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How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power?
    #26372729 - 12/10/19 09:17 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Tell us your thoughts
Nuclear energy?
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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: morrowasted]
    #26372731 - 12/10/19 09:18 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: morrowasted]
    #26372767 - 12/10/19 09:32 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

We definitely need to start building nuclear again. It should be used as a supplement for solar and wind though. Natural gas and coal should go away.


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: morrowasted]
    #26372770 - 12/10/19 09:34 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I have no idea,  Chernobyl's and Fukushima's happen, but I dont have a solution otherwise


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: gopher]
    #26372779 - 12/10/19 09:39 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I have no idea,  Chernobyl's and Fukushima's happen, but I dont have a solution otherwise



The earthquake and tsunami that triggered the fukushima event killed over 19,000 people, but the media's attention shifted to the reactor meltdown almost immediately. Why? The MSM thrives on public fear of what is new, unknown, rare, and seemingly unpredictable.

"In a 2017 risk analysis, relying on the metric of potential months of life lost, it determined that unlike Chernobyl, "relocation was unjustified for the 160,000 people relocated after Fukushima", when the potential future deaths from exposure to radiation around Fukushima, would have been much less, if the alternative of the shelter in place protocol had instead been deployed.[278][279]"

Meanwhile, hydroelectric power killed 230,000 people in a single event


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: morrowasted]
    #26372782 - 12/10/19 09:40 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Jesus all your posts read like a fucking encyclopedia now


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy] * 8
    #26372784 - 12/10/19 09:42 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Jesus all your posts read like a fucking encyclopedia now



hOw does yAlL thInkS boUT nuKE p0wer

- me likey
- meh i guess
- do u want a big oops bc this is how u get a big oops


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: morrowasted] * 2
    #26372818 - 12/10/19 10:00 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Perfect!


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: morrowasted]
    #26372822 - 12/10/19 10:02 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I live quite a short distance from a nuclear plant that I'm not especially worried about. The CANDU reactors are supposed to be pretty good I think.


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: christopera]
    #26372823 - 12/10/19 10:02 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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We definitely need to start building nuclear again. It should be used as a supplement for solar and wind though. Natural gas and coal should go away.



That's pretty much my feelings on the matter too. Doubt it'll happen though.

1. Natural gas and coal
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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: gopher] * 1
    #26372825 - 12/10/19 10:03 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Chernobyl's and Fukushima's happen




Only in Cow & Chicken reactors that are being grossly mismanaged.

A lot of scientific and engineering knowledge has to be almost deliberately misapplied for a reactor we build today to meltdown.

I don't like terrestrial use of fission reactors but right now WE MUST.

Package the nuclear waste good, so it can be either dosposed of in space as waste, or refined to yield technologically viable isotopes.

In the 30 years Fusion will need to become viable we have to radically reduce our emissions, so since its advantageous to have a highly populous humanity build fission reactors in great numbers for the interim period between Fossil and Fusion.

Advanced fusion reactors, like borohydride or Helium-3, produce gamma rays when they are turned on and are nonradioactive from the nanosecond they are switched off.

It might even be possible with cold fusion to reach 2D + 2D --> 4He fusion with some exciting kitchen physics If that turns out to be possible and minitiaturizable it makes star trek technology look vapid.

We need to prevent billions of people dying in our lifetime though, so we need to lean on fission till fusion matures.

Fission and fusion work :biggestnuke: we just need fusion to work without fission and we're ready to roll.

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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #26372833 - 12/10/19 10:07 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

The new reactors are pretty redic but because of environmentalist push back and people not having an understanding of the new technology were stuck with like 1.0 shit from the 60s pretty much. Also fusion stuff like asante said.


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #26372873 - 12/10/19 10:37 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I voted other because I think it’s really bad but still better than fossil fuels.

If I ruled the world we would invest very heavily in nuclear power because right now time is not on our side and nuclear power would give us some time to figure shit out.


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: TheFakeSunRa] * 1
    #26372892 - 12/10/19 10:49 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

If we truly want to commit to drastic co2 reductions and investments in renewables, and we also want to maintain a dependable power supply, we have very little choice but to expand nuclear substantially.

The interesting thing about nuclear is that it will probably divide opinions for quite some time to come. In the following decades, we will probably figure out if the stagnation of its development since the 1970s was a late step into the only right direction, or if it was a costly and pitiful delay of a sheer necessity. There's just no telling which way the coin will flip.


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: koraks]
    #26372914 - 12/10/19 10:59 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: cannabinated]
    #26372934 - 12/10/19 11:10 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

If what asante said is true (about it sounding like it was sabotage) then more reactors would only mean more targets.....

Edit: we only need air,water,food, and shelter from the elements. Literally everything else is optional so I dont really see the hype for power and space.


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #26372945 - 12/10/19 11:20 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

The food won’t be there without the energy source.


