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Would people give their guns to Trump?
#26371193 - 12/09/19 03:39 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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People are embarrassed to hand in their guns to the Trump administration, but should we be? Would you be willing to turn in your neighbor? What should penalties be for having guns?
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#26371210 - 12/09/19 03:46 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Lachlen]
#26371215 - 12/09/19 03:48 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I bet some folks might be willing to give Trump a little bit of their ammo. 
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Antigov]
#26371227 - 12/09/19 03:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Everyone says that. Nobody is going to come to everyone's doors one day and take all the guns. You will lose them one person at a time and one charge at a time until one day people are too scared or confused to own any guns. Creeping gun rights will take them from your live hands.
Give them up.
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#26371280 - 12/09/19 04:12 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was out on the lake and there was a horrible boating accident. All my guns fell overboard. Then when I leaned over to grab them all my ammunition fell in.
Now I don't have anything.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: mycosis]
#26371292 - 12/09/19 04:15 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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lol 
i need to get some guns asap, before the us gun corps start raising prices and the gov makes it harder to attain them
might just build my first gun via 80% lowers rather than buy a complete one
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: dreamachine]
#26371299 - 12/09/19 04:17 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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dreamachine said: lol 
i need to get some guns asap, before the us gun corps start raising prices and the gov makes it harder to attain them
might just build my first gun via 80% lowers rather than buy a complete one
What about gun control tho/? Dont you want to save life?
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: dreamachine]
#26371300 - 12/09/19 04:17 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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If we do what england did then we only have stabbings that arent that bad.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: dreamachine]
#26371334 - 12/09/19 04:28 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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yea but you can confiscate them. Beto would do it Bernie too.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Lachlen]
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Koods quit lying, they didn't confiscate them, or should I say couldn't because there was no registry on them.
Number of Bump stocks turned in.
They can have my gun, I'll just build one that is full auto, and untraceable. Unlikely they'll find all my stashed ammo.
Gun Building pdf's
Why is everyone so hard for getting rid of guns, they're pandora's box, that train has sailed and it's open as fuck. The risk associated with trying to scoop up 393,347,000 guns from people whose beliefs and culture hold as an unalienable right to own, just isn't worth it.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Zyiadem] 1
#26373165 - 12/10/19 01:41 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Another new member creating leftist agenda thread.
Anything we haven't seen 100000x already?
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Try and keep up. OP was XUL's puppet, hardly a leftist.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Zyiadem]
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Zyiadem said: Koods quit lying, they didn't confiscate them, or should I say couldn't because there was no registry on them.
Number of Bump stocks turned in.
They can have my gun, I'll just build one that is full auto, and untraceable. Unlikely they'll find all my stashed ammo.
Gun Building pdf's
Why is everyone so hard for getting rid of guns, they're pandora's box, that train has sailed and it's open as fuck. The risk associated with trying to scoop up 393,347,000 guns from people whose beliefs and culture hold as an unalienable right to own, just isn't worth it.
Gun stats wiki
How am I lying? The government required bump stock owners to turn them in. Without compensation.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: vinsue]
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vinsue said: Try and keep up. OP was XUL's puppet, hardly a leftist.
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And how am I supposed to know that?
His usual posts aren't of this context.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: koods]
#26373433 - 12/10/19 03:45 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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How am I lying? The government required bump stock owners to turn them in. Without compensation.
Nobody turned them in, compensation or not. Nobody turned in a device they paid for in non tracked purchases, making it an unenforceable law. Ya didn't even look at my link didja?
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Zyiadem]
#26373453 - 12/10/19 03:56 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Zyiadem said:
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koods said:
How am I lying? The government required bump stock owners to turn them in. Without compensation.
Nobody turned them in, compensation or not. Nobody turned in a device they paid for in non tracked purchases, making it an unenforceable law. Ya didn't even look at my link didja?
It's not unenforceable. It's just being held up while the federal government works through court challenges by people who are trying to argue that it's unconstitutional. The only people implicating that as a failure are right wing agitprop mouthpieces who know that they can get more traffic from neoconservatives if they beg the question like that.
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Herbologist said:
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vinsue said: Try and keep up. OP was XUL's puppet, hardly a leftist.
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And how am I supposed to know that?
His usual posts aren't of this context.
I doubt that. Usual XUL post to stir up radical republican agendas.
