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DMT for someone depressed
    #26371842 - 12/09/19 08:19 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

So I met this woman online that is depressed, is desperate to get out of it. I recommended her to change her diet, start exercising, and try mushrooms. She wanted to do the mushrooms, but doesn't want to do it alone, asked me to be with her. I told her I dont have the time to sit her on a mushroom trip. And frankly the idea to sit 6h or 7h on the trip of someone I dont even know is not too appealing to me, simply for the risk involved. What if she has a horrible trip you know? But I offered her I'd sit her on a DMT trip, it's just much shorter :shrug: I think mushrooms would be more therapeutic and I told her that, but a good DMT experience could perhaps prepare her for a mushroom trip alone. And maybe will actually help with her depression. She wants to do it tomorrow. So it's gonna be like taking the first psychedelic drug ever, DMT, with someone you just met. But she really wants to do it. Thoughts?


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: Inflaton]
    #26371849 - 12/09/19 08:28 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Fuck that.


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: SporeJunkie]
    #26371863 - 12/09/19 08:39 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Fuck that.




Lol.


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: Inflaton]
    #26371868 - 12/09/19 08:42 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I guess you're talking about smoked DMT?


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: SporeJunkie] * 1
    #26371873 - 12/09/19 08:45 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Fuck that.



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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: pixelpopper]
    #26371875 - 12/09/19 08:46 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I think your first set of advice was good.

Dont blow her head of with dmt just because you're not willing to sit her.

Find somebody who can really help.


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: Inflaton]
    #26371876 - 12/09/19 08:46 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I can say this: DMT cured my own depression. although it was with syrian rue and orally, so trips were a lot longer. Definitely had some great insights on it, and it eased my own fears that many people without a religion have: what happens when you die? is that it, is it all pointless?

DMT helped me overcome that fear. I strongly suspect that there is no End, just an end. took way too much once and blacked out completely (protip: the salt form is much more bioavailable than freebase. I was taking like 1 gram almost of freebase because that's how much it took to get a strong trip... tried the same thing with the salt form and WHOOPS.) anyways, it worked out for the best. before that, i'd never in my life lost consciousness before. if i was tired and wanted to sleep, i'd sleep when i chose too, never involuntarily. i'd never blacked out or anything, and i had this weird fear that being suddenly being knocked out would "kill" me and the person that woke up after would be like...someone with my memories but not actually me. i am happy to report that it's not the case - i still am the same me after waking, which kind of boggles my mind.

that also helped me overcome my fear of anesthesia and doctor visits in general, so now i got my septoplasmy and can breath properly for the first time in my life. (still me after anesthesia too - was really weird, i was perfectly fine and alert for one second then nothing the next til i woke up again.)

It really made me wonder just what makes up consciousness. i know on another trip with DMT it gave me the feeling that it's important for us to be honest with ourselves and figure out what we want to do, no matter how impossible - because eventually, our beliefs and hopes become real, either in this life or the next. believe you'll die and go to heaven? you will, pearly gates and all. believe you don't deserve such rewards and will burn? your fears will manifest. feel like you're going to reincarnate, memories intact? you will.

It's important to decide what heaven means to you and work toward that dream, lest your fears and masks you throw over yourself to "fit" in society decide for you.

I think the scientists who believe in a multiverse have it right - everything exists in some form and when you die, you simply travel to a new reality based on beliefs. you could meet god. you could BE a god. you can simply choose to live out a fantasy of your own making, or immerse yourself in anothers. you could keep your memories of your previous life, or start afresh.

It's as if existence's sole (soul?) purpose is to experience everything - every possibility, every combination, like number lines in different dimensions stretching to infinities. which is also why art is so important - when you create a story, it's like you're giving life to an actual world, or at least making that worlds story known to ours - connecting distant worlds together. you can't really say its one or the other, because it's like a circle - time has no beginning or end.