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #26372948 - 12/10/19 11:23 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I dont really see the hype for power and space.




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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26372949 - 12/10/19 11:23 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Not if everyone grew and shared their own food.

Also still dont see the hype, I hate my phone :p


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: TheFakeSunRa] * 1
    #26372972 - 12/10/19 11:41 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Good alternative to other energy sources, but are prone to risks during social collapse, direct warfare and natural disaster. No compelling argument in my mind to ban it outright, because the risks involved make it a single factor in the aftermath of one of those three risk variables, whereas those three variables themselves are more likely to be caused by energy crisis and consumption itself which nuclear power is an alleviant of.

Cutting off gas lines and freezing bank accounts for geo-political strategy is a more direct means of getting a nation to comply and conform to the larger international directive, and nuclear power can empower a nation to be self sufficient - so there are barriers to entry in order to keep that power in the hands of those with the power to influence international direction.

As long as oil and international credit accessibility remain a viable means of preventing social collapse and warfare for a nation or faction, there will continue to be forces at play creating barriers of entry to nuclear power, and part of creating these barriers to entry involve persuading everyone on the dangers of allowing entry. Even foregoing nuclear energy yourself in order to rationalize denial to perceived or real competition is a tactical victory if your side has access to the other influences of power.

The dangers of nuclear independence are real from a strategic standpoint if your team holds power, both as energy alone and coupled with nuclear weapons technology. A nation which is self empowered through it's own energy production and also able to separate itself from the international credit system is a stronger threat in conflict, as a larger power in opposition is less able to cut off supply lines to bring the power to the negotiating table.

Nuclear power wont be widely accepted everywhere until systems are put in place and mature enough to ensure that access to nuclear energy does not make a power strategically independent.


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #26372985 - 12/10/19 11:55 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Not if everyone grew and shared their own food.

Also still dont see the hype, I hate my phone :p




8 billion plus people could not sustain themselves as subsistence farmers. There would be the most massive famines the world has ever known.

Nor could potable water be dispersed and shelter as we expect it to be would soon crumble. Sewage would overflow. Disease would spread. Healthcare would grind to a stop. Pharmaceuticals wouldn’t be available. People would freeze to death. And more.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: PatrickKn] * 1
    #26372989 - 12/10/19 11:57 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Good alternative to other energy sources, but are prone to risks during social collapse, direct warfare and natural disaster. No compelling argument in my mind to ban it outright, because the risks involved make it a single factor in the aftermath of one of those three risk variables, whereas those three variables themselves are more likely to be caused by energy crisis and consumption itself which nuclear power is an alleviant of.

Cutting off gas lines and freezing bank accounts for geo-political strategy is a more direct means of getting a nation to comply and conform to the larger international directive, and nuclear power can empower a nation to be self sufficient - so there are barriers to entry in order to keep that power in the hands of those with the power to influence international direction.

As long as oil and international credit accessibility remain a viable means of preventing social collapse and warfare for a nation or faction, there will continue to be forces at play creating barriers of entry to nuclear power, and part of creating these barriers to entry involve persuading everyone on the dangers of allowing entry. Even foregoing nuclear energy yourself in order to rationalize denial to perceived or real competition is a tactical victory if your side has access to the other influences of power.

The dangers of nuclear independence are real from a strategic standpoint if your team holds power, both as energy alone and coupled with nuclear weapons technology. A nation which is self empowered through it's own energy production and also able to separate itself from the international credit system is a stronger threat in conflict, as a larger power in opposition is less able to cut off supply lines to bring the power to the negotiating table.

Nuclear power wont be widely accepted everywhere until systems are put in place and mature enough to ensure that access to nuclear energy does not make a power strategically independent.




Nuclear power is potentially disastrous but fossil fuels are certainly disastrous.


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You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: PatrickKn] * 1
    #26372998 - 12/10/19 12:05 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Heres an article about the different types of reactors and what's being worked on as we stand now. No surprise.china seems to be going all in with this and were still burning coal. Thanks trump and retarded anti nuke environmentalist. https://www.technologyreview.com/s/612940/the-new-safer-nuclear-reactors-that-might-help-stop-climate-change/


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
    #26373003 - 12/10/19 12:06 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Again guys alot of the new reactors are a hell of alot safer and address many issues.


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26373009 - 12/10/19 12:10 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

but the coal miners need jerbs


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: gopher]
    #26373025 - 12/10/19 12:19 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

So tell all the coal companies they gotta pull all the money out of coal and put it into clean shit or ur going to fucking jail for like 30 years and taking the money for you knowingly destroying the world for profit this whole time. Then the workers can be free to just get new jobs that are prob alot cushier than a coal mine.


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: gopher] * 1
    #26373034 - 12/10/19 12:27 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #26373447 - 12/10/19 03:53 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Im down for some nuclear power, as long as the plant ia not right next to the city Im living in. Keep it in a remote area and it will be allllll gooooood.