8 kids a day in the USA are injured by unsecure home kept firearms. I'd like to see how rare a firearm saves a life.
Usual american watched too many westerns and hollywood bs.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Zyiadem]
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Zyiadem said: Koods quit lying, they didn't confiscate them, or should I say couldn't because there was no registry on them.
Number of Bump stocks turned in.
They can have my gun, I'll just build one that is full auto, and untraceable. Unlikely they'll find all my stashed
Yeah good luck making a homebuilt machine gun lol. Fucking right wing fantasy.
As for bump stocks, you have no idea how many have been turned in because they aren’t counting.
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On the national level, the ATF has decided not to track the number of bump stocks turned into its offices for disposal, according to Washington Field Division spokesman Michael Boyer.
“We are not providing any numbers, and as far as I know we're not compiling any numbers,” Boyer said of the returned bump stocks. “We don't have any numbers or any of that information to gi
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#26374257 - 12/11/19 12:24 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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They'll never take MY cold dead hands!

Wait, what were we talking about?
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: koods]
#26377564 - 12/12/19 03:50 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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koods said:
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Zyiadem said: Koods quit lying, they didn't confiscate them, or should I say couldn't because there was no registry on them.
Number of Bump stocks turned in.
They can have my gun, I'll just build one that is full auto, and untraceable. Unlikely they'll find all my stashed
Yeah good luck making a homebuilt machine gun lol. Fucking right wing fantasy.
As for bump stocks, you have no idea how many have been turned in because they aren’t counting.
Quote:
On the national level, the ATF has decided not to track the number of bump stocks turned into its offices for disposal, according to Washington Field Division spokesman Michael Boyer.
“We are not providing any numbers, and as far as I know we're not compiling any numbers,” Boyer said of the returned bump stocks. “We don't have any numbers or any of that information to gi
It's not that hard to make a machine gun at home. Some idiot with a drill press could do it. Hell, some British dude basically put one together with a screwdriver and wire.
It's pretty damn hard to make a homebuilt machine gun that can get through a 30 round mag without jamming/exploding. But gunmen are pretty disposable, so as long as they get a few bullets in the air, they've done their job.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Kryptos]
#26377577 - 12/12/19 03:54 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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You need a lot more than a drill press to make a machine gun. You'd need a lathe and a mill.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Morel Guy]
#26377882 - 12/12/19 07:28 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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From scratch, maybe. But many parts are readily available over the counter.
Hell, You could do it with the average hardware store with a little bit of elbow grease, not even counting the 80% lowers that you can generally buy sans serial number in the US.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Kryptos]
#26378393 - 12/13/19 01:32 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Directly answering OP question/title:
I'm pretty sure most diaper don supporters would turn in their guns to donnie if asked. And quite possibly offer a blowjob with it.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Kryptos]
#26378475 - 12/13/19 04:15 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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OP is UUL puppet. Both are banned.
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#26379546 - 12/13/19 03:50 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just cleared the shelf of 9mm at Walmart. Unbelievable clearance sale going on as they stop selling self-defense ammo.
The guy that got there just after I did was pissed.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: mycosis]
#26379548 - 12/13/19 03:51 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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People are fanatics of false hopes and would give their babies to Trump.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Morel Guy]
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: mycosis]
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mycosis said: I just cleared the shelf of 9mm at Walmart. Unbelievable clearance sale going on as they stop selling self-defense ammo.
The guy that got there just after I did was pissed. 
Do you feel like more of a man now?
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Lachlen] 2
#26379584 - 12/13/19 04:01 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Republicans claim they want to limit Government. That they want small Government. Their actions don't show that. They want less liberal programs. Less supporting the population, less protection of the population.
They want a stronger Government, a more weaponized system of Government. More prisons, more military, more police, less schools, more pollution, more everything bad.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: koods]
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koods said:
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mycosis said: I just cleared the shelf of 9mm at Walmart. Unbelievable clearance sale going on as they stop selling self-defense ammo.
The guy that got there just after I did was pissed. 
Do you feel like more of a man now?
No. Should I?
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mycosis said: I just cleared the shelf of 9mm at Walmart. Unbelievable clearance sale going on as they stop selling self-defense ammo.
The guy that got there just after I did was pissed. 
Do you feel like more of a man now?
