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DMT visual replay on demand.
#26370369 - 12/09/19 07:47 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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So I was laying in bed this afternoon just having a bit of a chill after a pretty hard day when I spotted a light pipe in my minds eye. Curious, I focused on it and saw I could perceptually zoom down it. I realised it was a lot like DMT, so I then started pushing with my mind to make more DMT like shapes and was surprised I could make pretty vivid and seemingly autonomous shapes and objects that would fractalize, swirl and morph. The clarity and the strength of actual DMT wasn't there, but it's the first time I ever did that and I haven't had any practise making hypersoup and in my head before.
Anyone else ever experience this?
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Re: DMT visual replay on demand. [Re: Northerner]
#26371028 - 12/09/19 02:19 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Reading your post made me recall when, as a nipper, I used to apply pressure to my eyelids with my fingers to induce trippy bursts of colour and kaleidescopes and, now I think about it, morphing fractals and such (Just tried it again now, still works)
I've never been able to do it awake, though, pretty cool!
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Re: DMT visual replay on demand. [Re: Shroomus]
#26371149 - 12/09/19 03:22 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sorta.
There was a thread awhile back about strange trippiness without drugs awhile back.
I have had it where, laying in bed and seeing stuff. Not hypnagogic stuff, I know that stuff and it’s fun to play with, but it is usually blobs and floaty smears, maybe some pulses etc... not these full on rainbow colored geometric patterns that sometimes have musical sound tracks. Extremely similar to what it looks like when laying down after a trip to sleep. But without the mindset or body feels. And not on drugs.
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Re: DMT visual replay on demand. [Re: Shr00mEater]
#26371483 - 12/09/19 05:24 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Every night before I go to sleep I'll do it. It's really easy to do I find. Can only do it with eyes closed though. I just put my mind on seeing what I want to see and then it goes from there. I'll make it start myself but once it starts I don't concentrate on which way things go or turn into.
Watch out for possible headaches as well. My head starts hurting a bit if I do it for too long. I've never tried meditating, but I have read that headaches can be a symptom of meditation. Could be a bit similar but just laying down maybe.
Edited by Indicabuds420 (12/09/19 08:08 PM)
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Is that after using DMT recently indicabuds?
I noticed after I use my dreams are fucking wild and DMTesque for at least 2 weeks afterwards.
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Re: DMT visual replay on demand. [Re: Northerner]
#26372340 - 12/10/19 04:37 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Any time northerner bud, if I've done DMT or not it doesn't make a difference tbh. My dreams are very different after DMT as well, for a good week at least. I smoke a lot of weed as well which suppresses dreams, but still dream a lot though. I had sleep paralysis about 10 days ago now upon waking up. I saw a black door and a black shadow (or a demon so they say lol) standing in front of it looking straight at me. This lasted about 2 minutes. Didn't scare me though, I knew what was happening and when you've done DMT then these things you see on sleep paralysis are nothing. I was really tired so that would've played a part in triggering it no doubt.
Usually when I do DMT I will do 2/3 breakthroughs in one night then leave it a while. I haven't done it for over a month and won't for a while now either.
I'm going to be making some changa for next time.
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Awesome on the changa. 
That's mad stuff with the dreams and sleep paralysis. Did you get intense dream and visualisation phenomenon before you ever tried DMT?
I'm super interested to hear from anyone who has had DMTesque visuals while sober. It's such an impossible thing to imagine unless you've seen it before, and even then it can be super illusive to try and remember let alone re-exeperience sober. Another friend of mine says he has smoked DMT in a dream and tripped hard. That just blows my mind.
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Re: DMT visual replay on demand. [Re: Northerner]
#26372362 - 12/10/19 05:02 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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There’s supposed to be some nonsense about being able to comprehend a DMT trip because you heard about one, but you can’t just think about it. People think their ability to form images in their head varies, like some sober person has the mindpower to imagine psychedelic scenarios, but no. Even if you had a trip before that doesn’t make you better or worse at doing it. People don’t understand. That’s more so vampirism, plus the facetiousness to think that’s how it works. The only way to do it right is to experience it, not try to empathize with someone else’s experience, although it can get you on the right start.
