pleasure thing idfk :shrug:


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Re: How well can a person hide heroin addiction? [Re: Tattersail]
    #26373412 - 12/10/19 03:34 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I think it depends on how you use the H.

A person who injects would have the most difficult time hiding it.
A person who snorts would have a slightly less difficult time hiding it.
Someone who may or may not be me might be able to smoke it and not only hide it but actually perform better on most, if not all tasks after smoking it. Even socializing, lifting weights, eating, intelligence, reaction time and virtually any other conceivable quality, characteristic, or ability are drastically increased in the person who may or may not be me, after taking only 1 or 2 hits, and also never lose control, as in, withdrawals are minimal, never got angry at anyone, etc.

All the best!

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Re: How well can a person hide heroin addiction? [Re: thirtygoats]
    #26373428 - 12/10/19 03:43 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

your just not getting as high. most addicts no that if they have a bunch of shit to do u only do a little just to get up so u can go get more money for heroin and stuff. or at least take a little blast of crack so u can hustle up some more bags. might have to go up town and flip those little whatever whatevers.


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Re: How well can a person hide heroin addiction? [Re: feevers] * 1
    #26373514 - 12/10/19 04:20 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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feevers said:
Quote:

RJ Tubs 202 said:
Like a lot of serial abusers and rapists.




Well that's a terrible comparison.

Like a lot of neo-nazis and terrorists, RJ Tubs 202 uses the Internet.



I knew exactly what RJ meant and it seemed an appropriate comparison. We're not pedantic teachers grading essays here, stop the needless derail.

he's sayin they're both people who don't wear evidence of their activities on their sleeve :shrug: not saying rapists are just as bad as addicts. reading comprehension +5


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Re: How well can a person hide heroin addiction? [Re: Psilosopherr] * 1
    #26373662 - 12/10/19 05:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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feevers said:
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RJ Tubs 202 said:
Like a lot of serial abusers and rapists.




Well that's a terrible comparison.

Like a lot of neo-nazis and terrorists, RJ Tubs 202 uses the Internet.



I knew exactly what RJ meant and it seemed an appropriate comparison. We're not pedantic teachers grading essays here, stop the needless derail.

he's sayin they're both people who don't wear evidence of their activities on their sleeve :shrug: not saying rapists are just as bad as addicts. reading comprehension +5




Normally I don't respond like that, but his comparison was just so extreme it was laughable.

People who use analogies to rapists (or nazis) typically do so to make a point, unless they completely lack self-awareness. Why use rapists and serial abusers, when most people in general (and like 99% of mushroom growing people here) don't "wear evidence of their activities on their sleeve"?

When you take into account the person making the post frequently makes preachy posts about addiction being "a lifestyle choice", and has used the rape comparison in the past when talking about addiction, the context suggests that it might not be a lack of self-awareness.

I'm not going to keep this going further off topic though. I have nothing against RJ, but he says a lot of wonky stuff whenever it comes to addiction


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Re: How well can a person hide heroin addiction? [Re: Tattersail]
    #26373670 - 12/10/19 05:39 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I bet there are more functional meth addicts since it increases brain activity by a metric fuckton. They would be to smart to admit it though, those dang super humans.


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