No. Should I?
You made Koods squeeze his mouse and try to think of an insult
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Well we’re all glad he got to keep all the self defense ammo to himself. I guess the rest of us will have to defend ourselves with our wit and brawn.
At least it gave mycosis the opportunity to virtue signal that he’s hardcore
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: koods]
#26379655 - 12/13/19 04:25 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just use your bike lock
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: koods]
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koods said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/03/25/trump-administrations-bump-stock-ban-set-to-go-into-effect-tuesday.html
Remember when the government confiscated bump stocks?
It wasn’t Hilary. It wasn’t Obama. It was Trump
You should thank him.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Patlal]
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Use your prison locker lock in a pillow case.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Herbologist]
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A super soaker filled with rubbing alcohol makes a pretty cool $15 flame thrower .
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Herbologist]
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Herbologist said: Just use your bike lock
The most useful crime prevention device I’ve ever owned
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koods said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/03/25/trump-administrations-bump-stock-ban-set-to-go-into-effect-tuesday.html
Remember when the government confiscated bump stocks?
It wasn’t Hilary. It wasn’t Obama. It was Trump
You should thank him.
Nah. He’s a shit stain upon the human race
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: mycosis]
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mycosis said: I just cleared the shelf of 9mm at Walmart. Unbelievable clearance sale going on as they stop selling self-defense ammo.
The guy that got there just after I did was pissed. 
You probably could have gotten it cheaper online, anyway.
Just sayin'.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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No. They had Federal brass case 9mm FMJ boxes of 200 marked down to $14. That is 7¢ a round. Can't beat that anywhere online.
They're clearing out. Whatever they have left by their deadline they're donating to the Police Department.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: mycosis] 4
#26383403 - 12/15/19 02:07 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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The police have no business having guns.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Enlil] 1
#26383574 - 12/15/19 03:42 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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They do as long as the average citizen has guns. Police need to be able to respond with proportional force, and in the US, that means average cops need the ability to defeat shooters.
If the average US citizen wasn't armed, then the average cop wouldn't need to be armed.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Kryptos]
#26383586 - 12/15/19 03:46 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nah, fuck that. Police should have non-lethal weapons only for patrol. Special units of police armed with lethal weapons could be called out for situations that require it.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Enlil]
#26383605 - 12/15/19 03:51 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, that makes sense, but only with a disarmed citizenry. The average cop in the US is likely to run into a guy with a gun that's pissed off at being arrested/pulled over/whatever. That cop needs to be able to respond with equal force. If the average citizen had nothing more dangerous than a knife or a bat, then a cop with a Billy club makes sense.
Gun owners force police to own guns. Because due to gun owners, literally every situation requires the potential for lethal force.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Kryptos]
#26383608 - 12/15/19 03:53 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I disagree. 99% of police should not have the option of deadly force. Off-duty, they can carry all they want, but on-duty, they should have only nonlethal means.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Enlil]
#26383612 - 12/15/19 03:54 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Situation unfold all to quickly. Sadly that is why people 'respect' police. Things unfold to fast and severe with police. I fear there will be no state run safety programs.
The state is pretty much death. Call it religious, but it'll not be ideal soon.
It's been this way always. Ego will never defeat ego, mind will not defeat mind. That is the hell of existence.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Morel Guy] 1
#26383614 - 12/15/19 03:57 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nah, cops need guns, because it's societal MAD theory. If a civilian can put people down with bullets at 400 yards, the cops need to be able to do the same.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Kryptos]
#26383621 - 12/15/19 03:59 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Enlil]
#26383778 - 12/15/19 05:38 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Probably. Your view is ideal, but the world is not.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Kryptos]
#26383813 - 12/15/19 05:57 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: dreamachine]
#26383830 - 12/15/19 06:06 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think by law a reciever is a firearm. That looks like 80% of a firearm.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Morel Guy]
#26383839 - 12/15/19 06:11 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Correct. So long as the lower is at max 80% completed it is not considered a firearm and isn't require by federal law to be registered. All one has to do is drill out the 80% lower with the jigs that they provide and your own drill and you can completely assemble your own rifle without any registration or serial number. At least according to federal law, some states may require you to register after you have built it, but my guess is if you took the case to the supreme court you would be declared innocent according to federal law.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: dreamachine] 2
#26383909 - 12/15/19 06:47 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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They should issue police 80% lowers and let them keep little drill presses in their squad car if they need to fully assemble.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: mycosis]
#26383917 - 12/15/19 06:50 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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A lot of politicalization exists. I read a study that said a cop is more likely to be struck by lightening on the job than injured mortally.