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Re: DMT visual replay on demand. [Re: Blabble40] 1
#26372390 - 12/10/19 05:40 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tbh I never even bothered trying to visualise anything like such before DMT. It's nothing like a DMT breaktrough, it's mostly just shapes moving and forming into each other making other shapes. I don't think it's anything to do with that I've smoked DMT. So they say is it takes a lot of practice meditating before you can make stuff like that appear during meditation. I've never got into meditating though.
I do have temporal lobe epilepsy and if you google the symptoms you'll see that it causes hallucinations, so maybe that makes it easier for it to happen idk. Apparently I would be very gifted in a shamans eyes lol. Van Gogh had it and hallucinated lots and even drank absinthe to trigger seizures, which he used to inspire his paintings. It's theorised prophet Muhammad had it too and it sure sounds like he could have done. Crazy stuff, I could go on forever about this it's really fascinating.
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That's curious you mention the epilepsy too. There's a thread on here somewhere where I described a fucked up horror breakthrough and a guy came along saying he'd never taken DMT but experienced the same thing from a seizure. At the time I was unconvinced because the dude wasn't very shroomy, bit pushy and stuff. Maybe there's more here than meets the minds eye.
It's said as well that some people don't have the ability to visualise, which I've also been very skeptical about, but assuming that is true we could extrapolate that some people have visuisation super powers. Perhaps even enough to visualise very convincing psychedelic objects while sober. Perhaps not to the ability of Jason Padget, maybe you really need a good smack around the head for that, but perhaps so as well. The extremes of what people consider normal for what they visualise could be enormous, it just hasn't really been a topic of conversation much due to the intangibility of the topic.
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Re: DMT visual replay on demand. [Re: Northerner]
#26373992 - 12/10/19 09:11 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Northerner said: That's curious you mention the epilepsy too. There's a thread on here somewhere where I described a fucked up horror breakthrough and a guy came along saying he'd never taken DMT but experienced the same thing from a seizure. At the time I was unconvinced because the dude wasn't very shroomy, bit pushy and stuff. Maybe there's more here than meets the minds eye.
It's said as well that some people don't have the ability to visualise, which I've also been very skeptical about, but assuming that is true we could extrapolate that some people have visuisation super powers. Perhaps even enough to visualise very convincing psychedelic objects while sober. Perhaps not to the ability of Jason Padget, maybe you really need a good smack around the head for that, but perhaps so as well. The extremes of what people consider normal for what they visualise could be enormous, it just hasn't really been a topic of conversation much due to the intangibility of the topic.
I think you may like this vid mate about hallucinations going by your perspective on this stuff. Really good watch and not one mention of drugs either.
The parts of the brain that psychedelics wake up can be awakened without psychedelics given the circumstances imo. Could maybe be why some people think they've been abducted by aliens but really it could be an abnormal high amount of DMT going through their heads or something else going on.
I've seen a bit about people unable to visualise even on psychedelics. Maybe the part of the brain that sees things beyond the eyes just refuses to do anything no matter what. If some parts of some other peoples brains don't work as evident just by things like speech and memory then the part of the brain that sees beyond the eyes might just not work in them people who can't visualise.
I had a benign tumour removed from the right temporal lobe when I were 16. That's what's gave me the epilepsy but it's under good control. Coming out of a grand-mal seizure ime feels a lot like coming out of a DMT trip. In the way of feeling like you've left this reality and come back when it's over. Not saying they're related at all though.
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Prior to going to sleep I always listen to some ambient music. Really seems to induce almost a trip like state. Espically while tired.
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If I reach a deep enough meditation my eyes start to shake like REM sleep would do and I begin to feel verryy strange. When I bring myself out of the meditation for about 5 minutes I feel really fuckin weird, like a dmt like weird. It's awesome and proves to me that we have the ability to regulate our own personal dmt stores.
Learn on brother!
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that does make me wonder if it's possible for dmt to be produced/released by your body at a rate that would make you trip. isn't it broken down rather quickly? could the body keep producing it fast enough to say, induce an hours long trip without an inhibitor?
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