I can certainly see why so many scientists are so afraid of a multiverse being the true nature of reality though. quite literally any perspective you have is the true one, even when different perspectives seemingly conflict.  :nut:


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: Psion]
    #26371892 - 12/09/19 08:58 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

If you were really considering it, explain basically what it’s known for and what can possibly be expected, and make the dosages very small and don’t rush the dosage.


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: Nekai]
    #26371909 - 12/09/19 09:13 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I'm a total noob regarding DMT, but what I've read has generally said that smoked DMT doesn't really provide the kind of healing experience she's looking for, although it does seem to leave a positive afterglow for many.

And anyway there's quite a lot more to using psychedelics to heal depression than just taking them. If she doesn't understand all of this already, I'd recommend a long list of reading material and good audio interviews with people who lay it all out properly, so she at least has some kind of understanding what the deal is before jumping into it.


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: pixelpopper]
    #26372008 - 12/09/19 10:37 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

DMT especially Anahuasca can work wonders for depression, providing a much needed life/death jolt that can make a person realize how lucky he is to be alive. But it will also scare one shitless as it does this, as that is the jolt.

But personally I'd be more concerned with meeting up with some random internet stranger. Who the hell knows who she is, or how she will react? There are certainly people out there who should not under any circumstances be using such things.

The whole psychedelics curing depression thing is a bit dubious for me, because although as stated above I do believe it can work, it's also not something I would proscribe or make myself in any way responsible for. I'm pretty sure it also goes catastrophically wrong from time to time, as well....


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: Inflaton]
    #26372071 - 12/09/19 11:41 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

yaaaa... DMT for someone first time psychadelic. I wouldn't do it. It's an intense drug. Microdosing mushrooms might be a better beginner option; a good glimpse on what the psychadelic experience is about. Maybe they are ready for a little DMT, but you met them, so who knows


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: rickjamez20] * 2
    #26372103 - 12/09/19 11:59 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Plenty of people do DMT as their first psych and deal with it just fine. It's not like taking any other psych will prepare you for DMT anyways.  :shrug:

Meeting people you don't really know who have mental issues and trip sitting them sounds like a pretty average idea though. So much that can go wrong. Bad mojo.


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #26372455 - 12/10/19 06:38 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Well, I have known this person for like a year. Only talked online, from time to time, and I have a picture of how she is, its not like she is a total stranger, just we never met in person. Like I have an idea of how somebpeople are in these forums from their posts :wink: And I'm good at reading people. I like her because she can be funny and doesnt take herself seriously.

She said her depression and anxiety is very severe lately and she is "desperate to change her mindset and thought patterns", she'd try anything. And I think that if DMT is good at something, it is at changing one's mindset and thought patterns, right? Even a horrible experience could give her gratitude for being alive. Who the hell knows. And if the experience is blissful and amazing, I think she is set. She'll do mushrooms.

I told her the experience will be very intense and might well be terrifying, she doesnt care. And I think that might actually be the right mindset to go into it. She seems ready to let go. I also told her psychedelics are not going to make her depression magically dissapear. She'll have to do the work. But they might show her the path and direction she'll have to take. I guess her view is that desperate times call for desperate measures, and I kind of agree. I take DMT for fun, for fucks sake :lol: if I was depressed I'd totally give it a go.

And I never do charity, but I'm just trying to be a good samritan for once. And frankly, I'm also curious to see how its gonna work out. And I obviously take zero responsibility if anything goes wrong. I'm not gonna feel bad. I made that clear. It is all her choice. I'm only helping her do what she wants.

I'll also let her choose the dosage. If she wants to take a peek, or go for the bereakthrough, her choice. But I suspect she'll go for the latter.

And thanks for the answers guys :thumbup:


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: Inflaton]
    #26372677 - 12/10/19 08:51 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Good luck


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: SporeJunkie] * 1
    #26372777 - 12/10/19 09:38 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Good luck but I'd suggest meeting her first and getting a feel for each other. Plenty of people have great chemistry online and none in person (and vice versa).