The media will never soon protray that fact.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Morel Guy]
#26384138 - 12/15/19 08:56 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Honestly, I hate to say it, but the above few posts are why I support cops having rifles in their cars, and to an extent, I understand/support cops shooting first and asking question later.
It's shitty, but it is the reality. You don't know if dude is about to blow you away, so shoot first.
I also support muggers committing shootings instead of muggings, for the same reason. You'd be a dumbass to flash a gun and take their wallet. You'll get shot that way. Walk up behind them, blow their head off, and take their wallet.
In US society, shoot first, ask questions later. Better to be judged by 12 than be carried by 6. Lawman or criminal. Blow their heads off.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: mycosis]
#26384401 - 12/16/19 02:07 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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mycosis said: No. They had Federal brass case 9mm FMJ boxes of 200 marked down to $14. That is 7¢ a round. Can't beat that anywhere online.
They're clearing out. Whatever they have left by their deadline they're donating to the Police Department.
Oh, well shit, then. Yeah.
As far as I know, that's not happening here in TN. I'd be all over it if it were, and I knew about it.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: dreamachine]
#26384408 - 12/16/19 02:14 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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dreamachine said: Correct. So long as the lower is at max 80% completed it is not considered a firearm and isn't require by federal law to be registered. All one has to do is drill out the 80% lower with the jigs that they provide and your own drill and you can completely assemble your own rifle without any registration or serial number. At least according to federal law, some states may require you to register after you have built it, but my guess is if you took the case to the supreme court you would be declared innocent according to federal law.
If I understand the law correctly, that is legal, but without a serial number, there is no way to transfer it legally, even if you die and someone inherits your entire estate, they can't legally own it. At least not the part of the gun that is legally the gun part, anyway.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#26384607 - 12/16/19 07:41 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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dreamachine said: Correct. So long as the lower is at max 80% completed it is not considered a firearm and isn't require by federal law to be registered. All one has to do is drill out the 80% lower with the jigs that they provide and your own drill and you can completely assemble your own rifle without any registration or serial number. At least according to federal law, some states may require you to register after you have built it, but my guess is if you took the case to the supreme court you would be declared innocent according to federal law.
If I understand the law correctly, that is legal, but without a serial number, there is no way to transfer it legally, even if you die and someone inherits your entire estate, they can't legally own it. At least not the part of the gun that is legally the gun part, anyway.
In my state no one from the government comes to see how "legal" the inheritors are, likewise if it is unregistered it's pretty unlikely you would register it. Just say you built it and you're good to go.
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Re: Would people give their guns to Trump? [Re: Zyiadem] 1
#26384732 - 12/16/19 09:16 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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dreamachine said: Correct. So long as the lower is at max 80% completed it is not considered a firearm and isn't require by federal law to be registered. All one has to do is drill out the 80% lower with the jigs that they provide and your own drill and you can completely assemble your own rifle without any registration or serial number. At least according to federal law, some states may require you to register after you have built it, but my guess is if you took the case to the supreme court you would be declared innocent according to federal law.
If I understand the law correctly, that is legal, but without a serial number, there is no way to transfer it legally, even if you die and someone inherits your entire estate, they can't legally own it. At least not the part of the gun that is legally the gun part, anyway.
In my state no one from the government comes to see how "legal" the inheritors are, likewise if it is unregistered it's pretty unlikely you would register it. Just say you built it and you're good to go.
If you buy an 80% completion and you didn't use your name, any cards with your name or your address nobody would even know you had it. The person that gets it next nobody would know either.
I don't even see a lower receiver in that pic. could have it shipped anywhere.
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#26384807 - 12/16/19 10:04 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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mycosis said: No. They had Federal brass case 9mm FMJ boxes of 200 marked down to $14. That is 7¢ a round. Can't beat that anywhere online.
They're clearing out. Whatever they have left by their deadline they're donating to the Police Department.
Oh, well shit, then. Yeah.
As far as I know, that's not happening here in TN. I'd be all over it if it were, and I knew about it.
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