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My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs 6
#26370272 - 12/09/19 06:21 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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So after trying out this "DS 3.0" crystal on friday and being totally underwhelmed, i decided to give my Konffeti gels a wirl. These fuckers are so strong. must have been atleast 150ug(told to me as 200ug oer gel, but i am usually skeptical so i took 2 anyway) and i stared coming up in 20 minutes. I began to have one of the most mindfucking trips of my life. The visuals were of that of great potent clean LSD. rainbow swirling patterns, different cosmic dimensional visualizations wanting to break into visions, and the good LSD experience we have known and loved. But it just kept getting more mindfuckery until i find myself evolving at actual speed, at the brink of going insane, not being able to use my brain as the noise of south park literally read my persona like a book. it broke me down with every word and i started to get real hot and sweaty, not being abke to sit still and starting to lose it. i was going to get my wife on multiple occasions, thank god i didnt, but i felt like i literally broke my brain. Now this happened last time but i took an edible with the L but this time was actually worse. it hit the point where i was just existing trying to not run around to try to cool my body off as it started overheating. i had to take my chain off, most of my clothes and had to even pace around as i couldnt control myself. From past experience, this is right on the verge of freakout time where ill need a shot of anti-psychotics to be restrained. It wasnt looking good. I tried so hard to ride it out, just staring into nothingness while having trying to just hold on to whatever i could, mentally, which was nothing because now i am overheating and trying to survive at this time. This will make almost anyone give in, so i did, because i am a pussy. I took a 2mg clonapin. i eventually could think again and everything was restored. but holy fuck..just a reminder that we truly are not in control and it can take you away like nothing. anyway, these things are crazy good and cant wait to experience again, probably at the same dose because i just never seem to learn.
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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#26370402 - 12/09/19 08:11 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's why I never mess with higher doses of LSD, at least mushrooms the worst of it lasts for just a couple hours. With LSD you could be in the trenches for like 8 hours straight... I don't have the energy or the mental stability for that.
Sounds like the good parts were pretty awesome though
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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: feevers] 1
#26370417 - 12/09/19 08:24 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bill, I had a similar experience with Ayahuasca this past summer-- it was one of the most difficult I've ever gone through.
All concept of past and future collapsed into an infinite state of immediacy-- I existed as the crest of a wave, locked into the bleeding edge of awareness, trapped inside my skull--watching--without any capacity to put it onto any kind of context or perspective.
I couldn't function outside of the moment-- I couldn't operate my computer to restart my music, which is always a form of lifeline for me-- I just had to suffer through it for hours alone.
I shouldn't have taken it that day, as I was already pretty tired from brewing it all day, and was 50/50 on waiting until I was rested for the following night-- I chose unwisely. Heavy lessons learned in that one brother-- and for you, too I suspect.
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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: coAsTal]
#26370443 - 12/09/19 08:38 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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coAsTal said: Bill, I had a similar experience with Ayahuasca this past summer-- it was one of the most difficult I've ever gone through.
All concept of past and future collapsed into an infinite state of immediacy-- I existed as the crest of a wave, locked into the bleeding edge of awareness, trapped inside my skull--watching--without any capacity to put it onto any kind of context or perspective.
I couldn't function outside of the moment-- I couldn't operate my computer to restart my music, which is always a form of lifeline for me-- I just had to suffer through it for hours alone.
I shouldn't have taken it that day, as I was already pretty tired from brewing it all day, and was 50/50 on waiting until I was rested for the following night-- I chose unwisely. Heavy lessons learned in that one brother-- and for you, too I suspect.

Heavy lessons is right brother. You explained perfectly. "Locked into the bleeding edge of awareness" is so true. Where your sense of self doesn't exist and every piece of awareness is so on the surface you can only take your clothes off and skirm and squeel like the pig I am. I was an animal trapped into a lower state and didn't know if I could come back. My heart was racing, I was sweating and I was just moving around to keep myself from running down the street to try to run off this state of immediate trapped state I was in. The ultimate mind fuck. My worst trip was when I had to rock it out I'm the fetal, I couldn't do that if I wanted to because I couldn't stop skirming. I was in it's control. It decided if I was going to go nuts or keep it together. I had no control. If I didn't take the clonapin who knows what would have happened. I think I'm starting to get too old for this.
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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: Bill_Oreilly] 3
#26370462 - 12/09/19 08:50 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, we're definitely on the same page there.