Furthermore, although you said you'll take no responsibility if things go wrong, you have to realize that you can still be put at risk. Does she have a psychotic break and become violent? Does she freak out and start screaming for help, putting you in the position to explain what is happening should someone come to the aid of the screaming person? Plus (assuming you are providing the substance) providing people you've never met with illegal substances is risky (its risky irregardless but higher if you don't truly know the person).

Your intentions are good (hopefully) and if you go through with it I hope that it all works out.


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: Socrateshroom] * 1
    #26372820 - 12/10/19 10:02 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

if you're giving them the substances to trip with, you can't just say you aren't responsible. If you don't want to have any responsibility, then you probably shouldn't give it to them


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: pixelpopper] * 1
    #26372902 - 12/10/19 10:53 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yes definitely without any question, do not be the person to provide her with DMT. I’d give the same advice even if she was your sister to be honest! Personally I would never give it to anyone...


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: wolf8312]
    #26372943 - 12/10/19 11:19 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

There's hardly anything bad that could physically happen in the 5 minute window of a DMT trip. If they have a strong negative reaction they'll be too incapacitated to do much. And then 15 mintues later they'll know whether or not psychedelics are for them in their state.

But I've seen successful DMT trips make people believe crazy things, so if she's already in a position with nothing to lose and the trip gives her a radical message and it's the most powerful message she's ever felt then there's potential for delusion. But the message could also be exactly what she needed, so who knows.

If I had a friend in that position I would take Ayahuasca with them, but it doesn't sound like you wanna get that invested. That has extra risks with the MAOI and long duration, but more potential to be therapeutic without breaking her mind.


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: Icon]
    #26372962 - 12/10/19 11:34 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I did it as my first psychedelic and rode it out perfectly. I wouldn't give any of it to anybody else unless I know them and they know what they're in for. DMT can really change people. Just one 5-10 minute trip can change somebody.


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: Indicabuds420]
    #26373017 - 12/10/19 12:14 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I've met people I've only ever spoken to online and gone to festies and done drugs together, all sorts of things. Nothing unusual there. I think lots of people have.

If you're not getting any bad vibes about it Inflation, get for it man. Trust your instincts hey. But if you meet her and your instinct starts telling you no you can always change your mind, just talk with her, then whatever, see what happens.


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: Inflaton] * 3
    #26373372 - 12/10/19 03:13 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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But she really wants to do it. Thoughts?





I feel a very light dose of smoked DMT (10mg to 15mg at the most) can be a good introduction to the head-space of psychedelics....

...But, I feel the smoked DMT experience doesn't really have much to offer in the way of "healing" or getting down to the core of one's issues with depression, or offering time for introspection and reflection on oneself/life...at all.




I find smoked DMT to be a rapid and chaotic experience and it is super short in duration, there is no moment for "reflection", there is no moment for introspection, and the first few moments after smoking the stuff are usually filled with some anxiety (even for me with 100's of trips over the years I'm put a little "on edge" at first with smoked DMT, I can't imagine what it'd be like for someone with zero experience with psychedelics).


I just don't consider smoked DMT to have much "value" or "potential" at all in regards to healing or sorting out oneself or getting down to one's personal issues/trauma/depression/anxiety etc. None of my smoked DMT experiences involve or revolve around those sorts of things, none of my smoked DMT experiences involve any sort of "introspection" or reflection on myself and my life. Sometimes during the comedown & afterglow I'm sorta in a "reflective"/introspective head-space for a brief moment, but it is so short lived that it's all over before I get anywhere.

DMT taken orally with an MAOI is a totally different story though. Taking DMT orally is where it's at for sorting oneself out and working on "fixing" oneself. Where one can be in the experience for at least a couple hours, have some time to reflect and go inward and be immersed.


Smoked DMT is just an incredibly rapid & chaotic experience that doesn't really apply much to healing/working on oneself....Even with all of my experience with psychedelics over the years, after I smoke DMT more often than not I'm thinking/feeling "What the fuck just happened" rather than getting some actual "substance" or something to pull from the experience and apply to my life.