Then theres this new super smart kid who is building a safer, smaller, modular-style fission reactors. Exciting stuff!


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #26373456 - 12/10/19 03:57 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

this whole not in my backyard bullshit has held back green energy a lot aswell.


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26373474 - 12/10/19 04:10 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I'm as much interested in nuclear disasters as I am in nuclear power.



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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26373484 - 12/10/19 04:13 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

True. But would u fedl comfortable living near a traditional Nuclear Reactor? I know i wouldnt! Id always be a little paranoid of a Meltdown situation.


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26373505 - 12/10/19 04:18 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Cooler than I am with the oil drilling they’re doing in the gulf.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

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I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26373540 - 12/10/19 04:32 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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True. But would u fedl comfortable living near a traditional Nuclear Reactor? I know i wouldnt! Id always be a little paranoid of a Meltdown situation.



I'd prefer not to but I do anyway.


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: psi]
    #26373592 - 12/10/19 04:57 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Honestly id rather look at a stupid reactor than some giant wind turbine or solar field. in the extremely unlikely even of some catastrophic full core meltdown ud prob just get like evacuated and then like theyd buy you a new house or something. :shrug:



Check out this absolutely raw reactor from 01' :barbershreds:


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    #26373756 - 12/10/19 06:48 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: morrowasted]
    #26374040 - 12/10/19 09:50 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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    #26374062 - 12/10/19 10:00 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

LogicaL Chaos said:
True. But would u fedl comfortable living near a traditional Nuclear Reactor? I know i wouldnt! Id always be a little paranoid of a Meltdown situation.



I'd prefer not to but I do anyway.




True that.

I just remembered that nuclear power plants are known to attract UFOs. So i think i will take that backyard nuclear power plant. Worth it :yesnod:


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26376492 - 12/12/19 03:42 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Im down for some nuclear power, as long as the plant ia not right next to the city Im living in. Keep it in a remote area and it will be allllll gooooood.

Then theres this new super smart kid who is building a safer, smaller, modular-style fission reactors. Exciting stuff!






Good stuff, if it checks out!


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: Asante]
    #26376533 - 12/12/19 05:16 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I hope it does. Time will tell!

I did some quick research and found this video. Apparently these types of reactors have a name: Small Modular Reactors or SMR. They could be the future of nuclear fission. Pretty exciting:


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: morrowasted]
    #26376546 - 12/12/19 05:29 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It is just steam created to power things and make people rich.  Buy a toxic substance.  Ask Japan or New Yorkers how much they love it or Russians.

Is simple if one does some research.  There are better alternatives to it IMO.


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: Barnaby]
    #26376665 - 12/12/19 07:38 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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There are better alternatives to it IMO.




How are you going to generate 100 megawatts on a factory sized lot that produces zero emissions and keeps on trucking for the 30 years we need to switch to fusion?


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: Asante]
    #26376670 - 12/12/19 07:43 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Didn't Nikola Tesla have some free energy device that harnessed electrons in the atmosphere?


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: Shiithead]
    #26376749 - 12/12/19 08:28 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yes. But that technology is considered "top secret" by the US Government:

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The big electricity producing companies saw the potential danger represented by Nikola Tesla free power generator and made great efforts to throw a shadow of doubt on the inventor’s work, slandering his name in any possible way. He died deserted and penniless nine years after their attack, and the federal government kept silent about the documents and drawings seized after the scientist’s death.




https://teslagenerator.com/nikola-tesla-free-energy-generator/

However, there is a change happening. Like this technology that uses ambient radio energy for power: https://www.zdnet.com/article/capturing-energy-in-the-air-to-power-electronics/

Perhaps some day Telsa's free energy collector device will be declassified by the US Government.


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: morrowasted]
    #26376792 - 12/12/19 08:59 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Nuclear power is essential for medical radioactive isotopes and I generally support continued nuclear power research and limited building of new plants, but I don't believe that nuclear energy will ever live up to the hype and it will always be a bloated government sponsored form of power unable to compete without subsidies.


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: morrowasted]
    #26377268 - 12/12/19 01:53 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I like nuclear power, but people are too stupid and too irresponsible to use it safely. We need some amount of reactors to produce exotic elements for medical and scientific applications, but we're just too primitive as a species to use nuclear power on a large scale safely.

We should probably move everything to solar instead.


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: nooneman]
    #26377319 - 12/12/19 02:08 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Clean coal is the future.  And wind power kills birds.:lahey:


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: Barnaby]
    #26377390 - 12/12/19 02:39 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Coal is too dirty. Burn timber.


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #26377443 - 12/12/19 03:03 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

California is doing its part.


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Re: How does the Pub feel about Nuclear power? [Re: Barnaby]
    #26377467 - 12/12/19 03:14 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

:highfive:


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