It's definitely not the same in your 40's as it was in your 20's, that's for sure. I think maybe it's partly because the wonder is diminished with familiarity, and as we get older we look to psychedelics as tools more than as fun, new experiences. Imagine "wide-eyed youthful awe" vs. "grizzled psychonaut".
Like the difference between riding in a car as a child, a state of pure fun where you don't have to worry about anything like tire pressure, brakes, or keeping petrol in the tank vs being a racecar driver, trying to plan out and navigate the turns, aware of all the crap on the road that must be avoided, the wear on the parts, and all that. We go into it with different expectations, and are aware of different things... I can say with certainty that tripping is still an overwhelmingly valuable experience for me-- but it's not on the same plane that it was when I was young--
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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: coAsTal] 1
#26370554 - 12/09/19 09:39 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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You have a great sense of understanding and perspective. Great stuff man. Good to know someone knows it feels. I think mushrooms are a better option because I feel like my brain can't get locked in easy as it does on LSD because LSD in highdoses lasts so long and there's not immersive visions to distract you that you one bad choice away from causing a scene. If that makes sense.
Its like every second was a flatline of fully immersed reasons why I have no control and never had control. Its like I wanted to just give up and say YOU WIN YOU WIN PLEASE LET ME GO NOW" but It didn't/couldn't. I was sticking the decoded NOW fully at the mercy of my mind.
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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: Bill_Oreilly] 4
#26370584 - 12/09/19 09:57 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Life is a long story with a dawn and a horizon-- where we stand is important, but it is so much more important to remember that you have places to go-- that you must also decide what to do NEXT. You can not survive by allowing yourself to be locked into the quicksand of this moment, and it is the gift of our life that we can travel to any place we choose, with those we love, as the billions that looked upon our moon before us did before they took their journey to some place we have yet to see
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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: coAsTal] 1
#26370636 - 12/09/19 10:26 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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ha those "konfetti" look awesome. better than the really good green gels?
the blues are nice and mellow
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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: Bill_Oreilly] 1
#26370690 - 12/09/19 10:55 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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You knew they could possibly be strong stuff.. so why didn't you just test one to get a feel for them? I would have taken two also, so lol. 300mics and up is heavy territorry for sure.. I don't want to accidently end up beeing in that state of mind.
Makes me want to drop some acid right now.
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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: Pandemoon] 2
#26371717 - 12/09/19 07:05 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks a bunch for sharing guys. 
Always good to hear solid trip reports that resonate so.
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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: Northerner] 2
#26371786 - 12/09/19 07:45 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Jeez, Bill, Jeez, coAsTal...glad you two came out the other side OK. It's accounts like these that help keep my deep respect for the power of these two substances (LSD and Aya) fresh and foremost in my mind.
Good job, both of you navigating incredibly difficult times.
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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: Nature Boy]
#26371794 - 12/09/19 07:48 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not to hijack Bill's thread NB, but this a big reason I so much prefer smoking DMT with oral harmalas-- FAR easier to regulate and control the experience!
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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: coAsTal]
#26371834 - 12/09/19 08:14 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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coAsTal said: I couldn't function outside of the moment-- I couldn't operate my computer to restart my music, which is always a form of lifeline for me-- I just had to suffer through it for hours alone.
This is a big reason why my preferred method of tripping now is alone in my bed, with a pre-selected 10 hour playlist of music playing on a device that I don't have to worry about. Preferably on headphones, which make the music drown out any outside world noise.
I just had a pretty heavy mushroom trip this past weekend, and it involved a lot of the swirling rainbow colors beaming down a tunnel into me, and light melting into my room, turning into totem animals. Lots of flashing to various thoughts/memories/emotions and personal themes... towards the height of the peak I kind of saw myself being torn into pieces floating in a body of liquid.
I was also very, very sweaty like Bill mentioned - a normal effect for me when having a session like this.
If I hadn't began this trip laying in my bed, with my music to help me find my focus, I would have been totally lost and probably having a very bad time trying to hold on and just being overwhelmed by it all. I was prepared to go into this though with set intentions and set myself up to let it all flow.
What sucks tho, is drinking all that dang tea and having to get up to piss a few times while its hitting hard 
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coAsTal said: It's definitely not the same in your 40's as it was in your 20's, that's for sure. I think maybe it's partly because the wonder is diminished with familiarity, and as we get older we look to psychedelics as tools more than as fun, new experiences. Imagine "wide-eyed youthful awe" vs. "grizzled psychonaut".