Smoked DMT just isn't the "tool" to use for such a thing IMO.

And for one who doesn't have experience with psychedelics, I feel smoked DMT is likely to be a very confusing experience.



So sure...I say go for it if the person is curious about psychedelics...I just would not expect the experience to have any sort of impact on that persons depression and would not expect the experience to offer much to that person in helping them get out of their depression....And I would make it clear to that person that it's probably not going to offer them much in those aspects.





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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: openmind]
    #26373898 - 12/10/19 08:13 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I'm kinda late to the party here but I'll put my 2 cents in anyway.

In my experience with depression/anxiety and psychedelics is that microdosing helps immensely. After a few days of 10ug of lsd, 0.1g mush or some mescaline/fresh cactus I feel like a completely different person. My negative thought patterns disappear, I'm more social and I get this drive/spark that can last for weeks (it does creep back in eventually).

DMT is a weird one though. The first time I tried it (10mg or so) I was in a depressed state and I was immediately launched into a dark trip and wanted it to end as fast as it started. I thought about flushing all the DMT I had just extracted down the toilet. I imagine if that was my first psychedelic experience I might have never touched anything again. Since then I've always been nervous about using it but I've had some decent experiences since. Overall, I have learned nothing of value from DMT. DMT visuals are by far the most incredible I've experienced but thats all it is for me - purely aesthetic. It's just too quick for any valuable introspection. Then again I've never completely blasted off.

I'm sure some have good results with DMT treating depression but I highly recommend looking into microdosing as there's minimal risk of a bad experience that could discourage future use.

I suppose a step up from that would be a good dose of cactus. My first cactus trip is what really lit the fire inside me. I remember feeling absolutely incredible but not in an intoxicated kind of way and with no visuals. I kept thinking "this is what it feels like to be normal". Basically I had been depressed for like 8 years and was so used to feeling like shit all the time I forgot what not being depressed felt like.


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: Maldozer] * 1
    #26376091 - 12/11/19 09:14 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

yeah, i get that feeling with psychedelics too. that "this is how i'm supposed to feel" feeling. it's a real big motivator to try and do what you can to maintain that feeling, whether it's eating healthier, seeing a doctor about issues, exercising, or culling your social acquaintances of bad apples. i never seem to get the urge to do "bad things" that might make you feel good in the short term to try and reach that goal either - only healthy habits. it's pretty strange, though welcome.

using psychedelics feels like, to me, having an oasis that's been drying up, a source of water that sustains your soul...and having a sudden blessed storm that fills that pool back to the brim. you go from parched to rapidly nourished and replenished, but the pool is still just a reservoir, not a spring - there's no normal replenishment from day to day, so having something restore the reserves for you is lifesaving, literally.

I hope to one day "hit a well", so to speak, so that i get that replenishing feeling without needing psychedelics, but i've not found it yet. in the meantime, i shudder to think of just how parched of joy i was before. i was clearly near the end of my limit.


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: Psion]
    #26376955 - 12/12/19 10:38 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I’m perplexed by some of the comments about smoked DMT being too short in duration. I have to admit my sample size is 1, but that experience was a level 5 of whatever, totally gone into another dimension, I did not have a body anymore, and there was no time. It literally felt like an eternity. The strangest thing was coming down and having to “remember” what having a body is like. I did not at all think “that went by quickly”.


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: igorcarajo] * 1
    #26377340 - 12/12/19 02:16 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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The strangest thing was coming down and having to “remember” what having a body is like.



:lol:

Still, it's like the fast-food drive-thru experience compared to a fancy reservation with Ayahuasca.


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    #26377604 - 12/12/19 04:06 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

So with Ayahuasca are you also “gone”, so to speak?


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: igorcarajo]
    #26377729 - 12/12/19 05:42 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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So with Ayahuasca are you also “gone”, so to speak?



Depends on the dose. On higher doses you generally lie down and enter a lucid dream state. There's moments to remember that you still have a body, but for the most part you're psychically interacting with visuals that are more real than life itself.


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: Maldozer] * 1
    #26378148 - 12/12/19 09:58 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm kinda late to the party here but I'll put my 2 cents in anyway.

In my experience with depression/anxiety and psychedelics is that microdosing helps immensely. After a few days of 10ug of lsd, 0.1g mush or some mescaline/fresh cactus I feel like a completely different person. My negative thought patterns disappear, I'm more social and I get this drive/spark that can last for weeks (it does creep back in eventually).

DMT is a weird one though. The first time I tried it (10mg or so) I was in a depressed state and I was immediately launched into a dark trip and wanted it to end as fast as it started. I thought about flushing all the DMT I had just extracted down the toilet. I imagine if that was my first psychedelic experience I might have never touched anything again. Since then I've always been nervous about using it but I've had some decent experiences since. Overall, I have learned nothing of value from DMT. DMT visuals are by far the most incredible I've experienced but thats all it is for me - purely aesthetic. It's just too quick for any valuable introspection. Then again I've never completely blasted off.

I'm sure some have good results with DMT treating depression but I highly recommend looking into microdosing as there's minimal risk of a bad experience that could discourage future use.

I suppose a step up from that would be a good dose of cactus. My first cactus trip is what really lit the fire inside me. I remember feeling absolutely incredible but not in an intoxicated kind of way and with no visuals. I kept thinking "this is what it feels like to be normal". Basically I had been depressed for like 8 years and was so used to feeling like shit all the time I forgot what not being depressed felt like.




You're definitely better off going with Aya or Anahuasca if you want therapeutic benefits from DMT. It it truly is uncanny how a chemical can be so therapeutic, even mushrooms can not get close to it, but the heavy machinery is really not the DMT itself but the harmala alkaloids.

You don't need to go to full on hyperspace either...

It's serious business though, and unlike shrooms can be, not really recreational.


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: wolf8312]
    #26378634 - 12/13/19 07:46 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

What is Anahuasca? I don’t think I’ve seen that word before.


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: igorcarajo]
    #26378652 - 12/13/19 07:57 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It's just an analogue of the actual brew (Caapi and DMT) were instead of using Caapi(which technically is ayahuasca) you use another MAOI. In my case Syrian rue. I just use the term because it avoids having to explain, or being explained to by purists, that what I am taking is not actually ayahuasca.


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: wolf8312] * 1
    #26379300 - 12/13/19 01:44 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

The Harmala alkaloids make all the difference. Ayahuasca, Anahuasca, Pharmahuasca, Psilohuasca, doesn't really matter, you want that Huasca sauce imo. Rue and Caapi are different plants, but the same technology, capable of the same things, for the most part. So if going the DMT route, definitely wanna try to include the Harmalas, even if in Changa (particularly i'd imagine taking the Harmalas orally and then smoking on some DMT here and there).


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: Sabnock]
    #26379441 - 12/13/19 03:06 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

total alien immersion with abduction and alien sex on 115mg DMT capsule with around 300mg harmaline. A+ experience


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26379567 - 12/13/19 03:55 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Alien sex doesn’t sound good.


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: igorcarajo]
    #26379588 - 12/13/19 04:03 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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igorcarajo said:
Alien sex doesn’t sound good.





it was alien rape. i blacked out and woke up to a female insectoid over me with this great euphoric feeling of "i just got fucked, and it felt awesome. i love you alien insectoid"


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: igorcarajo]
    #26380754 - 12/14/19 07:09 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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igorcarajo said:
Alien sex doesn’t sound good.



Sexual encounters with entities isn't uncommon.


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26381331 - 12/14/19 01:24 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not the biggest O'Reilly fan but alien sex is unbelievably incredible... better than any actual sex I've had irl


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26381858 - 12/14/19 06:18 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Better than any sex irl I have ever had as well(although it wasn't physical)


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


Edited by Bill_Oreilly (12/14/19 06:37 PM)


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #26382057 - 12/14/19 08:16 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I gotta try having actual sex while tripping, I wonder if it would be even better. Probably hard to do unless ur in a long-term relationship though, lol.