We go into it with different expectations, and are aware of different things... I can say with certainty that tripping is still an overwhelmingly valuable experience for me-- but it's not on the same plane that it was when I was young--
Totally agree & I posted something very similar recently regarding favorite activities while tripping. I don't know if I'll ever be taking psychedelics at public events and whatnot like I did when I was younger. Its just a totally different thing to me now, and my respect for the experience has changed quite a lot.
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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: coAsTal]
#26371841 - 12/09/19 08:19 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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coAsTal said: Not to hijack Bill's thread NB, but this a big reason I so much prefer smoking DMT with oral harmalas-- FAR easier to regulate and control the experience!
So you think smoking DMT with oral harmalas is better than taking the DMT orally? I've just gotten my order of rue seeds in so I can make my first batch of harmala extract and I was planning on taking DMT orally with it. I had read a lot that oral DMT is a gentler/smoother experience with less stress than smoking... you don't agree with that?
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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: pixelpopper] 2
#26372017 - 12/09/19 10:40 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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You know what's funny-- I'm as we speak coasting down from a wonderful evening with traditional Aya-- 60g Red vine with 45g Chacruna 
One thing I would tell the entire world is that I love these plants-- wholly and completely-- as they are. I would never knock one form down compared to another. They are all profound gifts, and every color they come in is beautiful.
Oral leaf is a different experience from smoking-- it is certainly more 'even' in a way than vaping DMT-- but what I love so much about smoking is that you reach a state of what I can only term "controlled saturation" where the DMT becomes so enmeshed with your being when coupled with the harmalas that you plateau so high up that you can't tell the difference between heaven and earth.
I caution that it's taken me years of practice to find the way it works for me-- but there's nothing like it-- and I wouldn't trade it for any other experience I've had, save for molly perhaps-- which is the very definition of ecstasy for a reason. But I have touched that ecstatic place with rue harmalas and DMT many, many times-- it's worth the slow ramp up to get there-- my method is simple-- start with a little (after 45 minutes or so for your harmalas to take efect), maybe 15mg-ish, then a few songs later a little heavier dose, and repeat until you're there. Then you just keep bumping to keep yourself where you want to be for several hours.
It's everything psychedelics can be to me.
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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: coAsTal]
#26372022 - 12/09/19 10:45 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sounds like a great method, probably what I will go with when I decide to see it all the way through. That's basically how I've been smoking DMT so far, but I haven't continued smoking enough to break into other worlds, just enough to get in the DMT headspace & stay there for a bit.
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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: pixelpopper]
#26372027 - 12/09/19 10:48 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's what this is-- just as you described-- but I can't put into words how enhanced the experience is with harmalas in your system-- it becomes a whole-cloth different animal.
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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: coAsTal]
#26372044 - 12/09/19 11:15 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ahh, I see I may have gotten a small taste of it recently when I brewed a caapi tea prior to smoking. Wasn't a super strong tea, but it was enough to produce noticeable effects for me - I'd been experimenting with different strengths of caapi tea for about a week prior. Definitely got into a stronger headspace with some noticeable effects like everything being kind of HD - visually and audibly, and at one point it was like time slowed down to a crawl for a brief moment. I was also meditating while smoking, so that probably helped kick it up.
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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: coAsTal]
#26372363 - 12/10/19 05:03 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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coAsTal said: Not to hijack Bill's thread NB, but this a big reason I so much prefer smoking DMT with oral harmalas-- FAR easier to regulate and control the experience!
I hope to dip my toe into that very experience when my wife leaves town after Christmas. Been thinking about it every day since you wrote it up for me in a prior thread.
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Re: My experience with 2 "Konfetti" gel tabs [Re: SnowDaze]
#26372536 - 12/10/19 07:21 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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SnowDaze said: ha those "konfetti" look awesome. better than the really good green gels?
the blues are nice and mellow
They are about equal in cleanliness but I think the konfetti gels are dosed higher. I'm sure of it. LSD has never done that to me. I felt so helpless. It was about to overflow into insanity I couldn't stop myself from just moving and everything in me wanted to just start running outside with little clothes on because I was just so hot and uncomfortable. It was very scary. But my God that is good L.
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Edited by Bill_Oreilly (12/10/19 07:31 AM)
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