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26382775 - 12/15/19 06:46 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Nah just go to some hippie festival with some acid, find a girl, get to know her, if shes giving odd vibes that she kinda likes you, give her acid and you might get lucky. Do this a lot and you are guarenteed something..atleast herpes


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26382931 - 12/15/19 08:56 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Korean Jesus said:
I gotta try having actual sex while tripping, I wonder if it would be even better. Probably hard to do unless ur in a long-term relationship though, lol.




Sex on acid is the best sex I’ve had. Never even tried on mushrooms, never wanted to. Never tried this with a random festival chick. Did it once with a chick who was a friend and I came in 2 minutes and felt awkward around her after that. Other than that though it’s always been  with long term relationship partners I was comfortable with. 69ing on acid is one of my favorite things ever. Highly recommend trying it out. Nothing too crazy with the dose though.. If you’re going above 200ug you’ll probably have to wait til the peak is over to get in there.


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: CosmicGiggle] * 1
    #26384454 - 12/16/19 03:12 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Sticking to low dose or even micro-dosing mushrooms have completely demolished symptoms of my depression!

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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: HolyBolete]
    #26401217 - 12/26/19 06:17 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It's been like over two weeks now and still no update? I'm going to have to assume she stole his kidneys. Total setup, rip inflaton lol.


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: DontFearThePeepr]
    #26409816 - 12/31/19 07:29 PM (4 years, 29 days ago)

People have been talking about taking DMT orally. What is the best tek or place to get info? I have 2kg of mimosa and really really don’t want to smoke. I’ve heard of a clinical trial where they injected it thru an IV, but I assume that was pharmaceutical grade stuff. Do you guys have any recommendations?


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: CaliStudentGrower]
    #26410554 - 01/01/20 07:44 AM (4 years, 28 days ago)

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CaliStudentGrower said:
People have been talking about taking DMT orally. What is the best tek or place to get info? I have 2kg of mimosa and really really don’t want to smoke. I’ve heard of a clinical trial where they injected it thru an IV, but I assume that was pharmaceutical grade stuff. Do you guys have any recommendations?




The DMT-Nexus is the best place to research anything related to DMT. They have a library of teks and tons of information. I recommend you patiently search through threads there because there is a lot to know.

The basics are that your body has an enzyme called the MAO that metabolizes many different molecules that enter your body, including DMT. If you inhibit this enzyme, you give the DMT enough time to pass through the liver and enter the blood stream via the stomach. Inhibiting the MAO makes oral DMT possible and it also makes DMT stronger because it lasts longer and more of it gets to your brain at once, in cases of smoking or injecting on an MAOI. It can also make shrooms and other drugs like MDMA stronger, as well as many pharmaceutical drugs and alcohol. So you really have to be careful what you mix while on an MAOI or Ayahuasca.

Traditionally, Ayahuasca shamans will brew together a DMT plant and a MAOI plant and drink the resulting tea. You can get the same experience with more reliable results by using the main ingredients in their pure forms. I'd highly recommend extracting the DMT from your MHRB with a tek like the "Q21Q21 A/B". That tek is the most modern evolution for MHRB, you could extract the entire 2kg in a day.

Then for an MAOI you could just shop online for harmala alkaloids. Harmine/Harmaline/THH, in their HCL salt form. You want to convert your pure DMT to a salt form as well, using the "FASA DMT Fumarate" tek. Search for those on DMT-Nexus and if you follow the instructions you should end up with the two key ingredients for one of the coolest mind altering substances available. Dosage is different for everyone, but you'll have a much easier time finding the right dose for you with pure, dry crystals vs a brew of raw plants.


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Re: DMT for someone depressed [Re: DontFearThePeepr]
    #26410588 - 01/01/20 08:34 AM (4 years, 28 days ago)

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DontFearThePeepr said:
It's been like over two weeks now and still no update? I'm going to have to assume she stole his kidneys. Total setup, rip inflaton lol.



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